How often to replace or CLEAN subtank NANO Coils?

[Hotwire]

I've ran 4 tanks of juice (SJ Eclipse 50/50 PG/VG) through my .5ohm coil so far and still going strong.

Taste dropping off a little, but not bad enough to make me want to change out or clean yet. I can see the wick has gone darker.

Obviously I will change the coil head when the taste REALLY deteriorates or I get dry / burned hits.

1. How long do they last on average for you? How many ML / full tanks?

2. Also with my old ego-t and ego-c atties, I used to put them in boiling water, blow through and let dry without even dry burning and they would be good to go again for ages.

3. Can I just take the kanger OCC vertical coil heads out and do this?

I ask as they use cotton wicks unlike the ego-c atties. The EVOD uses cotton wicks too and when I tried to clean one of these the wick just came apart so I don't bother cleaning with my evod now, just pop in a new head.

I am cool with cleaning the subtank nano occ coils if it is possible without the wick coming apart, but if not I'll just pop in a new one as not the type to bother with self re-wicking etc, too much hassle...

4. Also noticed not necessary to vape them at max Wattage and prefer around 23W-25W. Am I right in assuming lower temp = wicks and coil will last longer?

5. Also as with Ego atties - lighter juice = better for atty and darker viscous juices = not os good for atty on subanks?

Cheers.

HW

 

[EBates]

When I was vaping factory coil heads I'd replace them when the taste was off and/or the vapor production decreased.
Cotton wicked coils cannot be effectively cleaned. This is due to the burned on juice deposited on the coil. Yeah soaking/boiling will clean the wick, if it isn't burned too badly but will not generally perform as well flavor or vapor production wise.

 

[gadgetkeith]

it all realy depends on style of vaping and different juices some like the darker and realy sweet types can be known as coil killers ie they gunk coils pretty quick

ive had some juice that will kill a new coil pretty quick ie a few tanks etc

and had other flavors that seem to go on and on ie 150-200 mls through some coils

some coils may only last a few days where as others can last for weeks

there aint realy any hard and fast rules some times if you love a certain juice and flavor but find it tends to kill ya coils pretty quick you either accept the fact and replace you coils more often or try and find another flavor thats is easier on your coils that you realy like

some coils can be easily cleaned and rewicked where as others can be a pain if you are not interested in that side of things then unfortunatly its a new coil head

hope this helps

 

[Hotwire]

Okay thanks guys. I saw a video by Les on youtube about taking out the subtank vertical OCC coil wicking material, cleaning and then dry burning them while blowing on the coil and it looks easy enough and looks like it works really well. I'm a tad too lazy to order the Japanese cotton from ebay and then do the job with tweezers and a toothpick etc.... Also I know at least 1 in 10 attempts I might get a bit of leakage or dry hits too....

I guess I'll wait until flavour turns low and then clean the tank but use a new coil. At around £3.50 for about 2 - 3 weeks that is acceptable enough for me to not bother re-wicking etc.

I only vape half a 3ml tank a day, sometimes a whole tank and won't use dark atty killer juices, so yeah based on experience so far I shoul be getting about 2 weeks from them, that's good enough.

Um another question.... I vape 20VG 80PG Hangsen RY4 at 6mg Nic on my daytime set up which is an EVOD on an ego battery. It's a warm vape and the flavour is good.

I vape zero nic juices in the evenings on the CF4 and Subtank Nano so far finding my Spacejam Eclipse 50/50 PG/VG a good warm vape if I want at 30W or a nice tast cooler vape betwen 23-25W and the juice performs well with the tank.

My worry is I've ordered some Hanseng RY4 at zero nic for the subtank (tried a bit of 6mg and too hot and nic buzz blew my head off) and am worried that on the .5ohm coil it will be too hot It should give good coil life as very light color and 80% PG but subtank juices tend to be at least 50% VG.

Will it be too hot? Should I use a lower wattage? Should I use a heavy PG percent juice at all on a .5ohm coil?

Would anyone here vape 80PG 20VG juice on a subtank? Will it be too dry and hot?

