How educated do I need to be for what I am doing?

[lamensterms]

Hi guys,

Just been reading a few things (insulators burning through & shorting, the recent mod explosion, etc) and just wondering if I am in over me head with what I'm doing or if I'm in the 'safe' category.

I don't have any mods, and the sub-est of sub ohming I do is the 0.5ohm Subtank coils. I have the Subtank Nano & Mini.

The two batteries I use are the Ego One and the Aspire CF Sub Ohm. I'm getting into rebuilding the stock OCC coils and my coils clock in between 0.6 & 0.8 ohm.

So a few questions...

- with the two batteries I have, what could go wrong? I've read about the safety features of the Ego One & the CFSubOhm but my knowledge of electronics is really basic. The have short protection, over charge protect, etc? The CFSubOhm has 9 second cut off on the fire button, not sure about the Ego One.

- What would happen if the insulators on the OCC coil burned through & shorted?

- the Ego One does heat up when charging, is this an issue or is it considered normal?

I really just want to be as safe as possible, and I'm not sure if I've got the time & patience to get educated.

What do you guys reckon?

Thanks a lot for any help.

 

[Mailablemage]

Well for starters you need to know how to use ohms law, and have an understanding of what it means in relation to what you are doing

 

[rob33]

Didn't I see a youtube of a ego exploding and going across the room into a sheetrock wall. It's up to you, but the last thing I would try to sub ohm with is an ego.

 

[crxess]

Didn't I see a youtube of a ego exploding and going across the room into a sheetrock wall. It's up to you, but the last thing I would try to sub ohm with is an ego.

Maybe you should read up. EGO ONE is a Sub ohm enclosed battery device, Not an ego type starter battery.
Most launched(exploded) ego type batteries are due to Faulty Charging.

Op, your current setup is relatively safe.
That said, any battery could fail at any time unexpectedly. Safe practices, caution and awareness are the only things you can control.
Stay with-in product design limits and you should avoid issues.

 

[JMarca]

Hi guys,

Just been reading a few things (insulators burning through & shorting, the recent mod explosion, etc) and just wondering if I am in over me head with what I'm doing or if I'm in the 'safe' category.

I don't have any mods, and the sub-est of sub ohming I do is the 0.5ohm Subtank coils. I have the Subtank Nano & Mini.

The two batteries I use are the Ego One and the Aspire CF Sub Ohm. I'm getting into rebuilding the stock OCC Coils and my coils clock in between 0.6 & 0.8 ohm.

So a few questions...

- with the two batteries I have, what could go wrong? I've read about the safety features of the Ego One & the CFSubOhm but my knowledge of electronics is really basic. The have short protection, over charge protect, etc? The CFSubOhm has 9 second cut off on the fire button, not sure about the Ego One.

- What would happen if the insulators on the OCC coil burned through & shorted?

- the Ego One does heat up when charging, is this an issue or is it considered normal?

I really just want to be as safe as possible, and I'm not sure if I've got the time & patience to get educated.

What do you guys reckon?

Thanks a lot for any help.

You had the common sense to ask, you've already proven to have more brains than alot of other people.

If you want to be absolutely safe it's very easy to do these days, we have many options now. Alot of your concerns can be completely eradicated by simply using a good regulated and protected mod. Alot of the mods out there right now such as the Vapor Shark or other regulated mods that use a DNA or SX chip inside have most of your worries covered. The only other thing I'd change if you wanted to be 100% safe is I'd make sure to only use 35A high quality 18650 batteries such as a Sony VTC or LG 18650 battery.

I'm sure it (the ego one) might be fine but I'd rather go with a regulated mod and a replaceable battery. Not only is it more convenient but the 18650 batteries have a proven track record of abuse the ego one hasn't been stress tested like the batteries I've mentioned above have been.

 

[tj99959]

Seems like many want maximum performance with the least effort. It also seems like many must think that learning hurts or something.

Sorry, but I just consider a Porsche a poor choice for drivers ed.

 

[caramel]

K-12 + common sense + Lithium battery safety should be enough.

 

[Robino1]

Honestly? You can never have too much knowledge.

 

[caramel]

Honestly? You can never have to much knowledge.

The question was "how much is needed". I agree with you that "more is better" but what I mentioned should be sufficient.

 

[tj99959]

The question was "how much is needed". I agree with you that "more is better" but what I mentioned should be sufficient.

Are you sure? Read the OP.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/658688-atomizer-coil.html

Do you really think this person is ready for a high wattage box mod & a rda?!?

 

[caramel]

Are you sure? Read the OP.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/658688-atomizer-coil.html

Looks like an "I thought there would be more stuff included in the package" thing.

 

[tj99959]

Looks like an "I thought there would be more stuff included in the package" thing.

Looks more like an "I don't know a thing about wrapping coils" thing to me.

 

[lamensterms]

Thanks for the replies & advice guys. I'm gunna learn up on how reliable the two batteries I have are. I like the simplicity of the contained batteries, to be honest - I don't think I'm at the stage for a legit mod with removable batteries.

 

[ckquatt]

I really just want to be as safe as possible, and I'm not sure if I've got the time & patience to get educated.

This statement right here says it all. If this is the case, stick to standard ohm stuff...

 

[HauntedMyst]

How educated do I need to be for what I am doing?

