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Kenna

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Some people actually plug their extension cords into an outlet in order to power the entire circuit. That's a big no-no.
Big generators like the Generac have circuitry that isolates the power company's electricity from the generators..Which is why a licensed electrician should install those.
Portables you just run an extension cord to your appliance
I had a friend whose son was a electrician & hard wired a generator to run the kitchen & utility room circuits. When I evaced before Rita & Ike I went to his ranch just noth of Huntsville. He had a huge log home. I glamped there.

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Wanted to post to say that we finally got power back on and therefore water, too, at 8:10PM last night. Finally got cell reception Wednesday night, IIRC. Had no structural damage to the house itself, nor to my 24 x 24 storage building I built in 2007. My barn (with my horse inside it in his stall) had only minimal T-111 siding damage to the south end of it, which was amazing considering the cluster of 3 big oaks that fell between the barn and my chain link fence across the back yard.

My 91 year old Mom and I are worn out and weary, but otherwise OK now. We lost power and water Sunday night at 7PM. It didn't really get scary until I heard on the radio about midnight, that we were going to start getting hit by the eye wall 100mph+ winds in about 15-20 minutes. I heard the front door making creaking and rumbling sounds about 15 minutes later, and when I checked on it...the deadbolt and door knob lock throws were literally being pushed very hard back and forth against the lock throw holes in the door jam. So from 12:25AM - about 3:30AM I was braced up against my front door (alternating which hip and leg, shoulder, and arm I had pressing against the door with everything I had) as it would push inward on the door with each strong gust. Boy, did I wish I was a man at that point, and had more strength than I did! Have some bruises now, but they're going away. Absolutely could not allow that door to come open, or the roof could've given way from the inside out.

Got some sleep finally from about 4AM-7AM. Then up and waited for still pretty gusty winds and some rain to quit, so I could set up the generator and get it going. Problem then was getting more gas for the generator and/or more cans to put it in. Drove all over town Monday late afternoon and during the morning Tuesday trying to find some. Nice neighbor brought over 5 gallons to last another 10-12 hours. With no power in most all areas...even the few stations that did have gas in their underground tanks, couldn't get it out. After waiting an hour in a line at 1 little station Tuesday night...was able to get 7 gallons. Wednesday late afternoon was able to get 7 more gallons after only a 30 minute wait. Thursday late afternoon I found 2 more gas cans at Lowe's in a nearby town, so got more then to last through yesterday.

The big trees down in the barnyard and 1 in the front yard were the only real damage done, so we were very lucky. Those will be taken care of ASAP when tree companies aren't so busy. Went out this afternoon and took some photos of them that will probably be needed later. We made it through unhurt and so did all of my animals. It could've been much much worse. So we're very thankful at this point. But...I can honestly say that this one, out of all the others I've been through (including Charley, Frances, and Jeanne in 2004), was the worst nerve-wise.

Next...we'll see what Maria has in store for us possibly in the next 7-10 days. :(

Now I need to go back and read pages 36-52, where I left off before writing this. Glad to see that so far, in the pages I've read...everyone who has reported in seems to at least be OK.
So glad to hear from you and that your household made it ok.

You mentioned not having water. But you also said you have a generator and since you live in the country you probably have well water like us. You can hook up the water pump to the generator. DH did thst here so we had water even when the power was out.

Yes, looks like more hardship for them. We leave Saturday for 2+weeks. Hubby is going to board the windows again and off we will go. At least, so far, it doesn't look like it will be a CAT 5, but that could change.
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DH was telling me about an article he read about the thousands of homeless people in shelters in south Florida. Many if them were homeless before Irma and many more are now homeless because they are poor, their homes were destroyed and they don't have any money or insurance to rebuild.

This is so utterly awful :(:(:(. Reminds me of Katrina.
We have that here. Apartment, rv, & mobil home dwellers especially. The Cities & State are worling yo get landlords to ease up deposits, etc, to help people get bavk into a home.

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I am headed to Estero on Wednesday to help with Operation BBQ Relief. They are. In need of more volunteers to feed the workers & locals who have lost everything. They served 300,000 + meals after Harvey & their crews are weary. Check them out on FB or just google them. They also have an app.
They were awesome! And very erlcome to come back under better conditions!

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Wanted to post to say that we finally got power back on and therefore water, too, at 8:10PM last night. Finally got cell reception Wednesday night, IIRC. Had no structural damage to the house itself, nor to my 24 x 24 storage building I built in 2007. My barn (with my horse inside it in his stall) had only minimal T-111 siding damage to the south end of it, which was amazing considering the cluster of 3 big oaks that fell between the barn and my chain link fence across the back yard.