I can of course just add half RY4 and half Spacejam to give it some more VG if that will be the case. Or add some pure VG. Or if that is the case just use the RY4 for my ego and evod and next time order higher VG content RY4. Just thought I'd try the Hanseng RY4 in the subtank literally as so cheap for 4 bottles and free delivery and knowing that if it doesn't work I'll have juice for my ego+evod for ages as only go through 1ml a day on that and can mix the zero nic with some 6mg I usually use on it as 3mg is enough for me anyhow.

So - 80PG/20VG - would you vape it at all on a subtank on .5ohm coil? Should I instead try it on the 1.2ohm coil I also have at betwen 15-25 Watts? Would that be better?

Cheers

 

[Flt Simulation]

The problem is that you will never clean those Kanger OCC coils very good if you can't dry burn it after running clean water through the coil head. If you do try dry burning the coil, you will just burn up the cotton wicking in the process.

That is why I am happier using something like a Kanger Protank 3 or Aerotank (at least the wick in those little coil heads is silica and can be dry burned over and over).

Someone posted that you can actually replace the cotton in those Kanger OCC coil heads, but I don't know how that would be done.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

I have the subtank mini, they use the same type of coils, I bought 5 when I first got my tank in I think it was July and I'm still using the original ones, search youtube on how to rewick subtank mini coils, If you pick up some kanthal you can also rebuild them, once you get the hang of it it's super easy 5 wraps of 24 guage on a 7/64th drill bit gives about 6.4 ohms which is about my sweetspot for flavor and vapor.

You'll save tonnes of cash rebuilding them and if you do it right you'll get better vapor production and they will be able to handle higher wattage than the factory ones.

 

[Two_Bears]

I've ran 4 tanks of juice (SJ Eclipse 50/50 PG/VG) through my .5ohm coil so far and still going strong.

Taste dropping off a little, but not bad enough to make me want to change out or clean yet. I can see the wick has gone darker.

Obviously I will change the coil head when the taste REALLY deteriorates or I get dry / burned hits.

1. How long do they last on average for you? How many ML / full tanks?

2. Also with my old ego-t and ego-c atties, I used to put them in boiling water, blow through and let dry without even dry burning and they would be good to go again for ages.

3. Can I just take the kanger OCC vertical coil heads out and do this?

I ask as they use cotton wicks unlike the ego-c atties. The EVOD uses cotton wicks too and when I tried to clean one of these the wick just came apart so I don't bother cleaning with my evod now, just pop in a new head.

I am cool with cleaning the subtank nano occ coils if it is possible without the wick coming apart, but if not I'll just pop in a new one as not the type to bother with self re-wicking etc, too much hassle...

4. Also noticed not necessary to vape them at max Wattage and prefer around 23W-25W. Am I right in assuming lower temp = wicks and coil will last longer?

5. Also as with Ego atties - lighter juice = better for atty and darker viscous juices = not os good for atty on subanks?

Cheers.

HW

That depends on the ejuice you are using, wattage, and how much power you use. The short answer is "I have no idea"

It is possible to rebuild the coil heads for the Kanger sub tanks.

Rip Trippers made a stupid simple vid showing how to rebuild the OCC heads.

 

[Hotwire]

Meh I'll just chuck em out and buy new ones when they go bad. Seen youtube viddys and can re-wick easy, takes about a couple minutes but me feel that too much like hard work. At around £3 a coil and a coil lasting me two weeks, plus I only go through 40ML in about a month, so another £25 for that, I'm still ahead on money vs cigs and much healthier....

 

[Two_Bears]

Meh I'll just chuck em out and buy new ones when they go bad. Seen youtube viddys and can re-wick easy, takes about a couple minutes but me feel that too much like hard work. At around £3 a coil and a coil lasting me two weeks, plus I only go through 40ML in about a month, so another £25 for that, I'm still ahead on money vs cigs and much healthier....

Yes but if you wrap your coils you can rebuild the coil and wick it for less than 10 cents. In my Subtank Nano I had one of my coils last for two months. Remove the wick and install another wick when the flavor tastes off.

