I've been vaping around 2 months now and I've tried quite a few different vendors and flavors of juices. Whenever I read the threads about different juices I notice some people talking about the different undertones they taste and how they can taste all of the different flavors of these finely produced juices. I noticed when I vape, I just get one flavor and I either like it or I don't. I was wondering if a lot of this is just sort of made up and people are sort of being juice snobs or if this is in fact a real thing because if it is, I'm really jealous. I've also never used an RDA which I'm sure makes a difference. I have only used tanks and I tried sub ohming but it wasn't for me.
How to really taste juice?
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I've done juice reviews and I get different notes.
It's like when people drink bourbon or wine. They get all these flavors, but I don't drink so I can't relate to them.
When I do reviews, the majority of time I build a twisted coil build (I get better flavor in my opinion) and I exhale through my nose. The taste notes seems more defined through a nose exhale.
It's like when people drink bourbon or wine. They get all these flavors, but I don't drink so I can't relate to them.
When I do reviews, the majority of time I build a twisted coil build (I get better flavor in my opinion) and I exhale through my nose. The taste notes seems more defined through a nose exhale.
You nailed it in the OP I had no idea what I was missing until I ditched my Nautilus for an RBFA (Reo with RM4) wicked with KGD. IMHO.
Try a 1/16 micro coil. That was a game changer for me. Maybe I was just wicking my larger coils poorly, but, micros tasted completely different. I wisked with a pretty small amount of KGD (about 2.5mm wide strip)
If I was starting all over again, I'd use unflavored. It takes a while for your taste buds to recover, anyway. And after 5+ years, I use unflavored, because I don't get tired of it.
You dont have to go subohm but a well designed rebuildable really helps a lot, fortunately there are many these days.
Many of the premade items work but were not exactly designed for flavor profile as the main features
Many of the premade items work but were not exactly designed for flavor profile as the main features
At two months, you can go through a lot of cycles of loss of taste sensation. (ie: vapers tongue) It seems to happen most frequently during your first year of vaping. So there's that.
By "tanks" I'm assuming you mean clearos. BCC clearos are known for relatively low flavor production.
A tank would actually be a carto tank and that may be something you want to try if you don't want to go down the sub ohm and rebuilding path. The majority of people claim they get better/more flavor out of a carto tank if they find it lacking in a clearo. For the sake of trying it out a low cost carto tank can be had for less than 10 bucks - and some times a lot less than that. See here for basic carto tank info. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html
So - yes - gear can have a lot to do with. As far as sub ohm goes, those people are creating large amounts of vapor and that means greater exposure because there is a greater amount vapor. Something like the difference between smelling a single cupcake and walking into an entire bakery and inhaling. It's a different experience. There is more to notice just for the fact there is... more.
Lastly, vaping technique can have a lot to do with taste experience. Some people suck really hard on these things (the complaints about BCC clearos leaking gurgling and flooding a lot of the times) to the point where the vapor produced is pretty much bypassing their tongue altogether. A small change in vaping technique can make a difference in what you taste too. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html
By "tanks" I'm assuming you mean clearos. BCC clearos are known for relatively low flavor production.
A tank would actually be a carto tank and that may be something you want to try if you don't want to go down the sub ohm and rebuilding path. The majority of people claim they get better/more flavor out of a carto tank if they find it lacking in a clearo. For the sake of trying it out a low cost carto tank can be had for less than 10 bucks - and some times a lot less than that. See here for basic carto tank info. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-baditudes-cartomizer-tank-setup-guide.html
So - yes - gear can have a lot to do with. As far as sub ohm goes, those people are creating large amounts of vapor and that means greater exposure because there is a greater amount vapor. Something like the difference between smelling a single cupcake and walking into an entire bakery and inhaling. It's a different experience. There is more to notice just for the fact there is... more.
Lastly, vaping technique can have a lot to do with taste experience. Some people suck really hard on these things (the complaints about BCC clearos leaking gurgling and flooding a lot of the times) to the point where the vapor produced is pretty much bypassing their tongue altogether. A small change in vaping technique can make a difference in what you taste too. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/337017-inhalation-technique-e-cigarette.html
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I never noticed how much smoking muted my taste buds! As your taste buds return to normal, you will definitely notice different notes of flavors.
