HOW has the Provari not been cloned?
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Clone Factoid: A rattlesnakes rattle shakes at 20-90 Hz depending on external Temps, (40-95ºF)
Revolvers are old and out of date too but they have a legendary record of dependability and people want that. Push the button and it works. Anytime, Everytime... I think times they are a changing but for today that's how it is.
There are many people here that have experienced that same effect also ,just gotta pay attention !
Correct, they have DNA20 and 30 clones and are rumored to have a 100w rig too.
But thanks for playing.
This^
Just to add one more thing and then we'll let it rest - most people who are turned off to the 33.3 are so because of the mouth feel, not a sound, even though it is audible.
yes.
at times when you think you can ignore it, that audible clue can be a horrid reminder. irritating as can be...
The 33 hertz snaps and feeds bigger droplets.
In my imaginary cloud chamber, when i measure the particle size...
Straight DC gives a nice distribution, very small particles.
800 hertz approaches that, not very noticable.
33 hertz, naw, big huge droplets floating around.
People that can read graphs know, others that trust them believe.
To all the rest, buy a MVP and not a Vamo
In my imaginary cloud chamber, when i measure the particle size...
Straight DC gives a nice distribution, very small particles.
800 hertz approaches that, not very noticable.
33 hertz, naw, big huge droplets floating around.
People that can read graphs know, others that trust them believe.
To all the rest, buy a MVP and not a Vamo
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Me...well, I'm waiting for something with more performance to offer like a dna 30 device, or maybe I'll build myself a custom chopper with a dna engine. Said another way, I'd much rather hit the highway on a modern sport touring liter class machine, than a sixty horsepower thousand pound milwaukee sled.
But I digress... I agree these threads serve no real purpose other than entertainment, bragging rights and nit picking like I just did
ps... don't get me wrong folks, I'd love to own one too
LOL, you cut up harley for being underpowered in the horsepower department, do you have a clue as to how torque relates to horsepower?
Harley make a model that pushes out 120 horsepower if you so wish to choose that.
It's called the Night Rod and it's at a dealer near you.
A lot of people are more interested in the torque of an engine rather than the horsepower that it puts out.
A Road King is certainly a competant touring bike.
Horsepower is a function of engine speed, a tiny two stroke dirt bike can make horsepower like crazy, do you wish to buy that and take it on a trip?
A liter class bike? umm, whats the displacement of a Road King?
A VTwin like a Harley engine does not need to spin over to crazy speeds to make power.
Bombardier pretty much copied the design in their line of Quads, it pulls like crazy.
Horsepower ratings are certainly not my criteria for buying anything, sorry you are stuck on the marketing gimmicks.
Did you ever wonder how a truck with a diesel is rated so low in horsepower but so high in torque?
You can make a gas job that has the same power, however, you are going to have to have that engine RPM way higher to do it.
There is an equation for that you can google.
Suffice to say, a Vtwin design will make more power at any given RPM, they just can't rev as high, thusly the peak horsepower isn't as high. There is a transmission that you can shift gears to take care of that.
If you want peak horsepower, good for you, but be prepared for high rpm's
A formula one car makes power for a reason, it spins at insane speeds.
Insane speeds equate to wearing out quicker.
And yet again, I could care less, but don't fool yourself, horsepower shouldn't be the determining factor in your purchasing decisions.
Put your high horsepower machine up against a steady load like a dynometer, you will see that horsepower comes with engine speed. If you like engine speed, good for you, a lot of people would rather have something that just thumps along and pulls hard.
Harley has even addressed this, they have the 120 HP model for people that get their thrills from numbers in a pamphlet.
It doesn't sell that well, most people that drive Harleys wish for reliability. Heck I can't crack the throttle on a nite glide, let alone hang onto a night rod.
"Night rod V-rod" ?? Meh ... sssdd... just another overweight milwaukee cruiser bike with front set pegs. 120 hp at the crank perhaps.
Yeah right that must be why they're so competitive in the racing circuits around the world heh heh such a great power to weight ratio too. Harleys are so tough and nimble handling in fact, that the AMA had to create their own class to race against other harleys...so that one of them could actually win a roadrace.
Oh and Drag racing haaaaa, those so called V-rods in nhra psm arent v-rods at all and you should know that if you really know anything about building horsepower. The only real reason they're dominating in nhra psm is the rediculous rule books holding the gs's down. Imnsho, the other manufacturers should boycott the nhra with their bs bought and paid for biased rule book.
Of course not.
"Power to weight ratio" is a main determining factor if you're speaking motorcycle performance in my book, plus handling rideability streetability (and even comfort to a lesser degree) all play into such a decision. For me, since I'm not into heavyweight cruiser bikes, poker runs, goofy leather and boulevard profiling etc... I'd rather sport ride, there is really nothing compelling about owning a harley for my own motorcycle riding preferences. Old guy engine performance heh heh... I prefer the old GS engines anyday if you want to talk about making serious and dependable streetable power. It IS "The Small Block Chevy" of the widely available performance engine parts market fwiw. But that discussion would need it's own thread outside of this one of course.
But anyway, I digress heh heh
This thread does NOT need you or I to derail it with some tangental arguement about "your harley davidson frame of mind" so to speak. This thread does not need, nor am i interested in getting into a pissing match with you about motorcycle engine performance building, trust me... you don't want to go there with me zanedog. And btw you didnt even mention Provari in that long winded bait of yours heh heh
I do think most people reading this thread could easily understand what I meant in my original post. Point being that these Provari threads sometimes lead to Hog analogies most of the time because of the "buy American" spirit involved. Good old American Pride...and that's "a good thing"... heck...That's "a great thing" to consider for people thinking about buying a Provari.
So your Provari has big torque hmm... I like that thought too
Like I said already, Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own a Provari too. Someday I just might.
ps...more to the point of this thread...
Has Provari been cloned ? It has etched it's own place in the vaping world, I doubt it would ever be cloned.
Harley talk...yeah ok...
Harley has been cloned by too many to count, but none have been able to take Harleys place with its faithful...
I believe the same holds true for Provari followers
peace out
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nice rebuttal!
won't argue with anything in your post, you put it together well enough.
I don't like Harleys either My bike is a Suzuki DRZ 400
The Provari has been kinda cloned a hundred times over, but how do you get over that, it's a battery holder.
It's like asking if a mag lite has been cloned.
won't argue with anything in your post, you put it together well enough.
I don't like Harleys either My bike is a Suzuki DRZ 400
The Provari has been kinda cloned a hundred times over, but how do you get over that, it's a battery holder.
It's like asking if a mag lite has been cloned.
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It doesn't do VW - it must be crap
Does exactly what it's supposed to without fail - it's probably 'cloneable' at this stage but they'll never be able to replicate the build or reliability.
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http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-suppliers-forum/237094-coming-soon-lavatube.html
A trip down memory lane -- the first "clone" prothingy, with some vamo like features.
It all started here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...oecigs-hardware-new-upgraded.html#post4223291
And here's a good line -- sound familiar? Just plug in another name. "The Lavatube is a great VV mod. We had our test prototype with us at Vapefest, and many people commented that it is what the one of the other VV mods should have been (not gonna name other mods here), and the price being under $100 is killer."
A trip down memory lane -- the first "clone" prothingy, with some vamo like features.
It all started here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...oecigs-hardware-new-upgraded.html#post4223291
And here's a good line -- sound familiar? Just plug in another name. "The Lavatube is a great VV mod. We had our test prototype with us at Vapefest, and many people commented that it is what the one of the other VV mods should have been (not gonna name other mods here), and the price being under $100 is killer."
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