How Much E Juice Stash is Too Much?

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IDJoel

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The "juice" can sit around much longer than a couple of months without refrigerating it. Keep it cool, yes, but not cold. and it will continue to steep and may even bring out more flavor after 3 months or so.

I keep several 1 liter bottles I made up that last for half a year or more that are tastier than anything I made a month or two ago.
Generally; I agree with your statement. But, I think I would temper it a bit, by adding that not all flavor profiles behave equally.

I agree that many recipes can do just fine, or even benefit, from multi month aging. But there are also some that do have a "best by" quality too. Lemon recipes are my current bane. I love them fresh to about two, maybe three, weeks max. After that they just seem to fade and peter out.

So, all I would caution, is to experiment with smaller batches first, before mixing larger 6 month supplies.;)
 

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If you’ve got more than a month or two supply some of it is going to go nasty on you I suspect if you don’t keep it refrigerated or frozen
Hi amigo. Frozen !! Really? I should have to consider this because probably my last bottle of 100 ml will have to wait nearly 2 months, considering my consumption rate. Ok I freeze it. How should I treat the bottle afterward?
 
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Hi amigo. Frozen !! Really? I should have to consider this because probably my last bottle of 100 ml will have to wait nearly 2 months, considering my consumption rate. Ok I freeze it. How should I treat the bottle afterward?
Nic doesn’t freeze in a freezer. It just gets a bit thicker. The actual decomposition rate and requirements of nic are not well known. The only commonly dispensed info is it degrades in the presence of heat or light. Given that is the only info I have I put it in the place with the least heat and light I have: the freezer.
 

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@theguyhere, @bombastinator, are you two talking about the same thing? Are you talking about finished ready-to-vape e-liquid; or about nicotine concentrate?

Just me, but I would freeze a long-term (>6ish months) supply of nic concentrate; but I wouldn't worry about freezing e-liquid.
 

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@theguyhere, @bombastinator, are you two talking about the same thing? Are you talking about finished ready-to-vape e-liquid; or about nicotine concentrate?

Just me, but I would freeze a long-term (>6ish months) supply of nic concentrate; but I wouldn't worry about freezing e-liquid.
I was talking about nic base
 

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    When I can't fit anymore bottles in my vape cupboard, then know it is time to stop buying for a while, and this doesn't include the 4 bottles got on the go now :)

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    If it takes you 2 months to go through a bottle of nicotine, you are probably fine just keeping it refrigerated. If you want to freeze it instead, that is probably fine, you'll just have to wait a bit for it to warm up so you can use it more easily. But, most nicotine stored for 2 months in a fridge is not going to go bad in my opinion. I have some of my stash frozen, but once I get a bottle out of the freezer, the remainder goes in my fridge until I can use it. You could really do either.

    I think the OP was talking about commercial liquids though, and if so, it's likely unnecessary to refrigerate or freeze unless you don't think you'll get through and vaping that bottle within a year (with the caveat that yes, some eliquids do better and taste better more fresh (citrus seems to be a main culprit as far as "fading out" of flavors. So, it will also depend what e-liquid you have. I kind of see "cold" as a way of slowing down or halting flavor reactions, so lets say you have a bottle you may vape 5 months from now, if you taste it and the flavor is outstanding, that might be a time to refrigerate, as it shows the e-liquid is well enough steeped to give you good results. But I'd say overall, freezing liquids isn't necessary, a cool dry area may be beneficial for storage, and people have various preferences with their eliquids as far as if they keep them even colder, or not.

    I think you may want to do some experimenting on your own, every palate is different. But there's nothing terribly wrong (usually) with regular storage somewhere away from light and heat and that doesn't necessarily have to be the refrigerator.

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    @IDJoel I believe the topic is about commercial e-juice with nic. I have 3 different flavors (100 ml bottles) with 3 mg nic and my consumption is rather low now (10-15 ml / day at most). I live in a tropical region (35-38 °C in summer is the normal average) so @bombastinator advice to put the bottles in the fridge seems a good advice (I would use a box). My confusion: the freezer is for ice cubes and the fridge is for vegetables and similar, right? Then the e-juice should be stored in the fridge.. I think
     

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    @IDJoel I believe the topic is about commercial e-juice with nic. I have 3 different flavors (100 ml bottles) with 3 mg nic and my consumption is rather low now (10-15 ml / day at most). I live in a tropical region (35-38 °C in summer is the normal average) so @bombastinator advice to put the bottles in the fridge seems a good advice (I would use a box). My confusion: the freezer is for ice cubes and the fridge is for vegetables and similar, right? Then the e-juice should be stored in the fridge.. I think
    I was talking about DIY juice nic base. If the only cool dark place you have is your fridge though it won’t be hurt by it. Pre mixed juice generally ages slowly enough that putting it in the fridge is unnecessary.
     

