Generally, we don't mess with the plug pin as you call it. When you get a bunk carto that is new out of the box, the best procedure is as follows. Step 1. If you're getting weak or no vapor on a new carto and you know it's full of juice it generally means that the filler is not seated at the bottom of the carto shell. In many cases pushing the filler down gently with a large McDonalds straw will solve the problem and the carto will work fine from that point on. If the carto isn't firing at all, then change batteries and see if it fires then. If it doesn't, then and only then you may need to raise the center post on the cartomizer just very slightly so it makes good contact on the battery center post. If after this procedure it still doesn't work then you may want to take it apart and trouble shoot it. Using the detailed instructions I have provided in this thread, remove the filler. Do not remove the center tube. Clean the inside of the blank carto and then dry burn the coil. After 5-7 dry burns you should see the coil glow cherry red. This tells you that the carto and coil are good. The only reasons for the carto not working is the filler or the connection to the battery. Reinsert filler and refill as per the detailed instructions and you should be good to go.
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WONDERFUL tutorial. Do you have any experience with Boge 2.0 Cartos? If so is there any element of your process explained here that could be applied to those? I threw one out the window of my car today on my way back from MO because i did not think they could be revived. I am back to vaping after a 8-10 month affair with Death stix. So its safe to say i am out of the loop. Especially when it comes to cartos! 
Mohawkz will be able to give you a definitive answer but I do know the ability to rebuild these GO-GO's and similar types are due to them having a horizontal bottom coil. I may be mistaken but I believe the Boge 2.0's use a vertical coil system.
You can tell for sure by looking inside the cart with the soft tip removed. If you see a wire coming out the top of the center tube (and usually curved in a hook fashion that rests in the filler) then they have vertical coils. THe whole rebuild principle as I have used it is based on the ability to remove and replace the filler material.
It may be possible but I don't know how as the coil wire on verticals have the aforementioned hook out the top that is held in place by its attachment to the filler.
You can tell for sure by looking inside the cart with the soft tip removed. If you see a wire coming out the top of the center tube (and usually curved in a hook fashion that rests in the filler) then they have vertical coils. THe whole rebuild principle as I have used it is based on the ability to remove and replace the filler material.
It may be possible but I don't know how as the coil wire on verticals have the aforementioned hook out the top that is held in place by its attachment to the filler.
WONDERFUL tutorial. Do you have any experience with Boge 2.0 Cartos? If so is there any element of your process explained here that could be applied to those? I threw one out the window of my car today on my way back from MO because i did not think they could be revived. I am back to vaping after a 8-10 month affair with Death stix. So its safe to say i am out of the loop. Especially when it comes to cartos!
There is no way to remove the filler from a boge carto. It is a vertical coil cartomizer. I and others have had good luck cleaning a boge cartomizer using an ultrasonic cleaner. I usually get 2 weeks out of a boge. I clean it in hot water and an ultrasonic cleaner and I can usually get another week or two out of it before I throw it away. I save up half a dozen or so sealed up in a plastic baggie so they won't dry out and clean them all at once.
I tried both the flush then dry method and the rebuild method this weekend. While flushing then drying method worked fairly well, I found that the cartos now take less juice then before the cleaning before they hit the full point. I will test this further but there ya go. As for the rebuild, I can not emphasize enough to have the proper sized straw that fits over the center tube. Sadly I haven't be able to obtain one in time so i was forced to use a juice pouch straw. Had to widen the end more then a bit just to get it to fit over the center tube. While it works, somewhat, I have to be very careful on how tight I wrap the fillers. The cartos work but I am still wary I might have hosed my self. So as a warning, get the right straw size. YMMV.
Getting less juice in after a cleaning is pretty normal. I believe that it is bacause the filler is compressed during the cleaning and drying process. But what I've also found is that once the filler is saturated with fresh juice, it will tend to re-expand back to it's original density and then refills and top offs fill any voids. The biggest reason for falure of a carto to work properly after a rebuild is that the filler is not positioned at the bottom of the carto where the coil is. If you are getting a weak hit after a rebuild, push the filler down with a large soda straw (McDonalds works great). I also never try to vape on a freshly filled, rebuilt carto right after I filled it. I let it sit upright on the battery end overnight. This is so the juice will have an opportunity to saturate the filler completely and allow the filler to return to it's original shape. Usually in the morning, I can add another 10 or so drops to the carto I filled the evening before. 9 times out of 10 I get a very good, like new carto using this method.
Not that Mohawkz needs any backup but just to chime in, I too have found that a rebuilt carto seems to flesh back out after a first fill post cleaning. When were all trying to figure out the process to get the best absorption rates, I too started filling rebuilds at least a day before I needed them.
I also now do that with the new blanks I have (versus my preferred pre-filled). After that soaking in period, I also can add 10 or so additional drops to a rebuild so despite its contraction in the rebuild process, it appears that the filler/batting does stretch back out somewhat.