My 91 year old Mom and I are worn out and weary, but otherwise OK now. We lost power and water Sunday night at 7PM. It didn't really get scary until I heard on the radio about midnight, that we were going to start getting hit by the eye wall 100mph+ winds in about 15-20 minutes. I heard the front door making creaking and rumbling sounds about 15 minutes later, and when I checked on it...the deadbolt and door knob lock throws were literally being pushed very hard back and forth against the lock throw holes in the door jam. So from 12:25AM - about 3:30AM I was braced up against my front door (alternating which hip and leg, shoulder, and arm I had pressing against the door with everything I had) as it would push inward on the door with each strong gust. Boy, did I wish I was a man at that point, and had more strength than I did! Have some bruises now, but they're going away. Absolutely could not allow that door to come open, or the roof could've given way from the inside out.

Got some sleep finally from about 4AM-7AM. Then up and waited for still pretty gusty winds and some rain to quit, so I could set up the generator and get it going. Problem then was getting more gas for the generator and/or more cans to put it in. Drove all over town Monday late afternoon and during the morning Tuesday trying to find some. Nice neighbor brought over 5 gallons to last another 10-12 hours. With no power in most all areas...even the few stations that did have gas in their underground tanks, couldn't get it out. After waiting an hour in a line at 1 little station Tuesday night...was able to get 7 gallons. Wednesday late afternoon was able to get 7 more gallons after only a 30 minute wait. Thursday late afternoon I found 2 more gas cans at Lowe's in a nearby town, so got more then to last through yesterday.

The big trees down in the barnyard and 1 in the front yard were the only real damage done, so we were very lucky. Those will be taken care of ASAP when tree companies aren't so busy. Went out this afternoon and took some photos of them that will probably be needed later. We made it through unhurt and so did all of my animals. It could've been much much worse. So we're very thankful at this point. But...I can honestly say that this one, out of all the others I've been through (including Charley, Frances, and Jeanne in 2004), was the worst nerve-wise.

Next...we'll see what Maria has in store for us possibly in the next 7-10 days. :(

Now I need to go back and read pages 36-52, where I left off before writing this. Glad to see that so far, in the pages I've read...everyone who has reported in seems to at least be OK.
Very happy for you! With wind like that tjere could have been tremendous damage if that door came open.

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First, thanks for the links!

I really would like the tank buried. We don't have a large lot and I have to say, I'm not a fan of the look of a tank sitting out. I don't know if the city would even allow that.

I have hubby researching small generators right now. The thought if his grumpy .... if we lose AC again... just ugh!

He could be looking at whole house though. Who knows what he is up to in there :lol:
I take it no natural gas in the neighborhood. We had it up in Virginia and the restaurants in the shopping center behind us has it but not in our neighborhood. I haven't talked to the gas company yet byt, i doubt they'll run it uder the sound wall to the back of the house. I like natural gas, propane not so much. You'd think they're both the same and as far as use goes they pretty much are, however, natural gas is lighter than air and propane is heavier. Propane will settle into low spots and basements and build up to an explosive concentration quicker.
 
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Wanted to post to say that we finally got power back on and therefore water, too, at 8:10PM last night.

Just sooo relieved to know y'all & da critters are alright!!!
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So from 12:25AM - about 3:30AM I was braced up against my front door (alternating which hip and leg, shoulder, and arm I had pressing against the door with everything I had) as it would push inward on the door with each strong gust. Boy, did I wish I was a man at that point, and had more strength than I did! Have some bruises now, but they're going away. Absolutely could not allow that door to come open, or the roof could've given way from the inside out.
I'm going to suggest you get a 2x4 and cut it into two pieces to go across the door to act as braces. Pre-cut, pre-fit, pre-drill, and have them and the screws necessary for installation to the door-frame ready to go the next time.
 

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So glad to hear from you and that your household made it ok.

You mentioned not having water. But you also said you have a generator and since you live in the country you probably have well water like us. You can hook up the water pump to the generator. DH did thst here so we had water even when the power was out.


Where are you goung this time? And how is your hand?

DH has our generator set up so we can run the well and have water.

Off to Salisbury, MD then Huron, 0H. Dr tomorrow to get stitches removed. Getting better, but going to take time for healing and full, well, as good as it's going to be, function. Got some left handed scissors today though, so I can sew and cut, just can't braid.

For those that don't know, totally off topic, freak accident I lost the tip of my right thumb. Nothing hurricane related so back on topic.

I am so glad everyone fared as well as they have. It sure could have been much worse.
 

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So from 12:25AM - about 3:30AM I was braced up against my front door (alternating which hip and leg, shoulder, and arm I had pressing against the door with everything I had) as it would push inward on the door with each strong gust. Boy, did I wish I was a man at that point, and had more strength than I did! Have some bruises now, but they're going away. Absolutely could not allow that door to come open, or the roof could've given way from the inside out.

