How much is too much?

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look30

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I will when you stop scaring people and telling them that no one needs eliquid over 12mg strength.

How about you read and learn and realize everyone is different and we all don't fit into your neat little cubes.

I am not scaring people just stating facts.
I fail to see why a newb should start at such a high concentration just because you think is safe. IF you're a doctor and can prove it then I retract my statements.
I am vaping because I want to quit smoking not to turn it into some extreme sport.

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Well you will all be happy to know that I ordered a bunch of 0mg juice. I will slap my friend when I see her for telling me to order the 36mg juice :) today I have hardly vaped at all cause I was so freaked out by all of the responses to this thread. I sure hope they come quickly! I may head to the mall at lunch to pick up a bottle of lower juice for the meantime but I hate the idea of getting even one more. I think I have enough juice on hand and on order to last over 4 months! Thank you all for your concern! Have a blessed evening.
 

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The member who made post #25 in the attached thread, would not want to read some opinions in this thread:

"............I'm still smoking some analogs every day and I'm using 24mg, 24mg with WTA, and 36mg juice with no nicotine od symptoms. I find the WTA to be a big help, but it is pricier than regular juice and as been said it's probably better not to use it if you don't have a need.........."


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-smoking-vaping-addiction-3.html#post10042022
 

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I have 36 mg 80/20 and the hit is too harsh for me. I am going to order 0 mg 20/80 in the same flavors to mix in.

I read that a cigarette has about 9mg of nicotine in it. If that is true I was smoking about 54-72 mg a day. With the 36 mg and vaping 1.5 ml that is about 54 mg per day. So from my calculations it is about the same (please correct me if I am wrong!!) but I do want to be lower. I really am enjoying the vaping.
Sorry this post got lost in the turmoil, but the answer is definitely...
NO THAT IS NOT TRUE.
:)

Cigarettes have about as much nicotine as you noted, but absorption is only about 10% from smoking.
A good rule of thumb average is about 1mg (give or take about 0.3mg) of absorbed nicotine from a cigarette.
 

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While I agree with pretty much everything wv2win said in some of his posts I do think there is one place I would disagree...
I do think that with some of the modern devices we might be getting more nicotine.

Basically, the more vapor you get, the more nicotine you're going to get.

More power (higher voltage/wattage and/or lower resistance) is going to provide more vapor, and probably more nicotine.
Unless of course you are using that extra power to take much shorter drags.
:)

How much more nicotine might a person be getting? Hard to say.
But I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that the more juice you go through the more vapor you probably made.
 

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Here is something I have posted multiple times.
Hope it helps..

E-Liquid vs Cigarette

One of the most common questions about an electric cig relates to which e-liquid nicotine strength is equivalent to a particular kind of cigarette that a person smokes. To better answer this question, it is better to understand how much nicotine is contained in the E-Liquid you are inhaling.

We define the density of nicotine inside E-Liquid as the followings:
- Non nicotine: 0 mg nicotine, which equivalents to No Nicotine.
- Low density: 6 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Ultra Light Strength Cigarettes.
- Medium density: 12 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Medium Strength Cigarettes.
- High density: 18 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Regular Strength Cigarettes.
- XHigh density: 24 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Strong Cigarettes.
- XXHigh density: 36 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Very Strong Cigarettes.
- XXXHigh density: 48 mg nicotine, which equivalents to Super Strong Cigarettes.

The nicotine density listed for e-liquid is the number of milligrams of nicotine per milliliter in the E-Liquid. That means a 10ml bottle of 24mg nicotine e-liquid would have 240mg of nicotine in it (24mg x 10ml). Likewise, a 30ml bottle of 24mg e-liquid would have 720mg of nicotine in it (24mg x 30ml).
Different brands of cigarettes vary in terms of their nicotine content. Normally nicotine constitutes approximately 0.6-3.0% of dry weight of tobacco in a cigarette. Obviously a longer 100ml cigarette has more nicotine in it than a standard or king size 84ml cigarette. For the most part, though, here is, for example, the amount of nicotine that is in a typical 84ml tobacco cigarette:

If you smoke Regular cigarettes, like a Marlboro Red, for instance, there are approximately 1.2mg of nicotine in each cigarette, or 24mg of nicotine per pack (1.2mg x 20 cigarettes).

