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[Bad Ninja]

And he was a small time nobody until he risked his job to put out a song he believed in. After that, he was popular enough to have his own say.

That's what I said, you had to be good enough to get a record deal. He was. He did.
"It's a long way to the top of you wanna rock n roll"- AC/DC

Well connected gangsters as managers tend to make sure you get paid. If the executives at your label fear death and dismemberment, they won't screw you.

Before Zepplin, it was 12 artists on one stage getting paid pennies.
Afterwards it was stadium shows and wretched excess.

Now, 95% of the money they make goes to the label and their manager, not the artist.

Now there is no money. There are no record sales. There is only touring and iTunes left.

When artists pack a venue with 100,000 people, at $100 a pop, they don't make squat. The label makes bank, not the performer.

Wrong.
Labels invested money to make records. Records (CDs to you young-uns) have a HUGE markup and profit margin. Shows were nothing but promotional tools.
Today there are no record sales.
The artists make the bulk of their income from touring.
There is no other real money to be made.

It has nothing to do with the Internet, but everything to do with greedy people running the show. Shut down big labels and start over with the talent making the money and you would see them swimming in cash again. Simple as that.

What money?
There is no more real money.
Slave yourself doing shows until you drop sounds like going backwards to
A working musician.

Labels used to not make 95% of the money and artist get scraps. They were pretty even. Now all that matters is keeping the investors happy and bending the artists over.

Labels spent gazillions supporting promoting and distributing, and after all those expenses were paid the rest was profit.

Now artists must pay
For all that up front to record, promote, distribute and market their work all out of pocket.
I guess it's okay if you
Have money. Overall it hurts the industry and it's starting to show.

 

[Ken1979]

Artists driving beamers and living in mansions don't seem like getting Benny over a barrel to me. The average American family busting there tail to give it all to the government there is the problem !!!!!

 

[Bad Ninja]

Artists driving beamers and living in mansions don't seem like getting Benny over a barrel to me. The average American family busting there tail to give it all to the government there is the problem !!!!!

"Money for Nuthin and their chicks for free!"

 

[Kprthevapr]

 

[SomeTexan]

That's what I said, you had to be good enough to get a record deal. He was. He did.
"It's a long way to the top of you wanna rock n roll"- AC/DC




Before Zepplin, it was 12 artists on one stage getting paid pennies.
Afterwards it was stadium shows and wretched excess.



Now there is no money. There are no record sales. There is only touring and iTunes left.



Wrong.
Labels invested money to make records. Records (CDs to you young-uns) have a HUGE markup and profit margin. Shows were nothing but promotional tools.
Today there are no record sales.
The artists make the bulk of their income from touring.
There is no other real money to be made.



What money?
There is no more real money.
Slave yourself doing shows you drop sounds like going backwards to
A working musician.


Labels spent gazillions supporting promoting and distributing, and after all those expenses were paid the rest was profit.

Now artists must pay
For all that up front to record, promote, distribute and market their work all out of pocket.
I guess it's okay if you
Have money. Overall it hurts the industry and it's starting to show.

He would have continued to a small time if he did as his label told him.

iTunes still costs money. It's not free. Big corporation taking what should go to the artist. Just because physical hard copies aren't being sold doesn't mean their albums aren't selling...

You seem to be missing my original point. Record labels forced artists to conform to their idea of what music should be. Like Nashville being all pop now. A real country musician can't get in the door anymore. Talent isn't needed so much as image. Look at Cross Canadian Ragweed. Their label tried to change their music into pop so Cody Canada quit and went back to writing and singing what he wanted to. He chose to give up money to sing what he wanted. The labels try to destroy good music and make it conform to what they want, not what the consumer wants. This caused real artists to go independent and do whatever it takes to put out good music rather than the generic bs the labels wanted. The cheapest way for them to do that was the Internet. The big labels destroyed the music, then the industry trying to make people conform to their standards. If you look at the Red Dirt scene you will understand. Many artists choose their music over money. They do it for the sole purpose of hurting the big labels. The Internet is saving good music. It may be costing people money, but it is giving us better music. Someone that is a good singer/songwriter has a chance to sell their music on their own rather than zero chance due to a label that doesn't like non conformists.

The labels ran off the talent for conformists, so the talent found a way to hurt them. That's a good thing. We have more good music avalible at the click of a button than you could find in every record store in the country before. If it's all about money to you, then music obviously means nothing to you. Sure, they don't get filthy stinking rich, but artists have the chance to let their talent shine. And make a decent living doing it. It's getting back to where it takes talent to make a name, not an image to make money. The way it should be.