The first thing I noticed was that I didn't need as much seasoning on food. After a while I started noticing that juices I loved when I started vaping didn't taste as good, and started trying new brands, PG/VG ratios, etc.
In a nutshell, your taste will return along with your sense of smell, and it sort of creates a never ending quest for the perfect flavors!!! Enjoy it! It means that your body is healing itself from the damage that was caused by smoking!!
The first thing I noticed was that I didn't need as much seasoning on food. After a while I started noticing that juices I loved when I started vaping didn't taste as good, and started trying new brands, PG/VG ratios, etc.
In a nutshell, your taste will return along with your sense of smell, and it sort of creates a never ending quest for the perfect flavors!!! Enjoy it! It means that your body is healing itself from the damage that was caused by smoking!!
Different atomizers for different juices brings out the best in the juice. The atty`s I run for my cheery or cheesecake is set up very different then the atty`s I run for my tobaccos. The juice base is also different, VG heavy for fruits and sweets, PG heavy for tobaccos.
My wicking is different, rayon and large diameter coils for sweets and JOC and smaller coils for my Tobacs.
Its like a kitchen, lots of recipe variables, lots of different results. But RDA`s provide the biggest differences.
My wicking is different, rayon and large diameter coils for sweets and JOC and smaller coils for my Tobacs.
Its like a kitchen, lots of recipe variables, lots of different results. But RDA`s provide the biggest differences.
Partly it's hardware; you'll get best flavor from *some* RDAs (some are for cloud chasing, not flavor), and from Kayfuns.
Partly it's how the juice was made -- if you DIY and use 30%-35% flavoring, you'll taste it. Until I started doing high-flavor-mixes with DIY, I thought all ejuice was just a nice smell, little taste at all.
Partly it's how you vape -- nose exhales allow more flavor to get thru, since "flavor" is mostly about scent anyway. Inhaling it straight to the lungs is probably the worst possible way to get flavor -- lungs don't have tastebuds. If you inhale it very slowly, hold it in mouth and throat, and exhale thru nose, you'll get the whole flavor.
And partly, it's about ex-smokers having deadened tastebuds, and there's really nothing to be done about that, except wait. They'll get over it, eventually, but everyone is different in how long it can take.
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In my experience taste is certainly subjective but there are some components in play that can be changed for better taste. As many have mentioned I find at least a partial nose exhale greatly helps with increasing flavor as does pointing the drip tip at the tip of my tongue on the draw.
Gear is a tough one but there are many many options. I find smaller chambers produce better taste, I prefer twisted wire builds, and generally I subohm but not always. I like drippers, Reos, etc. over any tank as I just find the flavor better but I know there are many that swear by their Kafuns and such. Different juices really pop with different set ups too hard to say which one will perform the best for you.
Gear is a tough one but there are many many options. I find smaller chambers produce better taste, I prefer twisted wire builds, and generally I subohm but not always. I like drippers, Reos, etc. over any tank as I just find the flavor better but I know there are many that swear by their Kafuns and such. Different juices really pop with different set ups too hard to say which one will perform the best for you.
A RDA/RBA makes a world of difference in flavor. I remember the first time I tried a juice I had been vaping for a while in a tank in a dripper.. It was a real eye-opening experience.
That said, I was a bit of a cigarette snob, I tried a lot of cigarettes and got good at pulling out specific notes in the tobacco. As a result, going into vaping, I am sort of able to do a similar thing. There's sort of a "routine" to properly tasting tobacco, and if you follow the same regiment with e-liquid you can replicate that sort of process.
First, take a whiff of the juice (or tobacco). Get familiar with the aroma, put it as close to your nose as you can and imagine what it's gonna taste like. Your olfactory sense is the most powerful sense you have.
Next, take some dry-puffs. Fill your tank or drip on your RDA and puff on it without hitting your fire button. It'll give you a good idea of what flavor you're in for. With a good tobacco sometimes the dry puff would be far more enticing than the actual smoke.
Now take a regular old puff, as you normally would. On the inhale, pay attention to the throat hit. Pay attention to the notes it leaves on your tongue on the way down. On the exhale, do the notes change? Lick your lips, what kind of flavors are you reminded of?
