Hii :) I have a question about formaldehyde

[alperen]

Hi, I join from Turkey and Firstly i want to say sorry about my english.I will try to tell you my question.

What is important for formaldehde ? Watt or voltage ?
I am going to ask you with a example.
For example we have two coils and first coil is 1 ohm and coils' volume is 6mm^3
second coil is 0,5 ohm and same volume.
These coils works fine same watt. But it calls different voltages. what is the important ? same temperature and watt or voltage?

 

[alperen]

up

 

[Hitmetwice]

Formaldehyde will only occur if the coil is actually "burning"
It would taste so horrible no vaper would actually inhale.
One would notice the hot, harsh vapour and cough.

Start out at very low power level and inch it up slowly every few vapes. If the vapour begins to taste burnt or if it gets too hot for you turn the power lower. Cheers.

 

[alperen]

Formaldehyde will only occur if the coil is actually "burning"
It would taste so horrible no vaper would actually inhale.
One would notice the hot, harsh vapour and cough.

Start out at very low power level and inch it up slowly every few vapes. If the vapour begins to taste burnt or if it gets too hot for you turn the power lower. Cheers.

Thank you for you answer You mean voltage does not matter Temprature is important. For example volt is 9 and coils are like 250 celcius its ok right?

 

[sofarsogood]

Thank you for you answer You mean voltage does not matter Temprature is important. For example volt is 9 and coils are like 250 celcius its ok right?

Describe the devices you are using. What mod? What atomizer? What is the resistance of the coil, the ohm value?

 

[alperen]

Describe the devices you are using. What mod? What atomizer? What is the resistance of the coil, the ohm value?

its just a example. I use vtwo mini and vaporesso gemine. I use awg 28 kanthal. 1.20 ohm and 6 volt its good for me.In Turkey people says higher than 4 volt it is dangerous.

 

[David82]

em... formaldehyde used also in ecigs for smoking??

 

[djsvapour]

In Turkey people says higher than 4 volt it is dangerous.

That is probably because a time ago (2-3 years), people abused atomizers to produce formaldehyde when they applied 4 volts or more to an early-technology atomizer (CE4, for example) and then made up scare stories to discredit e-cigarettes. These experiments, which didn't treat equipment under 'real world' conditions then started a campaign to say e-cigarettes were dangerous.

The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure

We are not abusing our vapourizers to prove e-cigarettes might be dangerous.
When people say things, they usually base them on 'gossip internet rumors' rather than science.

Maybe if you need to apply 6 volts (9v?) to your atomizer , you need to change to a lower resistance coil anyway.

My volts are usually between 3.4 and 4.2.....

Trying to vape at 30 watts with a 1.2ohm coil is not ideal, unless the coil is keeping up with your vaping style. Try a 0.5ohm coil.

 

[Imfallen_Angel]

em... formaldehyde used also in ecigs for smoking??

Formaldehyde is NOT used... it gets created by overheating to an extreme degree which causes a chemical reaction between the liquid and metal, causing it to form (from the alcohols of the VG/PC breaking down and recombining).

BUT THAT SAID, the lab "test" that started the propaganda about it, are the same that heated things to an insane level and were causing everything to burn, easily dozens of times hotter than what anyone would be able to vape.

You'd pretty much have to do it on purpose, and before you'd be able to inhale any sort of amount of it, your tank would most certainly shatter first.

Formaldehyde is also a by-product of your breathing too, so even not vaping, you'll exhale a minute amount of it.

Vaping Emits Less Formaldehyde than Previously Thought
Experts Debunk Formaldehyde Risk in E-Cigs and E-liquid.
The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure

Note that you are breathing in a huge amount of formaldehyde from glues, and just about any manufactures product (furniture, car plastics, etc.) compared to the odds of getting any from vaping.

 

[David82]

Yeah, i've guessed, know about it.. but it was little unclear in connection to vaping. Sorry for misunderstood)

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[skoony]

If formaldehyde were an issue we would all be dead. We have been breathing in and out the formaldehyde
produced by our own bodies all our lives.
Regards
mike

 

[Two_Bears]

Formaldehyde will only occur if the coil is actually "burning"
It would taste so horrible no vaper would actually inhale.
One would notice the hot, harsh vapour and cough.