You like to bring up Led Zepplin. That was a group that started the corporate sell out of music. One of the earliest bands that started the trend that gave us nothing but conformist trash. It was all about the money with them, not good music. They paved the way for corporate built money makers like NSYNC, backstreet boys, Rascal Flatts, Jonas brothers and all that crap. No talent tools that can only sing when autotune makes it sound like they can. Zero talent dancers, not musicians.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Did you just call Led Zepplin corporate sell out trash?
Lol
Have you ever listened to them?

Lol
Time to rebuild an atty, brew another cup, and crank some houses of the holy.
It's Sunday.

 

[SomeTexan]

Did you just call Led Zepplin corporate sell out trash?
Lol
Have you ever listened to them?

Lol
Time to rebuild an atty, brew another cup, and crank some houses of the holy.
It's Sunday.

Their early stuff was good, but they went downhill. Money changes musicians. I didn't call them trash, I just said they paved the way.

 

[cooladdict]

IT was supposed to be a "marlboro menthol. Of course it doesnt taste anything like that..but its a sweet tobacco flavor with a touch of menthol..when its on point that is.. apparently menthol is really hard for vape shops to get right everytime. I wish i could find a commercial place that makes the same stuff the same way every single time...just till im off cigs for more than 2 weeks and can float on fuity flavors and sweets. I keep hoping that maybe some of the menthol will just evaporate or something....its that strong..it will burn your nose and make your eyes water and burn the back of your throat. Im trying to hang in there.

It won't evaporate. One thing you might try, though, is to buy the regular Marlboro flavor e-juice from them and a little bottle of menthol flavor ejuice (my B&M sells 5 ml bottles for $3) and just add a drop of that to your tank of Marlboro juice. That was how I started with menthol, for the same reasons you describe. I figured it would just be easier to mentholate whichever juices I wanted a little menthol in. My one-time DIY with menthol crystals convinced me that this is the way to go. It is much easier to hit the mark with menthol ejuice than it is with pure menthol!!

 

[cooladdict]

Its 90/10 i dont think my tank can handle that high of a vg. I have nautilus mini. I was just about to order and try it. Have you tried it? Is it sweet? I like the fact they said not peppery..thats a big deal to me.

It is sweet! I am vaping it right now. I really like it because it is sweet with almost a nutty flavor. It does have just a tiny bite to it but it is not harsh at all. I have it in 6 mg and am vaping it in an Atlantis, but I have the Berry Bomb in my Nauty mini and it is fine at the ratio they mix it at.

 

[cooladdict]

Got up this AM to a notice from UPS...Looks like my Disrupter will be here Monday! ...Must be it, since it is shipped from Hong Kong and I have no ties there for anything I purchased.

Woo hoo! I can't wait to see your review and picture!!!

 

[cooladdict]

Yay, I'm happy for you. I just checked and I don't have a shipping notice yet.

Me neither, but it looks like maybe sometime soon!!

 

[GemInEye]

How can I change my user name? When I signed up it asked for name, so I put my full name, and if I change it will it interfere with my contest entry?

I had to change my name because it didn't meet tos. But every post that I had posted had this name now so it sorta updates. You won't lose your entry in the quick draws because your name will change but the post will stay.

 

[Bovinia]

I do not remember when you, Bella and the others won but I think/recall it was later than mine so this may have some role. I am sure they are doing this in the order in which they were "received".

But everyone can assume that yours is soon to come!

I was in the first 10 to enter group of winners. And I know you're right, they will be in our hot little hands soon

 

[CountBoredom]

I purchased (ordered) my second Cool Fire IV last night-a gold one. Still would like to win a Disrupter!

I might be following you soon... I'm trying to eke out the last life from my iTaste vv/vw v3's first, though.

 

[hittman]

Did I win yet? Nancy said my luck would be on an upswing. Now would be a good time to start.

 

[GemInEye]

Im getting soooo excited Monday Is almost HERE!!!!!!!! This is sooo nerve racking! Im trying to decide between pink and gold or aquamarine and gold...or purple and gold. Just incase i win LOL.

 

[USMCotaku]

Is there a list of all the colours available?
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[jseah]

Is there a list of all the colours available?
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

There are photos of all the available colors earlier in the thread.

 

[Panorama911]

Is there a list of all the colours available?

For the battery...Red, pink, blue, aquamarine, emerald green, purple, black
For the device...Black, silver and gold

 

[USMCotaku]

For the battery...Red, pink, blue, aquamarine, emerald green, purple, black
For the device...Black, silver and gold

Thanks!