Now take another drag, only this time hold the vapor (or smoke) in your mouth, don't inhale! Roll the vapor/smoke around in your mouth, use it kind of like mouthwash, holding it in your mouth for 5-10 seconds as you swish it around before exhaling. Do you notice any new flavors? Is the sweetness any more or less than it was when you just exhaled? Any new notes or subtle nuances that you missed before?
Now take a third drag, inhale it, and then exhale the entire puff through your nose. Notice any changes in the flavor now that you're exhaling through your nose? Maybe the menthol is more menthol-y, or the strawberry more (or less) strawberry-y.
Not guaranteeing you'll notice differences in all your juices by analyzing them, but it's worth giving it a shot. I've noticed some juices taste WAY better exhaled through the nose than through the mouth. Some flavors taste stronger when you hold them in longer, others taste weaker. Some juices have a different aroma when you exhale without inhaling into your lungs, other juices stay the same.
Analyzing e-juice definitely isn't hype or smoke/mirrors, there are some juices out there with a lot of subtle complexities (many times, I assume, are an accident). Like a bottle of Nana Cream (by Bombies), if you really analyze it, tastes a bit like Juicy Fruit. If you're paying attention, you'll find the nuances.
That said, I was a bit of a cigarette snob, I tried a lot of cigarettes and got good at pulling out specific notes in the tobacco. As a result, going into vaping, I am sort of able to do a similar thing. There's sort of a "routine" to properly tasting tobacco, and if you follow the same regiment with e-liquid you can replicate that sort of process.
First, take a whiff of the juice (or tobacco). Get familiar with the aroma, put it as close to your nose as you can and imagine what it's gonna taste like. Your olfactory sense is the most powerful sense you have.
Next, take some dry-puffs. Fill your tank or drip on your RDA and puff on it without hitting your fire button. It'll give you a good idea of what flavor you're in for. With a good tobacco sometimes the dry puff would be far more enticing than the actual smoke.
Now take a regular old puff, as you normally would. On the inhale, pay attention to the throat hit. Pay attention to the notes it leaves on your tongue on the way down. On the exhale, do the notes change? Lick your lips, what kind of flavors are you reminded of?
Now take another drag, only this time hold the vapor (or smoke) in your mouth, don't inhale! Roll the vapor/smoke around in your mouth, use it kind of like mouthwash, holding it in your mouth for 5-10 seconds as you swish it around before exhaling. Do you notice any new flavors? Is the sweetness any more or less than it was when you just exhaled? Any new notes or subtle nuances that you missed before?
Now take a third drag, inhale it, and then exhale the entire puff through your nose. Notice any changes in the flavor now that you're exhaling through your nose? Maybe the menthol is more menthol-y, or the strawberry more (or less) strawberry-y.
Not guaranteeing you'll notice differences in all your juices by analyzing them, but it's worth giving it a shot. I've noticed some juices taste WAY better exhaled through the nose than through the mouth. Some flavors taste stronger when you hold them in longer, others taste weaker. Some juices have a different aroma when you exhale without inhaling into your lungs, other juices stay the same.
Analyzing e-juice definitely isn't hype or smoke/mirrors, there are some juices out there with a lot of subtle complexities (many times, I assume, are an accident). Like a bottle of Nana Cream (by Bombies), if you really analyze it, tastes a bit like Juicy Fruit. If you're paying attention, you'll find the nuances.
The best bet is carry a drip tip and try different setups. Lots of people in b&m shops will let you try their setups as long as you have your own tip. That helped a lot in the beginning. It was like going from a small black and white tv to hdtv home theater going from the clearos to trying different setups. The other thing to take into account is how much effort are you willing to put in. Subohm setup and some exotic builds are awesome but high maintenance. Kayfuns are my favorite but need to be re wicked every few tanks. clearos give up flavor in exchange for ease of use.
You guys and gals are awesome!!! Thank you for all of the responses. The only tanks I've used are a Nautilus, Nautilus mini, Delta 2 and Atlantis. Like I said, sub ohming wasn't really for me so all I've been using are the Nautilus's.
Honestly, I just get really jealous when I hear people talking about the different flavor notes and undertones of a complex juice.
Honestly, I just get really jealous when I hear people talking about the different flavor notes and undertones of a complex juice.
Try a BM and bring your juice and tell em you wanna try a dripper. If they dont oblige then screw them. If they do, purchase a bottle of juice or something.
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