Hmmm... Im lost

[ZomB]

Well I have just purchased my first mech and RDA/RTA. A polished brass nemesis clone, black russian 91 clone and a black zenith v2 clone from a local B&M which leads to my question... So i've been doing research on 18650 batteries for it and it seems to be that sony VTC5 are the bees knees. Well after buying my mech I went to my favorite juice shop (vapeandco) and asked about them and he informed me (very surely I might add) that sony VTC5 batteries have been discontinued! Confirmed by his supplier he says. So I then called this old vape shop, another local B&M and they told me the same thing...So I used some of my black belt google-fu and after tons of research and one pretty convincing video by *pegasaus?* something or other on youtube, who says that SONY themselves have NEVER even made the 18650 vtc5 battery. His research and findings seemed pretty conclusive and I also haven't been able to find any proof that sony, the company, even makes the 18650 vtc5 battery... I also see countless counterfeit vtc5 batteriess and I've read all the fake vs real vtc5 articles and yes there are differences but one thing remains. How do we know that SONY does in fact even make THE vtc5 battery and not some other chinese/japanese company and labeling them as a true sony product. All I want is a SAFE, PROVEN AUTHENTIC battery that I can get in to sub ohm vaping and have decent battery life. Suggestions/comments please? Thank you for taking the time to read my post.

 

[keonee]

Here' a thread on it -

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/593499-no-such-thing-sony-vtc-5-a.html

 

[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here!

Thanks keone for posting that link! You saved me from having to sort through my database to pull all the relevant information on Sony.

 

[AzPlumber]

It is very common in the battery business to slap your own label on a battery made by others. Some of the most well respected brands are this way. This alone does not make it a poor cell. As long as you buy genuine batteries of a quality brand and stay within their continuous amp limit you'll be fine.

 

[ZomB]

Thanks for the link. After reading more articles about this topic it seems this whole sony vtc5 thing is just a dark endless hole and basically sony may or may not have ever produced them and if they did they're not telling people due to non intended personal sales or they stopped making them 6 years ago etc... Im still confused on why my local B&M say they have been discontinued... Have vtc5 batteries from RTD (recently) been proved to be authentic? They are in stock right now on their site. What other batteries are PROVEN performers from RTD for mild sub ohm builds? I hear good and bad about efest purple, whats the deal with those?

 

[Susan~S]

I hear good and bad about efest purple, whats the deal with those?

EFEST
Just an FYI.

If your batteries are the purple Efest 18650 2500mAh 35A batteries -- they are not 35A continuous. They are really rebranded LG18650HE2 2500mAh 20 amp continuous batteries.
Source: Baditudes Blog Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Here is another warning that was posted on ECF regarding another purple Efest battery: Efest 3100mAh battery caution

 

[ZomB]

Thanks for the links. Well as of right now I have two sony vtc5 batteries in the checkout basket from RTD. Should those be authentic sony vtc5? Any reports of fakes from RTD?

 

[readeuler]

I believe Baditude (or someone else, forgive me if I'm wrong) has a list of 4 very reputable vendors for as-authentic-as-they-get-whatever-that-means Sony batteries, and RTD is on that list.

 

[AzPlumber]

Thanks for the links. Well as of right now I have two sony vtc5 batteries in the checkout basket from RTD. Should those be authentic sony vtc5? Any reports of fakes from RTD?

Yes order from RTD with confidence

 

[AzPlumber]

Thanks for the link. After reading more articles about this topic it seems this whole sony vtc5 thing is just a dark endless hole and basically sony may or may not have ever produced them and if they did they're not telling people due to non intended personal sales or they stopped making them 6 years ago etc... Im still confused on why my local B&M say they have been discontinued... Have vtc5 batteries from RTD (recently) been proved to be authentic? They are in stock right now on their site. What other batteries are PROVEN performers from RTD for mild sub ohm builds? I hear good and bad about efest purple, whats the deal with those?

The purple Efest 18650 2500 mAh are LG cells with a 20 amp continuous rating, stay within 20 amps and they are fine.

 

[Susan~S]

I believe Baditude (or someone else, forgive me if I'm wrong) has a list of 4 very reputable vendors for as-authentic-as-they-get-whatever-that-means Sony batteries, and RTD is on that list.

WHERE TO GET BATTERIES
Just my standard FYI battery post! How to Spot Fake Sony Batteries

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are a few reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics
* RTD Vapor

 

[Newportlocal]

Thanks for the links. Well as of right now I have two sony vtc5 batteries in the checkout basket from RTD. Should those be authentic sony vtc5? Any reports of fakes from RTD?

I trust RTD. It is the one place I have always trusted. No worries there.

 

[readeuler]

Thanks Susan, I knew I'd seen that list of 4 vendors somewhere

 

[ZomB]

Awesome! Two vtc5 batteries and a nitecore charger on the way Thanks everyone! I will report back when I get them to verify they are authentic.

 

[hwwyang]

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=....So I used some of my black belt google-fu.

hahahaha, you are certified Black Belt too? Being using the same style for the past two days as well on this exact issue.

 

[purringcat]

im a cat black belts mean nothing

 

[hwwyang]

I believe Baditude (or someone else, forgive me if I'm wrong) has a list of 4 very reputable vendors for as-authentic-as-they-get-whatever-that-means Sony batteries, and RTD is on that list.

Could you provide this link? I Just order some batteries from Illumn.com and Orbitronic.com but I found them through my black belt in google-fu. Would like some confirmation and some more places for batteries. Thanks !!

 

[Susan~S]

Could you provide this link? I Just order some batteries from Illumn.com and Orbitronic.com but I found them through my black belt in google-fu. Would like some confirmation and some more places for batteries. Thanks !!

See Post #4.

 

[hwwyang]

See Post #4.

Thanx, got it....that's 50%....not bad for my try lol !!