HV atomizers - Di or anyone try them yet?

[Oddgirl]

Hi Di. It's been a while since I posted here. Wanted you to know that I've had good luck using EM's standard 801 attys at 6 volts. I always follow your "keep it wet" advice. I'm constantly dripping, but haven't killed one yet.

I see EM now has HV attys for 6V use. I have several 6V devices and they have become my favorites. But I've found that standard 801 atomizers can give the liquid a somewhat harsh taste, and the vapor doesn't seem as flavorful at higher voltages. I willingly put up with that because I love the powerful and consistant throat hit.

Here are my questions:

1. Do the new HV attys (specifically the EM8-HV) mellow out the flavor? The description on the EM website says they "produce excellent vapor without boiling" the liquid. I'm guessing it's the boiling that causes the harsher taste. It would be great to taste more of the flavor in my favorite Red Bull juice.

2. I don't see any reviews yet on the HV attys. Have you tried them yet? Has anyone tried them yet? I would like to get some feedback before I stock up in a big way.

3. Are cartomizers suitable for 6V use, and are they available in the 801 style/size?

4. I can't seem to find cartomizers at the EM website. I see all kinds of atomizers, but no cartomizers. Could you provide a link? I'd love to order a few in the 801 style/size. If I understand correctly, they hold a LOT more liquid than directly dripping into an atomizer. That would be great because all that messing around gets old sometimes, especially when driving.

5. I'm also curious about the new Obsession PV. There's plenty of info on the new Indulgence, and I'm so glad you guys are finally selling a high voltage device. What can you tell me about the Obsession? What is it, and when will it be available? Details and photos would be appreciated.

Thanks Di, or anyone else out there who can answer my questions. I'll check back later for info, and will place an order soon.

 

[mwa102464]

Just to let you know my experiance the new HV6v and HV7.2v Atty's rock this world with all the big battery mods that are on the market and seem to last a very long time, you do have to drip and keep them wet and I have found you end up using way more fluis so for someone that doesnt have the money to keep dripping and using fluid they might not want them but for me they are the only thing I use now...!!!

 

[mwa102464]

Who is EM, what supplier

 

[doots]

I have used HV 801s. Not East Mall's though. But I would assume they are about the same.

No Harsh hit from them at 6v. Very mellow and last a long time. I use carts with these attys and they do fine. I do not need to drip as much as I did with reg 801s.

Cartos on their site is DPV9. I think you can do it at 6v but a little harsh. I love Cartos at 5v. The prefect spot for cartos..

 

[Oddgirl]

Thanks for your feedback on the HV atomizers. EM is my abbreviated way of saying East Mall.

 

[mwa102464]

Ya I figured that out after I wrote that about the EM, they have extreamly cheap prices for the HV Atty's, I have been paying Ten bucks a piece for them, but im not sure they are going to be of the same quality of the ones I have ben getting though I really hope so. And thanks I didnt know anyone else who sold them yet besides my regular supplier

 

[Di]

Hi Di. It's been a while since I posted here. Wanted you to know that I've had good luck using EM's standard 801 attys at 6 volts. I always follow your "keep it wet" advice. I'm constantly dripping, but haven't killed one yet.

Yes, I have to say that the EM 801 regular low bridge 4 hole attys are --
IMHO -- probably the best at the moment--
and yes, I agree, even at 6V, many people are having great success with these, the secret as I have said many times =
********** Keep It Wet ***********

I see EM now has HV attys for 6V use. I have several 6V devices and they have become my favorites. But I've found that standard 801 atomizers can give the liquid a somewhat harsh taste, and the vapor doesn't seem as flavorful at higher voltages. I willingly put up with that because I love the powerful and consistant throat hit.


Here are my questions:

1. Do the new HV attys (specifically the EM8-HV) mellow out the flavor? The description on the EM website says they "produce excellent vapor without boiling" the liquid. I'm guessing it's the boiling that causes the harsher taste. It would be great to taste more of the flavor in my favorite Red Bull juice.

YES-- Yes, the regular attys at 6V can boil the juice and give a harsh throat ---
the beauty of the HV attys are that with the special modifications--
they burn at a lower heat but give that same power that is needed to Fire Up Your Atty and get it cooking nicely ----- well worth the money ----

2. I don't see any reviews yet on the HV attys. Have you tried them yet? Has anyone tried them yet? I would like to get some feedback before I stock up in a big way.

These are a new item we are introducing as a special add on for our Indulgence ecig which has an optional 6V addon--
we figured if we give you a 6V option with our new ecig,
we should also give you the 6V HV attys to go with it -----

3. Are cartomizers suitable for 6V use, and are they available in the 801 style/size?

ok I thnk you are talking about 2 different things here-----
Cartomizers these are the combination cartridge and attomizers for the DPV9 ---- are NOT suitable for 6V use -- that is too hot for them
they tatse burned and bloody aweful---- best is 5V on passthru, or regular 3,7 V battery ------

Regular wool filled cartridges - these are what is used in all ecigs for the holding and transport of the juice to the atty bridge--
these are designed and made to be used at 3.7V, but can be used at 6V and yes they are available in the 801 size........