I also now do that with the new blanks I have (versus my preferred pre-filled). After that soaking in period, I also can add 10 or so additional drops to a rebuild so despite its contraction in the rebuild process, it appears that the filler/batting does stretch back out somewhat.
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I just experienced my first completely DOA LR go-cart. Turns out they didn't even connect the center pin to the coil. I got it to fire twice by wriggling the center pin around with tweezers a bit, after that, no dice. Very frustrating when such a pricey cart arrives as a useless metal tube that just wasted two thirds of a day or so's juice.
The notcigs guy told me that I should not have to mess with the pin. Funny how I can't get it to charge with out pulling it up a tad. I bought another kit from Nhaler.com that doesn't seem to have that issue... at least not yet.
It pisses me off because I love my GoGo.
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It pisses me off because I love my GoGo.
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This isn't the best picture in the world but shows why I use Mohawkz method to clean whenever I can. The top picture is of a coil I used the standard hot water flush repeatedly (4 separate flushes) and the vapor was still weak so I disasembled too far! 
Note the prong of wire on the left of the coil. That is the actual thickness of the whole wire. As you can see then, the actual coil proper is still at least twice as thick with gunk even after the hot water flushing.
If I hadn't been so aggressive, I could have dry burned after taking out the filler and had a coil that looks like this:
Yes the tube was removed from a carto that had been rebuilt twice already to make a dripper but you can see the difference despite the glare of the tubing what a difference a dry burn will make for the GO-cartos. Even well used ones!
Note the prong of wire on the left of the coil. That is the actual thickness of the whole wire. As you can see then, the actual coil proper is still at least twice as thick with gunk even after the hot water flushing.
If I hadn't been so aggressive, I could have dry burned after taking out the filler and had a coil that looks like this:
Yes the tube was removed from a carto that had been rebuilt twice already to make a dripper but you can see the difference despite the glare of the tubing what a difference a dry burn will make for the GO-cartos. Even well used ones!
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Good luck with your first attempt. Post here or contact me if you have any issues. I'll try and walk you through the process as best I know how.
First attempt... I only did one so far... the getting the batting back in is the easy part!! LOL
Posted in the All things go-go thread.. but thought I would post here because I got buried
Ok, after I removed the filling I rinsed out the cartridge. Blew on it till no more water came out the battery end. Did a dry burn... and that is where I run into a little problem. I cannot see any coil with the center tube in the way! I gave it 5 or 6 quick burns (till I saw no more smoke coming up) and on the last couple burns I could smell burnt plastic with the smoke. I rinsed it out really good, blew out all the water, re-assembled, filled and it does work very well..
BUT... I still have a small hint of burnt plastic taste. I am vaping a very strong tasting juice so it covers some of it...
Second one I could see the coil but after cleaning it had a funky burnt taste too....
Good luck with your first attempt. Post here or contact me if you have any issues. I'll try and walk you through the process as best I know how.
First attempt... I only did one so far... the getting the batting back in is the easy part!! LOL
Posted in the All things go-go thread.. but thought I would post here because I got buried
Ok, after I removed the filling I rinsed out the cartridge. Blew on it till no more water came out the battery end. Did a dry burn... and that is where I run into a little problem. I cannot see any coil with the center tube in the way! I gave it 5 or 6 quick burns (till I saw no more smoke coming up) and on the last couple burns I could smell burnt plastic with the smoke. I rinsed it out really good, blew out all the water, re-assembled, filled and it does work very well..
BUT... I still have a small hint of burnt plastic taste. I am vaping a very strong tasting juice so it covers some of it...
Second one I could see the coil but after cleaning it had a funky burnt taste too....
Quote Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
Good luck with your first attempt. Post here or contact me if you have any issues. I'll try and walk you through the process as best I know how.
First attempt... I only did one so far... the getting the batting back in is the easy part!! LOL
Posted in the All things go-go thread.. but thought I would post here because I got buried
Ok, after I removed the filling I rinsed out the cartridge. Blew on it till no more water came out the battery end. Did a dry burn... and that is where I run into a little problem. I cannot see any coil with the center tube in the way! I gave it 5 or 6 quick burns (till I saw no more smoke coming up) and on the last couple burns I could smell burnt plastic with the smoke. I rinsed it out really good, blew out all the water, re-assembled, filled and it does work very well..
BUT... I still have a small hint of burnt plastic taste. I am vaping a very strong tasting juice so it covers some of it...
Second one I could see the coil but after cleaning it had a funky burnt taste too....
I've wracked my brain trying to come up with an answer to your problem. I have no definitive answer at this point in time but here is what i can contribute to the dialogue. When I take the filler out and dry burn, i usually dry burn for a good 4 or 5 seconds each time. I can always see a bright orange glow. sometimes on the first dry burn and other times not until the seventh dry burn. I can also feel the base of the carto heat up substantially. After proper reassembly(IE: insuring the filler reaches all the way to the base of the carto where the coil is) and filling the carto the night before, letting it sit overnight, I've never had a burnt taste to the carto.