I'm barely able to walk upright and still haven't blown myself up so all in all in order to vape successfully and rebuild coils = not so educated.

 

[DingerCPA]

We're playing with electricity here. It's very possible that something "could" go wrong, especially if a head shorts out. I don't know much about those two devices, but I believe they're both "rated" to work with 0.5 ohm coils. I also think that both batteries have some form of short-circuit protection, but there is NEVER a guarantee that it will ALWAYS work.

I have a degree in Electrical Engineering, and although I'm focused on a different career path these days, I have enough respect for the equipment and what it could possibly do to want to know what I'm putting up to my lips and face. You don't need a PhD to vape, but treating this too lightly isn't advisable IMO.

OP, I do applaud you for at least knowing the resistance of the heads you're rebuilding. So many people out here say, "I just wrapped two wraps around something and stuffed some wick in it - is that safe?" Then they proceed to not know what an ohmmeter is or how to use one.

You don't have to write a dissertation or present a thesis, but the more you know and understand about what you have and how you use it SAFELY really just leads to the further enjoyment of the equipment.

With Robino1, is there truly such a thing as "too much knowledge"?

Best wishes and vape safely

 

[HauntedMyst]

With Robino1, is there truly such a thing as "too much knowledge"?

Yes. I know, or should I say knew a guy named Larry. He was working on parallel Phds in Physics and Chemistry. Through the school he was asked to work on a project for Fermi Lab that involved something new and in the process of studying it, he had an aneurysm. His brain actually got too full and caused some of the vessels to burst. Now he works at PetSmart washing cats. True story.

 

[Fizzpop]

You are most likely safe, although do learn Ohm's law and get a good handle on battery physics/chemistry. High drain batteries are a must. Personally, I never go below 0.8 Ohms - I find that performs more than well enough, most of the time I am in the 1.0 - 1. 4 Ohm range. Why? Measurement error. Your Ohm reader may read 0.5 Ohms, but there is error in that measurement. It may actually be lower. And the lower you go, the less room for error there is to be had.

That being said, many vape lower (some much more so). I vape at the resistance I do because I like a fairly thick vapor and like my coil to heat up quickly. I find at higher resistances, I need to take a few "primer" puffs to get things going and this annoys me. I think some people just are racing to the bottom, so to speak to see how low they can go and personally, I think this is a dangerous game.

 

[edyle]

Hi guys,

Just been reading a few things (insulators burning through & shorting, the recent mod explosion, etc) and just wondering if I am in over me head with what I'm doing or if I'm in the 'safe' category.

I don't have any mods, and the sub-est of sub ohming I do is the 0.5ohm Subtank coils. I have the Subtank Nano & Mini.

The two batteries I use are the Ego One and the Aspire CF Sub Ohm. I'm getting into rebuilding the stock OCC Coils and my coils clock in between 0.6 & 0.8 ohm.

So a few questions...

- with the two batteries I have, what could go wrong? I've read about the safety features of the Ego One & the CFSubOhm but my knowledge of electronics is really basic. The have short protection, over charge protect, etc? The CFSubOhm has 9 second cut off on the fire button, not sure about the Ego One.

- What would happen if the insulators on the OCC coil burned through & shorted?

- the Ego One does heat up when charging, is this an issue or is it considered normal?

I really just want to be as safe as possible, and I'm not sure if I've got the time & patience to get educated.

What do you guys reckon?

Thanks a lot for any help.

1: what could go wrong; well if the battery gets damaged and the electronics fail, or if the battery gets wet by eliquid.
2: if the insulators burned and you got a short, your egoone or cfsubohm should show an error message and not fire.
3: battery warming up while charging is a concern (but not unusual); if you could put it on a slower charge it should bot heat up.

 

[edyle]

Thanks for the replies & advice guys. I'm gunna learn up on how reliable the two batteries I have are. I like the simplicity of the contained batteries, to be honest - I don't think I'm at the stage for a legit mod with removable batteries.

A battery device where the battery is an integrated part of the device is a suitable unit for somebody starting out vaping.

Unless it's more like an occasional vaper, a replaceable battery mod is the better, safer, longer term device.

When it comes to safety, the central focal point is the battery itself. With a replaceable battery mod, you can toss out a suspect battery and get a new one and keep your perfectly good mod.

As you use a battery over a period of months, it's performance will deteriorate; with a replaceable battery mod, you will observe the difference yourself between your older batteries and your newer batteries; with a simple fixed battery device like the istick, you have nothing to compare unless you buy a newer istick.

Right now I have 4 18650 batteries; 2 are over a year old, and I know which 2 they are; if I'm going out for the day, I know which battery to take with me; if I'm just going out for a short while and will be back soon, I know I'll be good with the old batteries.

If something goes wrong, and a mod is getting hot, I can unscrew and take the battery out, and stop the discharge.
When it's a fixed battery device you can't do that; you have to toss the thing somewhere and watch helplessly as the thing discharges;

in fact that scenario was exactly what turned the corner for me and I made the decision to get replaceable battery mods instead of ego batteries - an ego twist I happened to be using back in 2013 started smoking in my hand; I dropped it on the floor and sat by helpless for several minutes; after it was all done, I still wished I could get inside that thing and disconnect the battery