Most people would feel nothing but happiness and joy in giving everyone the benefit of their skills and their inventions, if it wasn't for our need for money to live.
Home made penstyle atty
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The open source community is proof that cooperative sharing is viable. I guess it depends on what your goals are. I have learned a huge amount from the forums here and over at the 'vapor forum that cannot be named' so for me to come up with an idea and not put it back into the public domain would be a bit off. I'm not talking about the OP in this case, just as a general principle.
The current trend of modders attempting to profit can have a negative impact on the mod community. Hopefully it doesn't continue to spread.
The current trend of modders attempting to profit can have a negative impact on the mod community. Hopefully it doesn't continue to spread.
That is an invalid argument. I am part of the Open Source Community as far as linux and other software projects go. That is an entirely different infrastructure compared to this for one thing - and if you are going to do a comparisson this would be a lot more like BSD or something.
In general principle - whether you learn something from a public forum, in school, a texbook, a blog, or life experience - and then expand upon it and make it your own - there is nothing wrong with hitting the ground running with it. Otherwise nothing would get anywhere.
Are completely new and original ideas the only ideas acceptable for people to make money off of? If so, then we would rarely achieve improvements in mainstream fields of importance.
Who makes money in Open Source Community? People that can provide support for it, or assistance in some way. However nobody is allowed commercial profits on direct projects depending on licensing as generall understood and applied.
In this case - I do not think it applies logically - well why aren't all the ecig companies flooding our forums with design specs for example?
Anyway, sorry for the rant but I've been in the OSC for a very long time and I dislike seeing it used as a viable outlet for anything and everything and mainly a guilt trip for anyone that is trying to simply make a living. Cooperative sharing can be a great thing for the right environments but like anything else it is not the right answer for every situation.
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- Hap
You should probably read my comment and then read yours again. The reference to open source was an example of cooperative sharing. It was then qualified with statements both about an individuals goals and a disclaimer that it was a general principle and not targeted at the OP.
You are obviously looking to be argumentative. Sorry man...not in the mood for nerd rage.
Hap - I recently got my first pack of cartomisers - I'm refilling them much more than GrimmGreen (YouTube) advises and they've been pretty good, although the general vape experience is "different" - very mild, but when it gets going it can be very full (thick vapour) and pleasant.
I do hope you will start a cartomiser-mod thread when you've discovered something I can do to prolong the life of mine
And when I say "something I can do", that means it's got to be easy-peasy
scylla
I do hope you will start a cartomiser-mod thread when you've discovered something I can do to prolong the life of mine
And when I say "something I can do", that means it's got to be easy-peasy
scylla
Far from nerd rage - I read your other post carefully before I wrote. No extended arguments here - PM me if you'd like to discuss further or not since it is a bit off topic anyway.
Take care,
- Hap
How to rebuild an atomizer is already "open source", it's here, 1/2 way down the first page:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/8368-cigar-rebuild-pics-bling-v2.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/8368-cigar-rebuild-pics-bling-v2.html
Hap - I recently got my first pack of cartomisers - I'm refilling them much more than GrimmGreen (YouTube) advises and they've been pretty good, although the general vape experience is "different" - very mild, but when it gets going it can be very full (thick vapour) and pleasant.
I do hope you will start a cartomiser-mod thread when you've discovered something I can do to prolong the life of mine
And when I say "something I can do", that means it's got to be easy-peasy
scylla
hehe - well the how-to I am working on isn't really going to be that easy - it is basically how to make your own atomizer using the shell and components of a cartomizer. All you really have to do is replace the 'element' or coil, re-wrap it in good heat resistent material and batting, and you're good to go.... BUT like I said - as far as a quick and easy life extension for the cartomizer I've not found one yet.
In a nut shell - once a person has bought a certain type of 'wire', solder, and a good soldering iron / gun - you will be able to keep yourself in atomizers basically forever as long as you have a few cartomizers to start with.
Especially since wolf (I believe) found out that the N type coax connector is a flat out instant connector for them.
I agree though - I've been using the same 4 cartomz for a week now. No problems and they are all still working fine. I've refilled the one I am using to test the passthrough on a total of 5 times now (with one good alchohol and dist water rinse last night) and it is stil truckin right along!
Take care,
- Hap
People that can package a product. Whether that product is support, or pretty packaging, product is product.
I would say the manufacturers not sharing design specs (you can dual license - Trolltech (now under Nokia) paved the way quite nicely) is to their detriment. People here could provide insight, not to build their own, but to have and use a better product.
A person can design the "perfect" PV. Can this person manufacture them? Not necessarily. When you share, the DIY crew with the right gear and energy to make it can reproduce something to an extent, or create improvements. However, this does not mean that the majority fits into this category.
Anyways, its obvious I support the sharing of ideas. Its tough to have a good product with solid compatibility when you're bogged down by the proprietary - and trust me, I know this from experience, I deal with it daily.
That's really impressive and I appreciate the link. That thread was started a long, long time ago and it amazes me to see how many of the developments we wish were being made have already been made months ago only to be buried in the forum. Thanks again.
That's the one I'm looking for.
A big atty operating at the best temp for flavor and giving lots of vapor.
A regular 510 PV (which is not known for best flavor) easily beats the taste I get from my 801 running at 5 volts.
This is very very GREAT! Finally, the possibility of an atomizer repair shop! I posted a thread dreaming of this months ago, and now, perhaps the holy grail is on the horizon! Just imagine, sending in 10 or 20 dead attys and spending only a % of what they would cost new. Good job and you have my support!
I just wanted to thank carlos for advise and help. I have successfully rebuilt 10 RN4081 attys now and all work better than new. I owe it all to all my atomizers dying and leaving me vapeless and the help of carlos. Thank you very much Carlos I have been vaping for 7 months and have done several battery and usb mods but thought I could never rebuild atomizers and as everyone has said who knows about the future and the thought of analog cigarettes again really turned my stomach. Thankfully now I know I won't have to.
I'm glad I could be of help to you ... but you did alot of research yourself and all I did was point you in the right direction and give you some simple tips.
Now when I finish my step by step, which should be in the next couple of days, on making your own from scratch your modding will take a different route. Have fun and keep modding !!!
Carlos
Can't wait Carlos I would love to build my own from scratch. I would love to get a copy so let me know when they are ready.
Yay Carlos!! I just found this thread because I was worried about what to do if they ban vapes and I was looking for info on how to do this. Going back to analogs is NOT an option. I thought I would point out that this whole debate over whether you should share the info or profit from it is rather unnecessary (not to mention nobody else's business) You could always sell the diagrams. That could actually be more profitable since you wouldn't have to set up a whole production facility that could be shut down any day now depending on how court cases go
The step-by-step will be much appreciated. And hey, if you decided to sell 'em, we'll probably buy at least a few, just because it's easier than breaking out the soldering iron.
A quick question, and forgive me if the video explained this, as this notebook can't handle youtube - are the home built atty's more durable? The wires on the ones we buy now are - er - brittle would be something of an understatement.
Again, many thanks Carlos.
A quick question, and forgive me if the video explained this, as this notebook can't handle youtube - are the home built atty's more durable? The wires on the ones we buy now are - er - brittle would be something of an understatement.
Again, many thanks Carlos.
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