How low can you go!!!
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Agreed. Not everything is for the beginning vaper. There are things that a perfectly safe that the beginning user cannot understand or do safely without training and serious studying.Apparently the vape Police can't read. This thread is in the Rebuildable Atomizer Systems section. For ADVANCED users ! This is not the New Members forum.
It's getting old guys.
Absolutely ! I wouldn't recommend any beginner rebuilding atomizers until they fully learn ohm's law, and battery amp limits at any resistance.
Exactly! Whenever somebody asks me about getting into rebuildables the first thing I tell them is to study up on Ohms Law (YouTube has a bunch of good videos on it) and then find out the specifications of the battery and devices they are using. Subohming can be just as safe as "normal" vaping as long as you know what you are doing.
well said guys^^^^^......agree to all of the above in regards to newbies and advanced techniques.......
I use cotton most of the time but when I'm going real low like to .4 or lower I like to use EKOWOOL........i think it wick faster than cotton on these builds......my cotton on a RDA with a .3 ohm coil dries up fast so EKOWOOL seems to do the trick.....
I was a 30mg mic user for years......always love the buzz i got from vaping!!!.....once i started getting into rebuildables i started to learn alot about airflow and how important it is....so i started lung hitting and got knocked off my feet with the 24mg......went to the shop and got some 11mg nic and now its all good........i also cut my juices with VG most of the time also......
I use cotton most of the time but when I'm going real low like to .4 or lower I like to use EKOWOOL........i think it wick faster than cotton on these builds......my cotton on a RDA with a .3 ohm coil dries up fast so EKOWOOL seems to do the trick.....
I was a 30mg mic user for years......always love the buzz i got from vaping!!!.....once i started getting into rebuildables i started to learn alot about airflow and how important it is....so i started lung hitting and got knocked off my feet with the 24mg......went to the shop and got some 11mg nic and now its all good........i also cut my juices with VG most of the time also......
Apparently the Vape Police can't read. This thread is in the Rebuildable Atomizer Systems section. For ADVANCED users ! This is not the New Members forum.
It's getting old guys.
I truly meant no offense...I'm not an authority on any subject... just speaking my mind. Now I'd like to sit back and enjoy the rest of the thread
I'm worried someone is going to get hurt doing this (or worse), it'll be caught on camera, and the victim's family etc will have all vaping banned and or/illegal.
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As for me I'm still pretty news, but I know all about amps and safe batteries.
My lowest was 1.3ohms on my IGO L on my provari mini, and that's low enough for me!
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As for me I'm still pretty news, but I know all about amps and safe batteries.
My lowest was 1.3ohms on my IGO L on my provari mini, and that's low enough for me!
Thanks for the reponses guys!
I'm currently vaping a .7ohm dual micro coil with cotton on a trident clone, but I just ordered the 22amp samsung battery so i'm looking into some even lower ohmage.
That's an interesting bit about throat hit with nic level.. I forgot and was wondering how to get my 30pg/70vg juice a little smoother... less nic duh...
Probably shouldnt make clouds with 20mg anyway, but what can I say im a junkie
I'm currently vaping a .7ohm dual micro coil with cotton on a trident clone, but I just ordered the 22amp samsung battery so i'm looking into some even lower ohmage.
That's an interesting bit about throat hit with nic level.. I forgot and was wondering how to get my 30pg/70vg juice a little smoother... less nic duh...
Probably shouldnt make clouds with 20mg anyway, but what can I say im a junkie
I've hit .12 with mesh in a dripper. It was way too insane. Usually I stick arouund .2
My out-and-about (18350) coils average 0.6 - 0.7. My at-home-big-cloud dual coil (650) builds are typically around 0.4, no higher than 0.5. I stick with 24-26 ga KA-1 and rolled cotton exclusively. Silica, mesh, hemp all pale in comparison to cotton.
What battery were you using? That would've drawn around 35 Amps...
Some 26650 that a buddy had laying around one time. Some 40 amp monstrosity. I really didnt want to push it much farther. Pulse discharge you might get away with it on the Sony 18650s, but i wouldn't risk it.
I'm worried someone is going to get hurt doing this (or worse), it'll be caught on camera, and the victim's family etc will have all vaping banned and or/illegal.
:/
As for me I'm still pretty news, but I know all about amps and safe batteries.
My lowest was 1.3ohms on my IGO L on my provari mini, and that's low enough for me!
