Horrible Buttery taste,,,,pls help

[Billy3929]

Hey guys, what am i doing wrong.
Every time i try to do any flavours with any sort of cream i always end up with a juice that tastes horribly buttery,,,
Any ideas what im doing wrong?
Trying to do mothers milk,,,even if i do anything with cookie in it i keep getting a horrible Buttery taste,,,
Help meeeeee PALEEEEZ,,, im losing the will to live with mixing,,,

 

[lamarrk]

Moving this to the DIY e-liquid section. One of our members should be able to help with this.

 

[dannyv45]

What brand of flavors are they. I've herd this complaint before and usually it boils down to, to much cream flavor added or it was not steeped long enough. Cream takes 3 - 5 weeks of steeping. I've also had a few Hangsen cream flavors taste very buttery but that was gone with 3 weeks of steeping.

 

[Billy3929]

Danny, its TFA bavarian cream and sweet cream as well,,,

 

[Yiana]

I'd let it steep for two weeks minimun.

 

[issy]

I'm fairly certain that the culpriit is the tfa bavarian cream. Let it steep!!

 

[Billy3929]

Ok guys so its a steeping issue.
Thanks for the great advice

 

[Billy3929]

I'm fairly certain that the culpriit is the tfa bavarian cream. Let it steep!!

Here is the recipe ill be using..
Strawberry ripe 10%
Bavarian cream 3%
Sweat cream 3%
Cheesecake graham crust 5%
Vanilla custard 2%
Recipe says steep for 70 hrs...so you recommend at least 3 weeks or should i dial back on the creams?
Its a recipe i found for mothers milk..il be doing a 80/20 mix with 6 mg

 

[dannyv45]

Try dialing back to 2% total cream and use one or the other but not both. Vanilla custard also adds creaminess. So the vanilla custard and 2% of one of the other creams should provide enough creaminess.

 

[Jdurand]

That recipe is Unicorn milk, not mothers milk. It's a good one too, I use it all the time.

 

[Jdurand]

And freshly mixed it has a terrible buttery flavor you describe, I believe the culprit is the Vanilla Custard, especially if you use the V1. (a.k.a. the good one)

 

[scotdc]

Try dialing back to 2% total cream and use one or the other but not both. Vanilla custard also adds creaminess. So the vanilla custard and 2% of one of the other creams should provide enough creaminess.

Definitely dial down the creams - 6% total will take over your mix. Danny has a good suggestion for 2% total cream, you can always add more after a 3 week steep.

Have you tried the creams in a stand-alone mix to get a feel for their individual flavor? Try 3% of each in a 5ml sample just to get the taste, and then try 1.5% of each blended together to see if you like it mixed better. I mixed for months with recipes until I started tasting every single flavor I have in a test batch as a stand alone. I feel much better now knowing exactly how my tastes react with certain flavors and can easily substitute something I prefer in any recipe I come across. I wish I had done that from the very beginning. I've had recipes that turned from horrible to magic with the simple substitution of one single ingredient.

You also may be over-flavoring everything as well, 23% total flavoring is a little high. Yes, taste is subjective, but many flavors vanish entirely when used in too high a percentage. For example, I was testing Inawera's US Blend and found there was almost no taste at 6%, which confused me because I use my Hangsen tobaccos at 6% to 8%. I was literally blown away when I tried the US Blend at 3% and found it to have a fantastic flavor and nice ashy undertone - it was a completely different juice. It seems strange, but you might actually get a stronger flavor if you cut down the flavoring by 1/3 or even 1/2 to start. You can always add more.

 

[dannyv45]

You can over flavor very easily with TFA flavors and most times over flavoring will actually mute flavor. I would also dial back the strawberry ripe to about 6% and the graham to 3%.

 

[Jdurand]

10% CAP Ripe Strawberry
5% TFA Cheese cake Graham Cracker Crust
3% CAP Sweet Cream
3% CAP Bavarian Cream
2% CAP Vanilla Custard

My Unicorn Milk recipe. Many have tried it and said it was very good. I did not create it. I also thought the 23% total was very high, I cut the mix in half and found this recipe (IMHO) needs to be that high for all the flavors to come through.

 

[Capt.shay]

Here is the recipe ill be using..
Strawberry ripe 10%
Bavarian cream 3%
Sweat cream 3%
Cheesecake graham crust 5%
Vanilla custard 2%
Recipe says steep for 70 hrs...so you recommend at least 3 weeks or should i dial back on the creams?
Its a recipe i found for mothers milk..il be doing a 80/20 mix with 6 mg

I Shake and Vape a near identical mix and I find this to be the advantage of a high percentage mix. I find that it gets muted down to much if I let it steep very long and after about 3 weeks the Grahm takes over. This is one of the problems with high percentage mixes.

 

[Billy3929]

Some great advice,,,but now im really confused lol..hmmm,,what to do,,ok,,ill try and compromise,,
How do you guys think on this?
Strawberry ripe 10%
Sweet cream 2%
Cheesecake graham crust 3%
Vanilla custard 2%
Do you guys think this will get the desired taste?
I got the original recipe from another site and all the comments were saying its pretty spot on. I love cream based flavours ive bought,, but every time i try to do one as i said its like vaping half a kilo of kerrygolds finest. Im looking for my all day vape,,ive found loads when bought but its an old story its far too expensive,,, would love a wee success with this one....

 

[Capt.shay]

Make both. You tell us

 

[Billy3929]

Do you know what capt shay,,,thats what ill do,,,,
Again thanks for all the advice..
;-)

 

[rice721]

10% CAP Ripe Strawberry
5% TFA Cheese cake Graham Cracker Crust
3% CAP Sweet Cream
3% CAP Bavarian Cream
2% CAP Vanilla Custard

My Unicorn Milk recipe. Many have tried it and said it was very good. I did not create it. I also thought the 23% total was very high, I cut the mix in half and found this recipe (IMHO) needs to be that high for all the flavors to come through.

Just saw this on e liquid recipe and made it. Shake and vaped it as well. It just gets better. Made it 8 hours ago and I'm half a bottle in.

 

[GPC2012]

Here is the recipe ill be using..
Strawberry ripe 10%
Bavarian cream 3%
Sweat cream 3%
Cheesecake graham crust 5%
Vanilla custard 2%
Recipe says steep for 70 hrs...so you recommend at least 3 weeks or should i dial back on the creams?
Its a recipe i found for mothers milk..il be doing a 80/20 mix with 6 mg

The Cheesecake with graham crust always gives it a horrible taste to me. Try the cheesecake without the graham in it. Makes all the difference in the world. IMHO