NanoVapor seems to have left the building. If he (and I assume "he") did indeed do all he claimed to do, his little experiments were clearly not without lingering effect, as he claimed...they made him write like a 13 year old. Perhaps one of the moderators took my hint and sent him a PM.
Ironically, "nano" means extremely small. I would assume that holds for his brains, as well as his vapor. The ONLY way what he was saying had any truth at all is if he were part of one of the groups I mentioned. And if that were the case he would likely be sworn to secrecy. His few other posts were without substance or overt clues. As I said, some intro greetings, a shout out to DonDaBoom for a nice job writing his opus magnum on PVs, and something about coffee and vaping. Oh, and mentioning a few times that he donated to ECF.
If I am wrong on these things, and he really did do these things, I stand humbly corrected, and will apologize for not trusting him. His message, however, was none the less very reckless and plain not true. There are many factors involved in skin absorption of toxins, even for the same toxin with two different people. Soft, clean skin will absorb far better than calloused grimy skin. Good habits when working with high-nic juices, or at least the public record of communicating them, is simply without debate. Advocating a devil-may-care attitude around these materials is patently ridiculous.
Of course, I think he is/was a troll, looking to cause trouble, and didn't count on any one of us having some knowledge about these things. Trolls are like that. They focus on trouble, and tend to overlook sound science. If they knew sound science, chances are they wouldn't need to waste time trolling. They tend to post things, after a short period of inconsequential postings, that are meant to derail the topic and cause arguments and silly debating over things that are not pertinent. Or worse, in the case of ECF, they present dangerous examples, hoping someone follows them, or claim serious health effects no one has heard of. Then they vanish, and rarely respond to questions. They just sit back and watch everyone waste their time...like me right now...barking at each other about stupid stuff.
In the health forum, someone posted something about diabetes and vaping is killing them. Claimed their doc told them so. Forget about the fact that there are lots of diabetics here that have zero issues with PG or VG vaping, as confirmed by daily blood tests. This person was dying and had to get rid of their $3000+ investment into hardware, juices, etc. Listed a bewildering list of PVs, including several e-pipes, several different pen styles, etc, bewildering especially since this uber-vaper had all of 34 posts. All these PVs and juices had to be THROWN OUT, or else DEATH WOULD HAPPEN!! Weeks of debating followed, but not involving the OP. They were gone, and haven't posted since.
Most trolls don't converse. They post insane stuff meant to derail and scare. If they actually tried to back up their statements they would be found out quick.
Got a PM from someone who, again, had about 34 posts, saying that VAPING WAS KILLING HER WHOLE FAMILY!! They were all going to the hospital and did I have any advice. She chose me because I have some chemistry education. I wrote back, but no response, and no further posts.
Nanavapor is likely a troll. I suggest he step up or be banned. His post set an astoundingly dangerous example to the inexperienced, and no one who actually worked with mega-toxins like he claimed would ever publicly advocate such carelessness. And why would they? My guess is his "Supporting Member" status was meant to make the mods reluctant to ban him. Others may disagree, think I'm too hard on him, but this board is one huge paper trail, and what we say and the advice we give does matter.
I'm inclined to recommend banning him if there is no response, if my opinion counts.