Start out at very low power level and inch it up slowly every few vapes. If the vapour begins to taste burnt or if it gets too hot for you turn the power lower. Cheers.

Right on the money!

You need very high temps to create formaldehyde.

 

[Two_Bears]

Formaldehyde is NOT used... it gets created by overheating to an extreme degree which causes a chemical reaction between the liquid and metal, causing it to form (from the alcohols of the VG/PC breaking down and recombining).

BUT THAT SAID, the lab "test" that started the propaganda about it, are the same that heated things to an insane level and were causing everything to burn, easily dozens of times hotter than what anyone would be able to vape.

You'd pretty much have to do it on purpose, and before you'd be able to inhale any sort of amount of it, your tank would most certainly shutter first.

Formaldehyde is also a by-product of your breathing too, so even not vaping, you'll exhale a minute amount of it.

Vaping Emits Less Formaldehyde than Previously Thought
Experts Debunk Formaldehyde Risk in E-Cigs and E-liquid.
The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure

Note that you are breathing in a huge amount of formaldehyde from glues, and just about any manufactures product (furniture, car plastics, etc.) compared to the odds of getting any from vaping.

That was a bunch of pseudo scientists in New York trying to proove that vaping was dangerous for the Government of New York City. They modified a mod to heat tge coil to 1,100 degrees Fahrenheit.

No one Vapes anywhere near that hot.

 

[NealBJr]

Hi, I join from Turkey and Firstly i want to say sorry about my english.I will try to tell you my question.

What is important for formaldehde ? Watt or voltage ?
I am going to ask you with a example.
For example we have two coils and first coil is 1 ohm and coils' volume is 6mm^3
second coil is 0,5 ohm and same volume.
These coils works fine same watt. But it calls different voltages. what is the important ? same temperature and watt or voltage?

Formaldehyde is a bad taste and you do not want formaldehyde. It is made by making your Ecig too hot. There are many ways to make your ecig too hot, and there are no exact numbers to give you since every device is different. Let me explain.

If your coils use a thin wire, and low ohms it does not not take much volts/watts to get to a high temperature. The coils can be made of a thick wire, and high oms, and it will take very high volts/watts just to get warm.

What matters MOST when it comes to ecigs, is the balance of power you give to the coil (how many volts to what ohms and what gauge wire) and how wet the coil is. While I am writing this, I am using 4.6 volts in a .7 ohm two coil 26 gauge kanthal wire (29.2 watts), and the wicks are wet. There is no formaldehyde, since there is no burning. If I use a .7 ohm dual coil using thick 22 gauge wire, even at 4.6 volts, it wouldn't get hot very fast.

It's all about balance of power. A vaper can tell when formaldehyde is created. The vape would be real hot, and it would taste real bad.

 

[alperen]

thank you for your answers in Turkey people are thinking high ohm low watt , low ohm high watt. I think its not true. We should up watt for volume of coils

 

[BrotherBob]

thank you for your answers in Turkey people are thinking high ohm low watt , low ohm high watt. I think its not true. We should up watt for volume of coils

Welcome and glad you joined. Watts and ohms are only part of the story.
When starting your vape at low wattage, I find that the wattage that works for me is usually 1 to 2 watts over the lowest watt setting (where i can barely see the vape cloud on the exhale). Lower watt settings lessen the chance of burning the liquid and generates the best flavor IMO. This formula applies to non sub ohm'g (1.0 ohm is iffy non sub ohm'g--2.0 ohm's here).
After I get my Atty (coil and chamber heat up) going for awhile, I will often times turn the mod down or up a fraction of a watt or so to see if I can taste more flavor. I'm often surprised at how much better tasting the vape can be by adjusting the vape temp/wattage.

In General higher ohm coils/lower wattage (generally MTL) vaping will:
Heat the coil slower, which may produce “less” vapor
Provide A “cooler” tasting vape, can produce more flavor
May use less E-Juice (<$ less money)
Prolong battery life (<$)
Prolong coil life (<$)
Prolong wick life (<$)
May result in less PV maintenance/Issues
Less irritation to non vapers
Aids stealth vaping
May be better in the long run healthwise (<$)