how safe is 0 nic?

[NewJoizy]

What are the exact indregidents of the 0 nic carts/juice, I'm liking some of the wowvapor juices/carts but in 0 nic, are there any risks at all with vaping 0 nic?

how does it affect contact with the skin? (lips,finger tips, etc)

The acute oral toxicity of propylene glycol is very low, and large quantities are required to cause perceptible health damage in humans; propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid (a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy), acetic acid (handled by ethanol-metabolism), lactic acid (a normal acid generally abundant during digestion) [9] , and propionaldehyde [10] [11].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

 

[CtryBoy]

Only risk to me would be if I had a nic fit and smoked an analog.

Jury of course still out on how 'safe' this stuff is, but my money's on safe enough.

Think there are some issues with certain flavors/blends causing sores, irritation, etc if you get too much on lips or in mouth. Think most attribute it to whatever flavor ingredients are used possibly reaction to the PG. If I went 0 nic I'd stick with 100%VG cause I know it and it doesnt irritate mouth or throat.

Again only catch to your question is unless the zero nic is a pasifier for analogs you no longer have our best case for getting them off our backs using this to get our nic instead of analogs. But then again if none of the liquid had nicotine, would the FDA still want to ban them???

 

[NewJoizy]

Only risk to me would be if I had a nic fit and smoked an analog.

Jury of course still out on how 'safe' this stuff is, but my money's on safe enough.

Think there are some issues with certain flavors/blends causing sores, irritation, etc if you get too much on lips or in mouth. Think most attribute it to whatever flavor ingredients are used possibly reaction to the PG. If I went 0 nic I'd stick with 100%VG cause I know it and it doesnt irritate mouth or throat.

never had good luck with vg, was always a pain in the .... to vape cause of the thickness and gave me bad scratchy throat and weezing hmm...

 

[CtryBoy]

PV's are personal vapers so everything must be adjusted to individual preferences. I read the forums and choose to start with VG. Yes it's a pain especially fresh from fridge and a tad sweet sometimes. Still piecing together kit to fill cartomizers easily with VG since it is so thick, but on the other hand I think PG is too thin and make an even bigger mess with it than I do with the VG. DIYDDIYD

And as always around here..........to each his own whether that be way to vape, vaporizer, or juice. If it helps you live a little healthier happier then keep on vaping on.

 

[sooperdrave]

can always cut the vg with pga to thin it out.

 

[mixitman]

PV's are personal vapers so everything must be adjusted to individual preferences. I read the forums and choose to start with VG. Yes it's a pain especially fresh from fridge and a tad sweet sometimes. Still piecing together kit to fill cartomizers easily with VG since it is so thick, but on the other hand I think PG is too thin and make an even bigger mess with it than I do with the VG. DIYDDIYD

And as always around here..........to each his own whether that be way to vape, vaporizer, or juice. If it helps you live a little healthier happier then keep on vaping on.

No reason to keep in the fridge.. Cool, dark place is good enuf

 

[CtryBoy]

can always cut the vg with pga to thin it out.

Got a small bottle just for that, but gotta stop drinking it if I'm gonna thin my juice with it. Good news is I didnt buy the big bottle so cant get myself in too much trouble.

Yeah fridge is really only for longer term storage. There is no such thing as a COOL place in Texas at the moment. Oh and for when I was a newb and didnt know any better. Wait how long are you STILL a newb around here anyway. I swear I learn something new everyday.

 

[NewJoizy]

ok so 0 nic has no known ill effects to skin contact? the nicotine is what people are careful with correct? pg is mostly plant product and artificial food flavoring/coloring? I should just go grab a bottle of food flavoring and peppermint schnapps and mix them together or something instead of paying for 0 nic juice?

 

[keveck]

Propylene Glycol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG) are both humectants, and may dry out your skin or cause irritation. Also, some people experience things such as acne or itching.

Safe? It appears to be. Both have been used for many, many years(LONG before e-cigs) with no permanent effects of note.

Nicotine is the ingredient that you should worry about for skin contact. You could bathe in PG and it wouldn't hurt you. There isn't usually any artificial coloring in e-liquid.

If you wanted to, you could buy a bottle of glycerin (just make sure it's food grade or pharmaceutical grade) and add peppermint schnapps to it and it would work, but not very well. You would probably have better luck using concentrated peppermint flavoring, BUT it is hard to find a flavoring that would work well in a cartomizer/atomizer. Look for a flavoring that has no sugar and no oil in it (or flavors derived from oils like peppermint oil). You most likely will not find a flavoring like this in any retail store.

And if you're asking "Why no sugar/oil?", sugar burns onto the atomizer, and oil will clog/cling to the atomizer.

 

[CtryBoy]

Probably would be as cheap and easier to get your favorite flavor (doubler?) then add to VG ($4/4oz) you get from pharmacy or PG ($24/gal)you get from Feed Store. VG would be for sweet and vapor. PG to thin. Concentrated flavor will go a long way.

And yes skin contact is an issue with nicotine especially some of the higher strengths for the DIY guys. Also proper ventilation, general safety measures for safe handling. Lots of fun I tell ya.

With the zero nic, main concern would be any allergic reaction to VG or PG or components of flavoring. Oh yeah like keveck said if you buy it for vaping make sure you get the pure stuff. USP is the mark you are looking for, this means there isnt anything added that could be hazardous, its just glycerin or glycol.

 

[NewJoizy]

Propylene Glycol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG) are both humectants, and may dry out your skin or cause irritation. Also, some people experience things such as acne or itching.

Safe? It appears to be. Both have been used for many, many years(LONG before e-cigs) with no permanent effects of note.

Nicotine is the ingredient that you should worry about for skin contact. You could bathe in PG and it wouldn't hurt you. There isn't usually any artificial coloring in e-liquid.

If you wanted to, you could buy a bottle of glycerin (just make sure it's food grade or pharmaceutical grade) and add peppermint schnapps to it and it would work, but not very well. You would probably have better luck using concentrated peppermint flavoring, BUT it is hard to find a flavoring that would work well in a cartomizer/atomizer. Look for a flavoring that has no sugar and no oil in it (or flavors derived from oils like peppermint oil). You most likely will not find a flavoring like this in any retail store.

And if you're asking "Why no sugar/oil?", sugar burns onto the atomizer, and oil will clog/cling to the atomizer.

Probably would be as cheap and easier to get your favorite flavor (doubler?) then add to VG ($4/4oz) you get from pharmacy or PG ($24/gal)you get from Feed Store. VG would be for sweet and vapor. PG to thin. Concentrated flavor will go a long way.

And yes skin contact is an issue with nicotine especially some of the higher strengths for the DIY guys. Also proper ventilation, general safety measures for safe handling. Lots of fun I tell ya.

With the zero nic, main concern would be any allergic reaction to VG or PG or components of flavoring. Oh yeah like keveck said if you buy it for vaping make sure you get the pure stuff. USP is the mark you are looking for, this means there isnt anything added that could be hazardous, its just glycerin or glycol.

sweet thank you guys! Exactly the info I was looking for!

The acute oral toxicity of propylene glycol is very low, and large quantities are required to cause perceptible health damage in humans; propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid (a normal part of the glucose-metabolism process, readily converted to energy), acetic acid (handled by ethanol-metabolism), lactic acid (a normal acid generally abundant during digestion) [9] , and propionaldehyde [10] [11].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol