How is PG/VG metabolised?

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Just until I can't wipe myself any more - whether that's 60 or 80 the way I look at it, when I can't poop independently then its time to go. I'm thinking I'll go skydiving, enjoy the fall and the beautiful scenery and then aim for a big, industrial strength wood chipper which will be turned on to "Sequoia Sawdust" mode. Simple, painless, good for the earth and no clean up other than rinsing out the wood chipper.

Personally I would just go the skydiving route and skip the parachute. The free falling would be exhilarating and like you said the view incredible.
 
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Personally I would just go the skydiving route and skip the parachute. The free falling would be exhilarating and like you said the view incredible.

Oh I never open the chute in my scenario. But sometimes people live when they hit the ground because their chute doesn't open hence the woodchipper.
 

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"Life is the dangerest adventure. Nobody survived it yet. But somehow I'd like to prolong the adventure."

Life is the most dangerous adventure. You want to prolong it.

Life.

Do you want to live 300 years? 500 years? 1000 years? The mind goes around 100 years.. the body at 90.... How many years do you want to live?
Philosophical question on vaping forum?
OK, speaking non-philosophically, about life expectancy, I have an example of French woman who lived 120+, smoked, drunk wine... My father died at 73 (throat cancer, smoking)... My grandfather died at 45 (political reasons)...
Who am I to predict my own longevity? I live a dangerous life, I smoked, I eat fat meat, salty snacks, I drink. So you can see vaping is a small potato for my lifestyle, not worth mentioning. But when I see a non-smoker willing to put 30 ml of dumb stuff in his/her lungs daily, I cannot keep silence. For those who live a healthy life backed by Whole Foods and Dr. Oz ,vaping could be the riskiest adventure. They should know it.
 
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PG is used in nebulizers and has been for quite some time. My son uses one, he's special needs. His maternal grandmother uses one in her COPD treatments.

VG is used as a sweetener in food and medicine. It is also used in suppositories, lotion, conditioner, tanning oil, sunblock, and makeup.

Your body's biggest organ is skin, you absorb water, oxygen, good and bad chemicals through it. I know talking about lungs is different but seeing how much contact one could have with VG on their body. I think drastic reactions would have surfaced long ago before e cigarettes were invented, my opinion not fact on this part.

Sorry, you are very wrong here. Lungs are very special. Many things harmless for skin and stomach damage lungs. You can have as much skin contact with sand as you want, you may even eat it if you wish, but sand dust causes silicosis and even cancer. Lungs are lungs.
 

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Philosophical question on vaping forum?
OK, speaking non-philosophically, about life expectancy, I have an example of French woman who lived 120+, smoked, drunk wine... My father died at 73 (throat cancer, smoking)... My grandfather died at 45 (political reasons)...
Who am I to predict my own longevity? I live a dangerous life, I smoked, I eat fat meat, salty snacks, I drink. So you can see vaping is a small potato for my lifestyle, not worth mentioning. But when I see a non-smoker willing to put 30 ml of dumb stuff in his/her lungs daily, I cannot keep silence. For those who live a healthy life backed by Whole Foods and Dr. Oz ,vaping could be the riskiest adventure. They should know it.
No, not a philosophical question at all. You asked what "it" was that I was referring to. The "it" was life from which I referred to your post.

Then I asked how long you expected to prolong your adventure to? Considering the human body only lasts a small amount time in the grand scheme of things (to a human it may be a long time).

A person can choose whatever dumb thing they wish to in life. Who am I to say they can't? As long as they are not forced they can make whatever conscious decision they so choose. They also have to deal with that choice. If it is a bad choice.. man up and move along. Don't come crying or whining to me. I got my own crap to deal with.
 

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If I'm understanding correctly you are concerned about residue from eliquid building up in the lungs?

If so this is a complete non issue, your lungs have what is basically a covering of tiny fingers that are constantly pushing things out of your lungs. This is how the lungs clean dust and other debris out. Otherwise your lungs would look like a vaccum cleaner bag by the time you started walking ;)

Unfortunately windshields and walls don't have the same self-cleaning system as the human body... someone needs to get on that.

Finally a voice of reason.
 

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If I'm understanding correctly you are concerned about residue from eliquid building up in the lungs?

If so this is a complete non issue, your lungs have what is basically a covering of tiny fingers that are constantly pushing things out of your lungs. This is how the lungs clean dust and other debris out. Otherwise your lungs would look like a vaccum cleaner bag by the time you started walking ;)

Unfortunately windshields and walls don't have the same self-cleaning system as the human body... someone needs to get on that.
Sound good in theory, not so good in practice.
Cilia ("tiny fingers") of lungs:
250px-Bronchiolar_epithelium_3_-_SEM.jpg


Cilia does clean lungs, but it is effective with usual lung contamination, "natural" contamination. But human civilization is not old enough to teach cilia to fight new types of contamination. So comes silicosis. Tar from smoking. Popcorn lungs. Etc.

Do not expect natural protection be effective in non-natural setting.
 

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Sound good in theory, not so good in practice.
Cilia ("tiny fingers") of lungs:
250px-Bronchiolar_epithelium_3_-_SEM.jpg


Cilia does clean lungs, but it is effective with usual lung contamination, "natural" contamination. But human civilization is not old enough to teach cilia to fight new types of contamination. So comes silicosis. Tar from smoking. Popcorn lungs. Etc.

Do not expect natural protection be effective in non-natural setting.

Thanks for that post.
 

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Sound good in theory, not so good in practice.
Cilia ("tiny fingers") of lungs:
250px-Bronchiolar_epithelium_3_-_SEM.jpg


Cilia does clean lungs, but it is effective with usual lung contamination, "natural" contamination. But human civilization is not old enough to teach cilia to fight new types of contamination. So comes silicosis. Tar from smoking. Popcorn lungs. Etc.

Do not expect natural protection be effective in non-natural setting.

Good point, although I wasn't talking about how healthy it was to expose tissue to eliquid, just that the eliquid will get carried out of your lungs, it's not going to build up into a pool of juice in your lungs.

Just like tar from smoking. Black lungs from smoking is a myth, it's caused by emphysema not by smoking. I'm sure everyone that smokes remembered coughing up tar from their lungs. Popcorn lung is damage to the tissue due to exposure to a chemical, not because the lungs fill up with popcorn butter.

I'm not making any claims about how safe exposure to eliquid is, I'm just saying that you aren't going to accumulate a pool of eliquid in your lungs, which is what I thought the OP was wondering about.
 
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Good point, although I wasn't talking about how healthy it was to expose tissue to eliquid, just that the eliquid will get carried out of your lungs, it's not going to build up into a pool of juice in your lungs.

Just like tar from smoking. Black lungs from smoking is a myth, it's caused by emphysema not by smoking. I'm sure everyone that smokes remembered coughing up tar from their lungs. Popcorn lung is damage to the tissue due to exposure to a chemical, not because the lungs fill up with popcorn butter.

I'm not making any claims about how safe exposure to eliquid is, I'm just saying that you aren't going to accumulate a pool of eliquid in your lungs, which is what I thought the OP was wondering about.
I wanted to reply, but when I see you are talking about "myths", I stopped. No conspiracy theories for me. Thank you.
 
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