How can I get my dad to start vaping?
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Take it from a cranky old man that smoked for nearly 60 years. No amount of family pressure could lead me to give up the smokes. The more they tried....the more I dug in. It's gonna have to start with him. But....don't give up....the anologs are slowly killing him. Good luck and blessings.....
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I have to agree with the cranky ol' man. I am a kinda cranky ol' lady who smoked for over 45 years. It had to be my decision. Good on you for wanting your Dad to switch to a safer alternative but he has to want it. All you can do is be there with a helping hand when he needs one.
Some of us don't immediately switch from smokes to a vape. Let him try dual use. It is what I did and after a few months I just didn;t pick up a smoke. The more the wife pestered me about quitting smoking the more I smoked.
By the way, as a old guy, vaping and smoking is not the same. That is a good thing.
By the way, as a old guy, vaping and smoking is not the same. That is a good thing.
Just because YOU think it's time for him to switch, doesn't mean that he does. And he won't, until HE does. It's called Free Will. And no, it's not the same; it's vaping, not smoking; those of us who CHOOSE to make the switch find a way to make it *similar enough* -- but it takes a good deal of motivation even after making that choice for oneself.
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You're gonna have to wait till HE thinks it's time. Just let him have some equipment lying around for him to try, and let him get used to the idea. I know it's hard to watch someone you love keep smoking, but in the end, it's up to him.
Pressure, as stated above, can result in him digging into his position deeper. (Did with me when I still smoked. Anti-smoking PSA comes on TV, I light one up!)
http://www.aromaejuice.com/G-I-Joe-WTA-G-I-Joe-WTA.htm
You might wanna purchase a couple different tanks to see if he likes the performance on one better than the other @ different wattages and your going to have to look at it as an investment not just wasting money, in the end it will be money well spent ........ he can start off with mixing an hour here and there vaping maybe at home till he's confident enough to think he doesn't look (hipster) doing it in public.
You might wanna purchase a couple different tanks to see if he likes the performance on one better than the other @ different wattages and your going to have to look at it as an investment not just wasting money, in the end it will be money well spent ........ he can start off with mixing an hour here and there vaping maybe at home till he's confident enough to think he doesn't look (hipster) doing it in public.
YOU CAN'T MAKE HIM SWITCH AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO DO SO OR EVEN EXPECT THAT HE DO.
If you must.. Give him a good "Starter Set-up". If he likes it he will switch if not he won't.
I smoked for 35 years.... In no way is vaping ANYTHING like smoking. The only reason I was able to switch.. Is that I didn't really try to quit smoking. Basically after about 6 months of doing side by side. Cigarettes didn't taste good anymore, and no longer satisfied.
Do not listen to advises to wait till he asks for vape. Nobody asked for iPhone until Steve Jobes advised to use one. Tell your father you want to have him for as long as possible, and that you are very afraid smoking will make this "as long" too short. Make him a gift of vaping gear and ask him to try it to reduce (not to quit) smoking. Yes, it could bring no results, but without trying there definitely will be no results.
P.S. Actually, I just described what my wife had done.
P.S. Actually, I just described what my wife had done.
I have always said anybody can switch if they:
Want to, have the right setup for them, and give it two weeks
Want to, have the right setup for them, and give it two weeks
I agree that it's a good idea to make a good selection of different kinds of hardware available to him, and different flavors of juice, too -- but don't have any expectations; he'll use it or he won't, but you can't make him, and if you try, it will just set him harder against the idea. People make life changes more willingly when they think it's THEIR idea.
Andria
ETA: I also don't think it's a good idea to have a still-smoker try WTA; WTA is most effective for those who've already quit smoking, but find vaping somehow lacking... if he is still smoking, WTA won't seem any different from any other kind of ejuice, and he'll never be able to learn if he really needs it or not -- most don't, obviously. You only notice the difference of WTA when you've been using just-nicotine for a while. Not everyone benefits from WTA, and it seems to me that those who benefit LEAST are those who are still smoking ANY amount. (because WTA is no substitute for the commitment to quitting -- it won't do squat for psychological addiction, only for physical dependence to those other alkaloids)
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ETA: I also don't think it's a good idea to have a still-smoker try WTA; WTA is most effective for those who've already quit smoking, but find vaping somehow lacking... if he is still smoking, WTA won't seem any different from any other kind of ejuice, and he'll never be able to learn if he really needs it or not -- most don't, obviously. You only notice the difference of WTA when you've been using just-nicotine for a while. Not everyone benefits from WTA, and it seems to me that those who benefit LEAST are those who are still smoking ANY amount. (because WTA is no substitute for the commitment to quitting -- it won't do squat for psychological addiction, only for physical dependence to those other alkaloids)
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Some of the older gentlemen and ladies I know that vape don't enjoy the flavors nearly as much as I do. My mom tried unflavored and loved it, even better than tobacco or menthol. She said it's the closest thing she's had to a light cigarette since she started vaping.