 

[Bacong]

why not just get the subtank RTA?

 

[Two_Bears]

why not just get the subtank RTA?

The Subtank RBA doesn't fit in the Nano. The little Nano is only 19 mm in diameter. The RBA was made for the Subtank Mini. That tank is 22 mm in diameter.

 

[Bacong]

ah lame

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Meh I'll just chuck em out and buy new ones when they go bad. Seen youtube viddys and can re-wick easy, takes about a couple minutes but me feel that too much like hard work. At around £3 a coil and a coil lasting me two weeks, plus I only go through 40ML in about a month, so another £25 for that, I'm still ahead on money vs cigs and much healthier....

The ones I make are much better than the factory ones, better flavor, better vapor, sure they suck back the juice but I DIY and even though I go through about 10ml a day it's still cheaper than going through 40ml of store bought lols.

 

[Hotwire]

Yeah these subtanks are tearing through 3ml tanks of Suicide bunny juice in like an hour of just three ten draw sessions..... like 30 good draws and it's empty tank already...

Holeee sheets!

Maybe I should use the 1.2 ohm coils and higher PG juice and lower watts... higher PG juice is cheaper than these heavy VG American super gourmet juices and the lower ohm coil and less watts should get through less per hour

Keep the .5ohm coils and 'super juices' for special occasions and get me tootle puffling on Hangseng and Liqua and Halo at 1.2ohms and less watts....

1.2ohms + 80PG / 20VG juice at about 15 watts should be okay right?

I think sub ohming 80PG juice on the .5 coils would be too hot...?

Cheers

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Yeah these subtanks are tearing through 3ml tanks of Suicide bunny juice in like an hour of just three ten draw sessions..... like 30 good draws and it's empty tank already...

Holeee sheets!

Maybe I should use the 1.2 ohm coils and higher PG juice and lower watts... higher PG juice is cheaper than these heavy VG American super gourmet juices and the lower ohm coil and less watts should get through less per hour

Keep the .5ohm coils and 'super juices' for special occasions and get me tootle puffling on Hangseng and Liqua and Halo at 1.2ohms and less watts....

1.2ohms + 80PG / 20VG juice at about 15 watts should be okay right?

I think sub ohming 80PG juice on the .5 coils would be too hot...?

Cheers

Probably more in the 18w range for flavor but close enough.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I get great flavor and a good amount of vapor by making a single 27 gauge Kanthal 1.2 ohm coil and feeding it 13 watts.

The atty I use is either an authentic Kayfun Lite-Plus or a Lemo 2 ... with mouth to lung vaping

The DIY juice I make is 60% VG / 40% PG
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I only burn through about 6-7 ml per day

BTW ... I just ordered a Subtank Nano, so I will be using that with the OCC 1.2 ohm coils and 13 watts.

 

[Hotwire]

Yeah I'm thinking for high PG juices it's going to be around 12 watts on the 1.2ohm coil. The gourmet juices are nice but I'm not going through 10ml a day at .5 ohms that's ridiculously expensive and uneccessary...

Salesman at my 2nd least favorite local BnM already trying to get me from a new CF4 I just bought to a 70W device and lower ohms. That's taking the mick seeing he knows I only just bought the CF4 and subtanks (from a different store.)

Erm, spend more money on a 70W device and then and burn my juice at a rate of 3ml tanks every 30 minutes, instead of in a an hour, erm... no I don't think so thanks very much....

I see how people get hooked on that but I'm going to condition myself to get used to the 1.2 ohm coils at lower watts and mid range juices instead of top drawer stuff. Or get some top drawer stuff but get some dripping atties and use it as a treat for a few drips per evening only...

Some of my coworkers are so into the sub ohming they go through over 10ml a day.... each to their own but not for me....

 

[DanJiblets]

I suggest you grab a subtank mini and get used to the rba. It's super easy and provides pretty good flavor. You'll be able to dry burn and rewick whenever you please for a fraction of the cost. I do this and just keep some occs on hand for if I'm lazy or need a coil while I'm at work etc...I have a couple extra rba I keep ready to go also.