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    I kept 1 - 2 liters of DIY juice steeping when I was vaping 15 - 20ml per day. I am now vaping 5 - 10ml per day so I am trying to work thru my stash and will probably try and keep it in the 500ml to 1 liter range going forward.


    nonsense imo, unless you are keeping it in a warm/hot area of the house and not in the dark. I don't even vape my DIY until it has steeped at least 2 months. Some of the stuff I am vaping currently was mixed in November and it is delicious. Mine steeps in cabinet in a mostly unfinished Michigan block basement (with a few furnace vents in the ceiling) so it is in the 60's down there pretty much year round.



    good idea. I have about 4 liters broke down into 120ml bottles, purged with Private Preserve before putting the caps on, then vacuum sealed and boxed in my chest freezer. I keep 120ml out for mixing in a PET bottle with a yorker cap in my same cabinet I steep my juice in. Most seem to use 30ml bottles but I have had no issues with a 120ml working bottle. It takes me 6 - 9 months to go thru and any color change in the nic is barely noticeable when it runs low, and I can't tell any difference in taste at a 4.5mg final mix.

    Unrefridgerated ejuice has a shelf life of 1 year, on average. Some juices will turn sooner, especially if a lot of flavorings were added, and some will last longer - but one year is about what one can expect and keeping a greater than 6 month supply is likely not recommended due to the jic factor.
     

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    @IDJoel I believe the topic is about commercial e-juice with nic.
    My understanding too. I wasn't sure, if you caught that @bombastinator was talking about DIY nicotine concentrate, and not finished e-liquids.
    I have 3 different flavors (100 ml bottles) with 3 mg nic and my consumption is rather low now (10-15 ml / day at most). I live in a tropical region (35-38 °C in summer is the normal average) so @bombastinator advice to put the bottles in the fridge seems a good advice (I would use a box).
    Warmer environments can accelerate aging. Finished e-liquids will vary widely; depending on the flavor profile. Heavy, strong flavors, like tobaccos and custards can benefit from extended aging, and have great shelf life. While lighter, more delicate/subtle flavors, like some fruits and many florals, can dissipate, become weaker, or even disappear all together in much less time.

    I agree with your reasoning; if you are dealing with 35-38°C temperatures in your normal storage area, then the refrigerator is a better choice (as long as you have no worries about children mistaking it as something for them). I would keep it on/near the top shelf in the fridge (not freezer). Extreme cold can, on rare occasions, cause some separation, layering, or crystalization. Just give it a good shaking before using.
    My confusion: the freezer is for ice cubes and the fridge is for vegetables and similar, right? Then the e-juice should be stored in the fridge..
    Again; I agree. I would not recommend putting your ready-to-vape e-liquid in the freezer. Especially if it is your everyday supply. The increased viscosity (thickness) makes effective shaking difficult without first letting it return to room temperature. Repeated warming/chilling can introduce excessive moisture into the mix.
     

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    Wow. When I started this thread I was sort of hoping folks would chime in on how much juice they keep around. Had no idea this thread would get hijacked and taken in a completely different direction.

    Hey, luckily I didn't get on the thread until after you posted this so I missed my chance to get off topic. ;)

    I keep ten 15ml bottles on my desk to fill tanks from. Plus a bunch of 1, 2, or 4oz bottles on a shelf to fill the small bottles from. 1oz bottles of stuff I don't use much. A couple of 4oz bottles of my favorites. Sometimes 2 or 3 bottles of a flavor if it needs to steep.

    They sit on a shelf away from the window in brown bottles. At 70 degrees because everywhere in my house is the same temp except for the fridge. You don't really get "cool places" in a house with forced air heating. Other than basements I guess.

    I never counted the amount or figured out how long it would last me. Quick approximate count was around 30oz altogether. I get through about 30 to 40mls a week, wife about the same. So around a 4 to 5 month supply.
     
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