You can't make him switch he has to want too and it has to be in his own time not yours. I had family, friends and a lot of doctors on at me for over ten years to stop smoking but until the end when I couldn't ignore what smoking was doing to me I ignored it and convinced myself I was OK. There will come a point where your dad will start to think about it and decide himself that smoking is not something he wants to do and when it happens be there for him then and very gently try to suggest vaping if possible in a way he thinks it's it's more his idea then yours. Hard as it might be for you drop the subject for now and let things happen in their own time if not you might make him completely opposed to the idea of vaping.
You cant make him switch.
Friendly advise, Id give up on the idea entirely of making another human being do anything they dont want to do to start with. It will save you a lot of grief and frustration in the future.
That being said, I can understand your wanting him to quit smoking. Lead by example. He will eventually come around.
I vaped for over 2 years before my dad decided to try it. I never pushed it on him but I was there to support him when he made the decision on his own.
Friendly advise, Id give up on the idea entirely of making another human being do anything they dont want to do to start with. It will save you a lot of grief and frustration in the future.
That being said, I can understand your wanting him to quit smoking. Lead by example. He will eventually come around.
I vaped for over 2 years before my dad decided to try it. I never pushed it on him but I was there to support him when he made the decision on his own.
Truer words were never spoken. You cannot coerce another human to do ANYTHING -- you can only offer motivation -- in extreme cases, physical force perhaps, or a loaded gun -- but it's still just motivation.
Even with children -- you can offer them positive reinforcement, a reward if they do what you want -- or negative reinforcement, punishment if they don't do as you wish -- but the choice is still theirs. For an adult, you really can't offer even that -- their reward would be better health; their punishment would be illness/death -- but it's out of your hands entirely.
Andria
Get him to make the switch? As in force him? Whew! Well, of the top of my head I'd say find something he loves and threaten to kill it. It doesn't matter what it is but the more attached he is to it the better. (You have to really think this through, if you have to pick between say Grandma and his motorcycle, you might automatically think Grandma but he may think "well, Grandma has only maybe 5 good years left but I can ride my bike for another 30 years" so the bike may actually be more important to him.) The thing is, he may call your bluff so be prepared for a show of force. This isn't the time to go all namby pamby. If its grandma, get her some Depends. From my experience, even if she is in on the plan, the elderly still lose bowel control when the knife gets near their throat. (Depends also work on a Harley. They leak oil like an engine in need of Imodium.) Be prepared for some prison time, at least until dad drops the charges.
So lets see Dad:
Morning cough? Smoking, only makes it worse. Vaping, most no longer are blessed with that.
Meds for smoking related breathing issues? Smoking, only makes it worse. Vaping, decreased use or no longer necessary.
Smell and taste? Senses return to normal. And You smell better to others.
Smoking health deterioration? Vaping, most show improved health.
Smoking outside vs vaping inside you home.
Costs of smoking? $5 a pack and rising.
These are just the things that I've experienced. There's probably a lot more but....
Morning cough? Smoking, only makes it worse. Vaping, most no longer are blessed with that.
Meds for smoking related breathing issues? Smoking, only makes it worse. Vaping, decreased use or no longer necessary.
Smell and taste? Senses return to normal. And You smell better to others.
Smoking health deterioration? Vaping, most show improved health.
Smoking outside vs vaping inside you home.
Costs of smoking? $5 a pack and rising.
These are just the things that I've experienced. There's probably a lot more but....
All you can do is suggest and advise, but he may never try, or try and give up quickly.
I've tried a few times with my dad. The cheaper than cigars aspect appealed to him for about 30seconds. But, he's done quite a job over all these decades convincing himself that cigars have no health risks. He thinks its the paper on cigarettes that cause cancer, and don't try to tell him otherwise.
I also have a friend whose daughter wanted her to quit because she (daughter) became pregnant and didn't want grandma smoking around the baby. Since my friend never wanted to quit herself, I knew this wouldn't work and it hasn't. I set her up with vapes in February. They sit there with putrid liquid and coils, unused. Last month I cleaned them and tossed the juice and coils, and got them working well again, but I bet they haven't been touched since. She has a lot of excuses: they are too big one day and too small the next, she doesn't like her juice, she has no money for new juice (but can spend $600 a month smoking between her and her husband
). The simple fact is THEY don't want to quit. Their daughter wants them to.
I've tried a few times with my dad. The cheaper than cigars aspect appealed to him for about 30seconds. But, he's done quite a job over all these decades convincing himself that cigars have no health risks. He thinks its the paper on cigarettes that cause cancer, and don't try to tell him otherwise.
I also have a friend whose daughter wanted her to quit because she (daughter) became pregnant and didn't want grandma smoking around the baby. Since my friend never wanted to quit herself, I knew this wouldn't work and it hasn't. I set her up with vapes in February. They sit there with putrid liquid and coils, unused. Last month I cleaned them and tossed the juice and coils, and got them working well again, but I bet they haven't been touched since. She has a lot of excuses: they are too big one day and too small the next, she doesn't like her juice, she has no money for new juice (but can spend $600 a month smoking between her and her husband
). The simple fact is THEY don't want to quit. Their daughter wants them to.- Status
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