Highest quality kr808 manufacturer?

[Adub]

I"m trying to figure out who makes (not sells) the highest quality kr batteries -- quality

meaning: battery longevity, charging uniformity, consistent output, etc. I've done a ton of

board-reading to no avail!

I know Kanger made the original but with all the "copy-catting" going on I'm sure the other

companies have all put a clone on the market as well. So who makes the dependable unit?
I'm hoping to figure this out and then place a small bulk order directly from China to save

some $$$. These units are for a group of people who aren't really in a financial position

to make several purchases to find one that works so I want them to be the absolute best!

Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

 

[intriqken]

Wow
My question too
I love my 808 and would love to find a super quality battery for it,
If you find something and put together a mass order please let me know,,,,I'm a buyer for sure

 

[Onehempcat]

I am not sure if "highest quality" and "China" go in the same post. IDK. I will just say that and keep silent on that.

I had battery issues with Bloog, but it seems fixed (they got me a new set of batteries). I am on hour 3 of one battery life. And let me tell ya, i am vaping the vcrap out of this thing. LMAO APPPPPLE
I am vaping so much, that I spit out the extra into a carto to vape it. HA HA HA HA HA HA H Kidddddding

All in all, I think you get what you pay for vape-wise. Bloog is a bit high end priced.

 

[Adub]

So are you happy with your Bloog? How would you compare it to a regular kr or 510 carto setup?

 

[Onehempcat]

I cannot compare unfortunately. This is my first setup and yeah, I love it very much!!!!!

 

[MichelleDen]

I have Kanger, Smoore and Boge stuff..... Cant tell you witch manu the bloog is, cus they wont say. Also im on low nic, witch means a carto on 3 ohm, wont give me a TH, but maybe if your on 24mg, you will like a high ohm.

Smoore:
Batts soundactivate and hold up less than a month in my hands. They need to be freshly charged all the time. Never vaped them dry, cus performance got to bad
Cartos are hit and miss, and require at least 3,7 volt to perform ok. Dont know ohm
pcc is awsome

Boge:
batts i havent tried but have been told they are crap and noone sells em.
cartos...hit n miss, and for the kr8 there is to my knogledge 2,8 and 3 ohm, neither is suffeciant under 4 volt.

Kanger:
Batts are awsome, but need a pause once in a while or they get to hard to draw on. On the other hand they put out 4,2 volt the first couple of minutes, and then drop to the 3,7. They stay there until minutes before they are dead.. THey can handle a 2,8 carto, but its a cooler vape..
cartos are great if you get the horisontal coil ones. THey are the thing to get. When you look down the tube of carto, you can see no metal wire on the wick. Means its a horiz.
pcc's i have two of now and they are ok

Bloog/nhaler
Batts go a tiny bit lower in volt, witch means they cannot handle high ohm cartos very well... on the other hand they never need brakes, you can suck that thing dry without any probs. a reg kanger batt will however almost chock you in performance, if you go from bloog to kanger and back.. Bloog batts need a kickass carto to perform well.
cartos have some issues they are trying to iron out right now, but they have the same awsome tech inside as the horiz kangers..
pcc well mine is a bit dodgy, as are batts, but have been promised a new set... and that is awsome cs..

So that was my longwinded answer.. Cant say witch is best quality, it all has a cheap feel to it..
All i can say is I'd stay away from smoore and boge, unless you want a wery cool vape with little to no vapor when you blow out. VG helps with that but then you deffo wont get a TH..

 

[mOjO_420]

Just a quick note to say I think MichelleDen is dead on in her analysis. Well, I haven't tried Boge and Smoore (or didn't know I was when I did, never bothered to check mfg on some cartos i've had). But I have several generic Kanger batts and just got a bloog maxx fusion batt in the mail. And I've tried, V4L's coolcarts (3.4ohm?) & WOWs (2.9ohm) and am now on nHaler's new cartos ~(2.6ohm) which are the bloog style horiz. coil. I'm kind of new to vaping (5 months) but I've read a lot and learned a lot. I think the combo of carto and batt is critical. As she said, the Kanger's are great batts and definitely produce a much higher voltage on a fresh charge, so much so that a lower ohm carto while producing a powerful hit can burn and produce a nasty taste. Sorry I don't know much about the mfg's behind all this stuff but just wanted to agree with Michelle and elaborate a bit.

 

[Adub]

Hey, that wasn't a long-winded answer; it was actually a lot of good info -- the kind of info that is very helpful!

 

[Adub]

So if you put the kanger carto/batt combo up against the bloog, who wins?