4. I can't seem to find cartomizers at the EM website. I see all kinds of atomizers, but no cartomizers. Could you provide a link? I'd love to order a few in the 801 style/size. If I understand correctly, they hold a LOT more liquid than directly dripping into an atomizer. That would be great because all that messing around gets old sometimes, especially when driving.

go here------

801 Blank Carts - 1 Pack - DSE801 - Manual/Auto - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd

5. I'm also curious about the new Obsession PV. There's plenty of info on the new Indulgence, and I'm so glad you guys are finally selling a high voltage device. What can you tell me about the Obsession? What is it, and when will it be available? Details and photos would be appreciated.

hahahahha, you and several thousands of others, -- nice try---
you have to wait for forum posts like everyone else - ahahahaha

Thanks Di, or anyone else out there who can answer my questions. I'll check back later for info, and will place an order soon.

Oddgirl,

no worries, thats what we all do here-- meself ,
and all the members here--

we have the most wonderful members her--
they are all kind and generous in their sharing with each other---

 

[Di]

Ya I figured that out after I wrote that about the EM, they have extreamly cheap prices for the HV Atty's, I have been paying Ten bucks a piece for them, but im not sure they are going to be of the same quality of the ones I have ben getting though I really hope so. And thanks I didnt know anyone else who sold them yet besides my regular supplier

Here is a very helpful post from a very good friend -----
Rocket (RocketMan)

Di, I have not tried your HV Atty, and I usually don't do 5 volts or higher,
but some may not understand the advantage to using this atty.
So, here are my free comments

a 3 ohm atty running on 3.7 volts will draw about 1.2 amps.
This will provide the user with
4.5 watts of vaping power. (watts makes vapor) Enough for me.

Your 4.5 ohm atty running on 5 volts will draw 1.1 amps but will provide
5.5 watts of vaping power,

and running on 6 volts will draw 1.3 amps of current but will give the vaper
8 watts to blow smoke.

Some may evaluate the current and not the power dissipated.
Not much difference in current (1.1, 1.2, 1.3),
but a big difference in power. Sort of like miles per gallon and horsepower.
Economy car or muscle car.

What makes vapor?
Watts.

Rocket (RocketMan)

 

[clyde2801]

When do you expect to have some more HV 510's ready?

Here is a very helpful post from a very good friend -----
Rocket (RocketMan)

Di, I have not tried your HV Atty, and I usually don't do 5 volts or higher,
but some may not understand the advantage to using this atty.
So, here are my free comments

a 3 ohm atty running on 3.7 volts will draw about 1.2 amps.
This will provide the user with
4.5 watts of vaping power. (watts makes vapor) Enough for me.

Your 4.5 ohm atty running on 5 volts will draw 1.1 amps but will provide
5.5 watts of vaping power,

and running on 6 volts will draw 1.3 amps of current but will give the vaper
8 watts to blow smoke.

Some may evaluate the current and not the power dissipated.
Not much difference in current (1.1, 1.2, 1.3),
but a big difference in power. Sort of like miles per gallon and horsepower.
Economy car or muscle car.

What makes vapor?
Watts.

Rocket (RocketMan)

 

[Di]

When do you expect to have some more HV 510's ready?

Hi Clyde,

my totally honest answer to you is that I do not know at this moment---

as you may realise, we have so much happening at the moment,
we are focussed absolutely on getting Indulgence to the shop-
when this is done, we will look at other things,

 

[Di]

When do you expect to have some more HV 510's ready?

How about right now -- hahahahah

just added to shop tonight--------

 

[Sergey]

My first experience with HV 801 from EM:

Do not like it at 6v =( It has a resistance of 5Ohm, which would equate to
1.2 amp current. I find it weak, not giving much. Just a touch better than sucking on 1x3.7 battery with standard EM 801 (which I believe is 3.2Ohm)

For those of you having the same problem, try putting in 2x3.7 volt cr123a batteries and you'll see the difference on how it SHOULD vape =)

So...(calculating) To my liking it must have a current of around 1.4 amps (I know, 1.48, but it gets pretty hot to touch), making it 4.2-4.4 Ohm the sweet spot.

I love EM, David and Di, but c'mon guys! You must have tried it before you started selling them! Everyone talks about the "sweet" spot at 5v, but with 5 ohm attys it makes it 4.44V when using standard 3.7ohm attys - which is weak....

This is just my point of view. I will buy those HV attys for sure, but use it with 2x3.7 batteries.

Sergey

 

[dedmonwakin]

I ordered 3 HV attys and selected the option to have a regular 801 atty with my indulgence.

ALTHOUGH, I haven't been able to use my 801 attys yet since these are the first I've ever owned and I received a DOA Indulgence. I overlooked something very important. There is no marking to differentiate the regular 801 with the three HV 801's......so now that the 3.7 atty is mixed in with the 6volt atty,.......I for the life of me, can't figure out which is which.