Wow. That was close...The last thing I did before the storm showed up was realign the hurricane sliding bolts on my front door. Miami-Dade County made those mandatory for new construction at some point.
I installed them on front and back doors on my old house.
Google STANLEY Hurricane Door System Slide Bolt Kit , I just did..didn't see them at homedepot
but I did find some on Ebay. One goes on the bottom and another on top...They would have definitely helped you... (I thought you were a dude ).
Glad you're OK.
 
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I had a friend whose son was a electrician & hard wired a generator to run the kitchen & utility room circuits. When I evaced before Rita & Ike I went to his ranch just noth of Huntsville. He had a huge log home. I glamped there.

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It's easy if one knows what one is doing and avoids extension cords. You need a throw switch, one way it's power company power the other it's on the generator
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I had a friend whose son was a electrician & hard wired a generator to run the kitchen & utility room circuits. When I evaced before Rita & Ike I went to his ranch just noth of Huntsville. He had a huge log home. I glamped there.

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This is called "backfeeding" down here and you can run as much with this system as your generator will allow. DH plans to do this with our genny…much more convenient than hooking up cords everywhere.

I'm glad an electrician did this for your friend because where people get in trouble is when they don't do it the right and safe way.
 

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    This is called "backfeeding" down here and you can run as much with this system as your generator will allow. DH plans to do this with our genny…much more convenient than hooking up cords everywhere.

    I'm glad an electrician did this for your friend because where people get in trouble is when they don't do it the right and safe way.

    If you do that incorrectly you can bump off a lineman,all 3 lines from the pole need to be disconnected NOT just the two hot ones it's best to use a transfer switch made for the job :2c:

    Illegal Backfeeding
    Backfeeding is a dangerous practice that is illegal in many localities. If you backfeed your home’s electrical system and injure or kill a worker, you will be held liable and accountable, and more than likely will be criminally prosecuted for your actions. Further, even if no one is injured, if the utility finds that you are backfeeding their lines, you may be subject to fines or the utility may disconnect your home.

    Be safe and avoid problems. Install a manual transfer switch or hire a qualified electrician to do it and be ready for the next power outage.
    Backfeeding with a Generator is Dangerous | Norwall PowerSystems Blog
     
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    The Dangers
    1. Utility workers who think the line is safe could be electrocuted if the generator back feeds the grid. Neighbors
    houses could be backfed due to “islanding”. Let’s see, is that manslaughter or negligent homicide? Hmmm, bet-
    ter call the lawyer.
    2. If the generator and the grid are on-line at the same times they will likely be out of phase. When it comes to a
    contest between a 30 amp generator and a gazillion amp public utility, exactly whose equipment is most likely to
    go up in flames? If an “islanding” condition exists, multiple generators can battle each other with equally disas-
    trous consequences.
    3. Should someone forget that the generator is powering the house through the dryer outlet and, in a moment of
    madness, remove the plug, there will be 240 volts at 30 amps waiting on those energized prongs to “reach out
    and touch somebody”, like small children or beloved pets. There really is a reason for the time honored conven-
    tion where plugs supply devices and sockets supply power.
    4. Are there any circuit breaker manufacturers out there who will guarantee their product will work as expected in a
    backward fed condition? (We’ll get back with you when the manufacturers finish checking with their legal
    departments.)
    5. If there are any other outlets on the dryer’s circuit, those outlets will have 30 amp protection provided by the gen-
    erator but likely only 15 or 20 amp wiring. “Honey ... what’s that smell?!?!”
    6. Anyone care to place a bet that the circuit protection on that $400.00 generator is better than that afforded by the
    house circuit breakers? Step right up and try your luck!
     

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    Port St. Lucie. Treasure coast, St. Lucie County.

    I take it no natural gas in the neighborhood. We had it up in Virginia and the restaurants in the shopping center behind us has it but not in our neighborhood. I haven't talked to the gas company yet byt, i doubt they'll run it uder the sound wall to the back of the house. I like natural gas, propane not so much. You'd think they're both the same and as far as use goes they pretty much are, however, natural gas is lighter than air and propane is heavier. Propane will settle into low spots and basements and build up to an explosive concentration quicker.

    There are no natural gas lines out where we are. We are about 1-2 miles from the Indian River Lagoon. The Savannas start just 1 'block' (I would say city block) from my house. They did an awesome job of filling with water and keeping that water from inundating us.

    Now that the water level has come up in them, I hope it can handle anything Maria dishes out. There still looks to be room to fill in more. We had some serious drying out of the wetlands this summer.

    We are not in a flood plane but it is kind of close...

    Hubby has someone coming out to talk with us about whole house generators. I have a feeling it will be more expensive than us buying the components and hiring the different serves needed to install.

    Hopefully we can finance it. I don't want to drain our savings down, my health issues may need that money if I end up having to travel out of state to get some things done down the road.

    Life's an adventure meant to be lived. Never let it get you down and look for the bits of good stuff mixed in with the adversity.

    I'm here, I'm alive and I'm sitting out by a pool on my iPad.

    Can't get much better than that right now :D
     
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