 

[mOjO_420]

thats a bit subjective... But i'm really liking these horizontal coil cartos. I'd just have to say that they come with a caveat when paired with traditional Kanger batts when purchased in the lower ohms. The new tech batts seem to be more regulated and produce a consistent albeit lower voltage and have a bit higher mah rating. Certainly if your cost conscious the traditional kanger batts are your best value. You could definitely find them cheap in a quantity order. You could pair those with horiz. coil cartos but most i've seen are low ohms and may be too strong and burn on a fresh batt. I did see some higher ohm horiz. coil cartos somewhere but don't have time to look em up at the moment. Safe bet if you go with the Kanger batts and horiz. coils is to try and stay above 2.8ohm. Problem with cartos is that they can vary greatly as manufactured. While they might say 2.6 or whatever on the package, they dont test them all, some will come off the line at 2.2 and others 2.8. The 2.6 number is more of the average or target ohm rating.

 

[MichelleDen]

thats a bit subjective... But i'm really liking these horizontal coil cartos. I'd just have to say that they come with a caveat when paired with traditional Kanger batts when purchased in the lower ohms. The new tech batts seem to be more regulated and produce a consistent albeit lower voltage and have a bit higher mah rating. Certainly if your cost conscious the traditional kanger batts are your best value. You could definitely find them cheap in a quantity order. You could pair those with horiz. coil cartos but most i've seen are low ohms and may be too strong and burn on a fresh batt. I did see some higher ohm horiz. coil cartos somewhere but don't have time to look em up at the moment. Safe bet if you go with the Kanger batts and horiz. coils is to try and stay above 2.8ohm. Problem with cartos is that they can vary greatly as manufactured. While they might say 2.6 or whatever on the package, they dont test them all, some will come off the line at 2.2 and others 2.8. The 2.6 number is more of the average or target ohm rating.

STOP hold, wait a minute..... Be very careful when you tell what works with what, when you havent tried it. First you cant choose ohm on the kangers. they are what they are.

Second, you do NOT have to stay over 2,8 ohm on a kanger batt.. Its only the bloog cartos that burn there..And sometimes low ohm boges, if they are not soaked properly. The original horizcarto from kanger works beautifully on their batts. I dont know what bloogs manu did to them but it wasnt for the better.... ie its just the blooghoriz that go souer on a kanger batt... Ohms do vary though.. on all brands..

The top combo as of now, performancewise is the kangerhoriz on a fresh kanger batt. That they need brakes, i deal with by using 2 batts back n forth( i chainvape) If you are a take it out, puff a bit, then put it away, kinda person, they will get the brakes they need. Albeit they are airyer than MF batt, they still hold up IMO Also even if your carto is old you still get a good th and performance on the kanger batt. The MF's only go good with newish cartos.. cant use em for as long, before performance gets to boring. Well thats how it is with my juice and use anyway...

Its easy to get things mixed an info is spreading out all over the place.. some state opinions out of what they THINK they have.. Came across a fellow that said his horiz kangers was this and that.. Turned out he acually had the old vertical kangers, witch in no way can be compared to the new ones.. So its very easy to get misinformed here...

 

[mOjO_420]

Okay... point taken. I may be jumping to conclusions based on too limited a sampling. And I'll yield to your experience but in a bulk order of lower ohm cartos they would be likely to get some which are out of spec on the lower end, let's say 10%. If I were bulk ordering I certainly wouldn't want 10% to be nasty tasting. Hence it would be wise to err on the safe side wouldn't it?

That being said, I don't know the manufacturers as well as you do. Who is selling the Kanger horizontals? Who makes the NHaler horizontals? because I have been getting my horizontals from there and noticed about 10% of them burn and indeed it is worse on my generic Kanger batts because (as you pointed out) the higher voltage off of a fresh charge. The burn is not as bad on the bloog batt but still present enough that I don't use those cartos. Granted I've not had a big enough sampling yet. Maybe it's actually 1 in a hundred...? That would be really optimistic thinking though. I'm determined to at least sample most everything KR808 that's out there with the exception of jumbo cartos and mega batts. I don't want anything that won't fit in my PCC. ;-) So can you point me to some vendors selling horizontal Kanger cartos? or are the NHaler cartos Kanger?

 

[MichelleDen]

Nhales are the same as Bloogs... but if we are to bo totally shure, you can take one apart and look at the O ring in the batt end.. Is it long, clear silicone? Bloog/Nhaler. Or is it short solid white? Original Kanger.
They wont state manufacturer. Under claim that its the manu that doesnt wanna be known..

As to your first q about the ohm.. No. not with the kangers You dont have to think about it. Ive used over 60 of them and with all sorts of juices and blends, and they only produce an off taste when they are to dry.. fill it and your going again. Even on fresh charged batt... It is whatever BLoogs manu did to their types that is causing the problem.

The kangers have been out of stock for months.... I found them at Liberty Flights.co.uk. They say Kanger is a pest to deal with but several months? I think they are cutting it out.... They think boges are "the pick of the bunch"....

 

[Robolsson]

Nhales are the same as Bloogs... but if we are to bo totally shure, you can take one apart and look at the O ring in the batt end.. Is it long, clear silicone? Bloog/Nhaler. Or is it short solid white? Original Kanger.
They wont state manufacturer. Under claim that its the manu that doesnt wanna be known..