Thought I'd just share my goof off.

 

[Di]

I ordered 3 HV attys and selected the option to have a regular 801 atty with my indulgence.

ALTHOUGH, I haven't been able to use my 801 attys yet since these are the first I've ever owned and I received a DOA Indulgence. I overlooked something very important. There is no marking to differentiate the regular 801 with the three HV 801's......so now that the 3.7 atty is mixed in with the 6volt atty,.......I for the life of me, can't figure out which is which.

Thought I'd just share my goof off.

NO No No,,

I think really it is our goof off,

we are trying to have the HV attys engraved with HV on them
but it is taking some time to get this organised.

I will ask David to put a sticker onto the HV attys
and when you get them
please make sure you keep the HV atty with a sticker or something on them to differentiate them, hahahahahah,

we thought about this too, but it was too late when we thought about it to do it for the first runs of HV attys coming in.

 

[DMertz99]

I ordered 3 HV attys and selected the option to have a regular 801 atty with my indulgence.

ALTHOUGH, I haven't been able to use my 801 attys yet since these are the first I've ever owned and I received a DOA Indulgence. I overlooked something very important. There is no marking to differentiate the regular 801 with the three HV 801's......so now that the 3.7 atty is mixed in with the 6volt atty,.......I for the life of me, can't figure out which is which.

Thought I'd just share my goof off.

The bridge on your HV atty should be a little larger. You can also check the resistance with a multi-meter. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/57123-how-2-know-if-atomizer-working-good-multimeter.html The HV801 should measure just over 4.5ohms and the regular 801 atty about 3.5

 

[Minimike]

To simplify a bit -

A regular atty, designed for 3.7v, when run at 5 or 6 volts = will heat up more, thus more vapor and the possibility of more 'burnt taste.'.

A HV atty has more nichrome wire, thus giving more area heating up = more vapor produced without higher heat. Yes the wattage is higher, but it is heat over a larger area that is doing the work.

If the nichrome wire is a different per cm resistance then it may have the same surface area and therefore would actually be no different from a standard atty.

IMHO

 

[Di]

Of course, I knew all that, (ahem !!)

I just didnt want to brag and go on about it,

I wanted you guys to say it all,-------

of course I know all of this technical stuff !!!! --

and I know all about all those technical thingies !!!!!

 

[KonaNeil]

I bought some of the first HV 801 atties. They all measure a little over 5V. I like the vapor they produce but would like just a tiny bit more heat. Are the latest ones 4.5V as sometimes written about or still 5 volt?

Last week I traveled from tropical Hawaii where I live to the desert climate of Las Vegas. I didn't bring any of my HV atomizers but was surprised that the BE112 atties, cartomizers and juices I did bring acted and tasted different in the dry weather than they do in the humid weather at home.

Since South China also has a damp warm climate, unlike most of the US and Europe, it might be a good idea to test new products in a dry location as well as at the factory.

 

[Di]

I bought some of the first HV 801 atties. They all measure a little over 5V. I like the vapor they produce but would like just a tiny bit more heat. Are the latest ones 4.5V as sometimes written about or still 5 volt?

Last week I traveled from tropical Hawaii where I live to the desert climate of Las Vegas. I didn't bring any of my HV atomizers but was surprised that the BE112 atties, cartomizers and juices I did bring acted and tasted different in the dry weather than they do in the humid weather at home.

Since South China also has a damp warm climate, unlike most of the US and Europe, it might be a good idea to test new products in a dry location as well as at the factory.

YES KONA ------

we have noticed this also--


weather does affect your atty performance and the viscosity of your liquids also, and therefore can change the taste and vaping amounts consumed --

I do not know of any of the factories who have beta testing in various climate conditions -------


.

 

[Oddgirl]

Hi Di. Since I started this thread, figured I should let you know what I think about the HV attys now that I've had them a while.

I've been using the 801 HV atomizers for 2 or 3 weeks now, non-stop. I have two 6V "Chucks" that I use in rotation. I supposed I could be described as a chain vaper - rarely without a PV in my hand. EM's HV attys seem to hold up really well - haven't blown one up yet. I think the taste is less harsh than standard 801 atomizers on a 6V device. The taste is closer to that 5V "sweet spot" that so many vapers seem to prefer. As long as I follow your advice and "keep it wet", the hit is not harsh and they produce lots of vapor. I have a feeling your HV attys are all I'll use from now on.

I like the satin stainless steel look a LOT. All my other silver attys are shiny, these are satin, so I can easily tell them apart. They look really nice.

THE QUESTION: I go thru massive quantities of your juice. 24mg Red Bull is what I mainly vape with. Do you PROMISE the manufacturer of your juice goes thru a lot of quality control and uses only the best ingredients? I'm always hearing about toys from China having lead in the paint, or wheat glutin (or whatever it was) in dog food killing dogs. Please promise me that your manufacturer isn't using something toxic as an ingredient. I use so much of your juice, if they do, I'm a goner for sure.

Thanks!