The only times I've had a burnt taste to my carto was when the filler was not wicking properly and was dry at the base where the coil is. That's when I determined that filling and letting them sit overnight so the juice can properly distribute was the best method. After filling and setting a while the burnt taste went away. I don't think horizontal coil cartos are like regular cartos where once you get a burnt taste it is with the carto forever.
Hmmm, I wonder if maybe I was not burning enough? I only hit it for a second or so each time... then as soon as I saw a little glow in the bottom I quit. Maybe it is just the funky gunk half burnt off and I am tasting that. I am gonna give it another shot tonight... I dont plan on giving up on this! LOL..
Thanks so much for answering.... !!! Where you dont have a definitive thought, then it is probably my techinique and fear of over burning the wick.
I sure appreciate "the go-go nation!"
Thanks so much for answering.... !!! Where you dont have a definitive thought, then it is probably my techinique and fear of over burning the wick.
I sure appreciate "the go-go nation!"
Here's something to try. Take the filler out of the "burnt" cartos. Dry burn until you see a nice cherry-red glow. With my glasses on I can actually see the coil wrapped around the wick and glowing red hot. Then drip a couple-three drops of juice down the inside edge of the carto wall. Put on a tip and try it. Does it still taste burnt? If not, go through the motions of reinserting the filler. I always have the inside cotton wrapper just a hair protruding from the bottom of the filler as I believe that is where the coil gets it's juice from. My theory is that the juice wicks to the side into the cotton from the polyfill and down the cotton to the coil. Fill with juice and let it sit for a night and then top it off in the morning. see what you get then.
In my pictures showing the rebuild process you can actually see some of the cotton batting burnt at the base but yet, none of these tasted burnt or underperformed after a rebuild.
One other thought. You are certain that the filler is absolutely dry prior to filling? I do know that if you are vaping mostly water with a hot carto it will taste burnt and funky. The polyfill takes longer that one would think to dry completely as the filler is designed to retain moisture. In fact, that's it's job.
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That very well might be part of the problem right there... I blew thru it till nothing came out the bottom then filled it and let it sit. Maybe too much water content mixed with the juice.....
Will try again tonight and let ya'll know how it goes tommorrow.
Thanks so much Mohawkx!
I want to dedicate a cart to dripping so I can try out new liquids. I'm sort of not quite understanding what I need to do. Do I have to cut the cartomizer down or can I just leave it how it is? Does the center tube need to be removed? If so, how is that done without damaged the atomizer? And if the center tube is removed wouldn't the liquid drip through to the battery connection and cause a short?
Sorry if this is obvious to other, but I'm new.
Sorry if this is obvious to other, but I'm new.
I want to dedicate a cart to dripping so I can try out new liquids. I'm sort of not quite understanding what I need to do. Do I have to cut the cartomizer down or can I just leave it how it is? Does the center tube need to be removed? If so, how is that done without damaged the atomizer? And if the center tube is removed wouldn't the liquid drip through to the battery connection and cause a short?
Sorry if this is obvious to other, but I'm new.
Just remove the filler carefully from a used carto(easy to do if the filler is completely wet). Keep the center tube in place. Now drip down the side of it 2 or 3 drops. You should be good to go. I cut my gocart wall down to one inch just for convenience sake and looks but you can leave it the full length.
Just for giggles and continuity, after you remove the filler, dry burn until you get the cherry glow. Now you know the coil is good. Then drip 2 or 3 drops and taste. THe flavor/vapor and TH should be there. IF the filler is reinserted properly, there is no reason your gocart doesn't taste almost as good as direct dripping.
Ok... first one is in the oven drying...
I dry burned till there was no more funky odor. Seems that cleaning gunk off the coil stinks! (hehehehe) I got it good and hot, and did it a couple more times till it didnt stink. Dripped a couple drops of my fav liquid in there and it tasted fine. Put the filler back in and is now drying. The test will be after it is dry and I re-fill it.
Now, on the second one that was REALLY nasty.... As I was dry burning it... I noticed the coil as it glowed was not under the center tube. It is half in and half out of the center tube. This in a carto that I only half vaped because I thought there was a dry spot in the filler. Seems if I put the filler back in there it is going to sit right on the coil and burn the filter? I do think I was not getting them good and dry because I had burnt juice all up the side of the filler material. Washed right out, but was nasty.
I dry burned till there was no more funky odor. Seems that cleaning gunk off the coil stinks! (hehehehe) I got it good and hot, and did it a couple more times till it didnt stink. Dripped a couple drops of my fav liquid in there and it tasted fine. Put the filler back in and is now drying. The test will be after it is dry and I re-fill it.
Now, on the second one that was REALLY nasty.... As I was dry burning it... I noticed the coil as it glowed was not under the center tube. It is half in and half out of the center tube. This in a carto that I only half vaped because I thought there was a dry spot in the filler. Seems if I put the filler back in there it is going to sit right on the coil and burn the filter? I do think I was not getting them good and dry because I had burnt juice all up the side of the filler material. Washed right out, but was nasty.
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