If you smoke Light cigarettes, like a Marlboro Light, for instance, there are approximately 0.7mg of nicotine in each cigarette, or 14mg of nicotine per pack (0.7mg x 20 cigarettes).

If you smoke Ultra Light cigarettes, like a Marlboro Ultra Light, for instance, there are approximately 0.5mg of nicotine in each cigarette, or 10mg of nicotine per pack (0.5mg x 20 cigarettes).

When you refill your e-cartridges with e-liquid, you may need to know how much nicotine is contained in your refilling e-liquid. There are approximately 20 drops of e-liquid per milliliter. So, using our 24mg nicotine e-liquid once again as an example, there would be 1.2mg of nicotine per drop (24mg/20 drops). So, if you put three drops of e-liquid onto a e-cartridge (or directly onto the atomizer for those of you that direct-drip), that means you will be taking in 3.6mg of nicotine from the time you start vaping until you top off again.

The amount as well as the feeling of the nicotine absorbed by the body from electronic cigarette smoking depends on many factors, including the density of the nicotine in e-liquid, the eclectronic cigarette vaporing quantity, the smoking frequency and timing, and the smoking inhaling respiration.

Actually the nicotine in the E-Liquid can not be absorbed completely by the smoker. For instance, if you inhale 1 ml of E-Liquid which contains 24 mg of nicotine, that does not mean that you absorb all the 24 mg of nicotine. You may only absorb about 40-65% of the nicotine according to your personal smoking habit.

It should be noted that, although it is highly addictive, no studies have shown nicotine to be a carcinogen. It is simply the fix that cigarette smokers crave. It is recommended that those who have a demonstrated sensitivity to nicotine, are pregnant or breastfeeding or who have unstable heart conditions, should discuss the use of any E-Liquid with a doctor before using.
 

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Sorry this post got lost in the turmoil, but the answer is definitely...
NO THAT IS NOT TRUE.
:)

Cigarettes have about as much nicotine as you noted, but absorption is only about 10% from smoking.
A good rule of thumb average is about 1mg (give or take about 0.3mg) of absorbed nicotine from a cigarette.

Thank you. I was going to post that question again because it got lost in the shuffle. :)
 
I smoked Black & Mild Cigars. 3 to 4 a day, which I'm told was about100-200 mg of nicotine each cigar. My wife started vaping and so default I did too. I cross smoked for about a month. Less smoking more vaping till about a month ago I completely quit. I haven't tried anything stronger than 18mg. I vape about 4 maybe 5 ml a day now. An ex cigar/pipe smoker I know of gets his in 34mg but I think it would be too much for me now.
 

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While I agree with pretty much everything wv2win said in some of his posts I do think there is one place I would disagree...
I do think that with some of the modern devices we might be getting more nicotine.

Basically, the more vapor you get, the more nicotine you're going to get.

More power (higher voltage/wattage and/or lower resistance) is going to provide more vapor, and probably more nicotine.
Unless of course you are using that extra power to take much shorter drags.
:)

How much more nicotine might a person be getting? Hard to say.
But I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that the more juice you go through the more vapor you probably made.

You may be right that better powered models provide more vapor, thus more nicotine. I doubt it is a significant difference, however, in the amount of nicotine. I use to recommend 24mg - 30mg for a new person unless they were like the OP and only smoked 8 or so analogs a day. I've changed that to 18mg - 24mg based on the polls I have read, supplier comments and just talking with new vapers.

As many of us recommend, it's best to have a range of nic strengths so you can adjust it and not be stuck with too low or too high nic.
 
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