It does happen and I always recommend to people that if they don't know all the risks and safeties involved with going sub then they should do alot of learning first and work their way down. you can't stop stupid people but we can't stop the ones like me who like to go above and beyond.....LOL
This is false^^
Pushing lithium batteries to their limits produces much more failures. My job requires me to deal with electricity and ohms law daily, and I have been using lithium batteries for over 15 years in my hobby, nobody is going to school me. I have seen lithium batteries fail first hand, and sometimes they fail in a blink of an eye. They tend to fail catastrophically when pushed to their limits and very rarely when used well under their limits. We in the RC flight community learned long ago, C ratings are more marketing than reality. Do not trust the C ratings!!!!
With that said, you or anyone else can vape any way you like, freedom of choice is great. Just don't get a Darwin award
wow haven't seen any 26650 batteries with a 40A discharge.......hmmmmmmmm........do you happen to remember what brand the battery was.......??
I would never push a battery to it's limits that would be stupid, especially with lithium batteries. I'm using the green sony 18650s that are capable of discharging continuously at 30A and only pulling about 14A in bursts. When I said "know what you are doing" I meant know what kinds of batteries your using, know what kind of coil you have, know how much current you are going to draw, know how much power you're going to get, etc... When you're doing subohm coils you should always know everything about what you're using.This is false^^
Pushing lithium batteries to their limits produces much more failures. My job requires me to deal with electricity and ohms law daily, and I have been using lithium batteries for over 15 years in my hobby, nobody is going to school me. I have seen lithium batteries fail first hand, and sometimes they fail in a blink of an eye. They tend to fail catastrophically when pushed to their limits and very rarely when used well under their limits. We in the RC flight community learned long ago, C ratings are more marketing than reality. Do not trust the C ratings!!!!
With that said, you or anyone else can vape any way you like, freedom of choice is great. Just don't get a Darwin award
So, subohming CAN be just as safe as normal vaping, you just have to know you're .... and don't buy cheap batteries/mods/atomizers.
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I would never push a battery to it's limits that would be stupid, especially with lithium batteries. I'm using the green sony 18650s that are capable of discharging continuously at 30A and only pulling about 14A in bursts. When I said "know what you are doing" I meant know what kinds of batteries your using, know what kind of coil you have, know how much current you are going to draw, know how much power you're going to get, etc... When you're doing subohm coils you should always know everything about what you're using.
So, subohming CAN be just as safe as normal vaping, you just have to know you're .... and don't buy cheap batteries/mods/atomizers.
I have yet to test the green Sony that you are talking about so I won't comment on whether it is capable of 30 amps. I am curious since I have never seen an 18650 capable of 30 amp discharge so I will order 1 and test it on my FMA PL8. I have tested many batteries and very few live up to their claimed C rating at a safe temp. If it doesn't I will post the graph for all to see. I want to make sure I get the Sony cell you guys are using so if you have a link to someone who sells them it would be appreciated.
this is the info he sent me so i could respond.
http://elektrolumens.com/Batteries/26700/26700-Battery-Specs.html
Woah... now that's a battery. It looks like this battery's (Green Sony 30A) big bad cousin.
This is false^^
Pushing lithium batteries to their limits produces much more failures. My job requires me to deal with electricity and ohms law daily, and I have been using lithium batteries for over 15 years in my hobby, nobody is going to school me. I have seen lithium batteries fail first hand, and sometimes they fail in a blink of an eye. They tend to fail catastrophically when pushed to their limits and very rarely when used well under their limits. We in the RC flight community learned long ago, C ratings are more marketing than reality. Do not trust the C ratings!!!!
With that said, you or anyone else can vape any way you like, freedom of choice is great. Just don't get a Darwin award
well i can only say that one person in this thread was pushing a battery to its limits.......by pushing a battery that has a rating of 30A to 10A isn't that much.....i also work with electricity and circuits on a daily basis and any battery can be pushed to a certain limit without fail.....now yes there are some batteries that are just those ugly ducklings and will fail without any reason whatsoever....thats the chance you take but pushing a battery to 30% of whats its rated to be pushed to isn't all that dangerous really in my eyes....... not all of us sub ohmers are stupid and ......ed when it comes to knowing about the hazards......
I have tested the AW IMR batteries and they were going 21A at full discharge so it was 3A off from its rating.......
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