As to your first q about the ohm.. No. You dont have to think about it. Ive used over 60 of them and with all sorts of juices and blends, and they only produce an off taste when they are to dry.. fill it and your going again. Even on fresh charged batt... It is whatever BLoogs manu did to their types that is causing the problem.

The kangers have been out of stock for months.... I found them at Liberty Flights.co.uk. They say Kanger is a pest to deal with but several months? I think they are cutting it out.... They think boges are "the pick of the bunch"....

I just recently bought a bloog batt/carts and they seem to be out of blanks, would you recommend something like nhalers blank kr808d mega cartomizers as a replacement? I have a bunch of pre-filled bloog carts that work very well but I got some juices in and i'd like to get some blanks so I can try em out.

 

[Onehempcat]

I wanna know the answer to that as well. I am int he same situation as you. My order has still not arrived, of first blank carto's.

 

[Adub]

More good info -- I appreciate everyone for taking time to respond. So the kanger horizontal coils are really good but everyone is out of them? That's odd...

Did someone say the Bloog cartos are currently having issues with burning? If that's the case I'm definitely leaning towards the Kangers then...

Has anyone tried the newer-style Joye Tech cartos and if so, any positive experiences? How do they stack up against the Kangers?

 

[beachpuff]

Nhalers "drippers" are the exact same horizontal coil as bloogs. Nhaler also carries the larger size horizontal, and they have hard top jumbo kr808 cartos that have the horizontal coil. Ikenvape has jumbo kr808 horizontal coil too, with a soft cap top. VaporsEtc has kr808 TRU's that are also horizontal coil and are the cheapest of the bunch.

It is hard to find the horizontal in stock though.

Vapors Etc.- Parts
Jumbo KR808D-1 Drippers
KR808D-1 Drippers
KR808D-1 JUMBOCARTOMIZERS
http://shop.nhaler.com/KR808D-1-Jumbo-Low-Resistance-Cartomizers-2-Ohm-jumbolr.htm
IKV MEGA KR-808 Cartomizer

 

[Robolsson]

Nhalers "drippers" are the exact same horizontal coil as bloogs. Nhaler also carries the larger size horizontal, and they have hard top jumbo kr808 cartos that have the horizontal coil. Ikenvape has jumbo kr808 horizontal coil too, with a soft cap top. VaporsEtc has kr808 TRU's that are also horizontal coil and are the cheapest of the bunch.

It is hard to find the horizontal in stock though.

Vapors Etc.- Parts
Jumbo KR808D-1 Drippers
KR808D-1 Drippers
KR808D-1 JUMBOCARTOMIZERS
http://shop.nhaler.com/KR808D-1-Jumbo-Low-Resistance-Cartomizers-2-Ohm-jumbolr.htm
IKV MEGA KR-808 Cartomizer

Oh wow, a lot of good links there..now in your opinion are these the top of the line cartomizers on the market currently? I get really good results from these style carto's and i'm very new to vaping so i'm hesitant to change the type of cartomizer.

 

[keyzygirl]

Im guesssing that when Steve Smilin gets his own manufacturing company going for V4L he will turn the tides.It should happen soon.

 

[mOjO_420]

Nhales are the same as Bloogs... but if we are to bo totally shure, you can take one apart and look at the O ring in the batt end.. Is it long, clear silicone? Bloog/Nhaler. Or is it short solid white? Original Kanger.
They wont state manufacturer. Under claim that its the manu that doesnt wanna be known..

As to your first q about the ohm.. No. You dont have to think about it. Ive used over 60 of them and with all sorts of juices and blends, and they only produce an off taste when they are to dry.. fill it and your going again. Even on fresh charged batt... It is whatever BLoogs manu did to their types that is causing the problem.

The kangers have been out of stock for months.... I found them at Liberty Flights.co.uk. They say Kanger is a pest to deal with but several months? I think they are cutting it out.... They think boges are "the pick of the bunch"....

I haven't ordered the bloog cartos they've been out of blanks for months now and the manu issues are scaring me off anyway. Nhaler's are the ones I'm talking about and I know when the carto's dry and what that tastes like and that taste is quite different. Well, anyway, I could go on but don't want to argue with you. Overall I'm happy enough with NHaler's cartos to order more even with getting a few "duds" which I'm still pretty convinced are just out of spec on the low end of the ohms range and causing burning of some material in the carto or my juice or something. Drew even agreed with me that is likely the cause. If you're right that its dryness then the juice must not be getting to the coil well on those then because that filler is definitely saturated. Besides a dry carto has a different kind of nasty taste.

The O-ring on my Nhalers is clear silicone, no need to take it apart, I think I can see it peeking out from behind the post. And, if it matters, I am smoking 100%VG juices and not a wide variety lately so it could very well be my juice but I have no plans in changing my juice to match my equipment... rather the other way around.

Anyway... thanks for the info as always.