Hybrid devices vs. Genesis atomizers?

[Vaya]

What do you all prefer? Both have their place to me, and often times I don't notice *much* of a difference in performance, but I love, love, love my hybrids. They're convenient, look oh so beautiful and all that I own perform beautifully.

To be fair, I should mention that I have a bit of a thing for iHybrid, despite the fact that the company is no longer operational. The use of silver solder to secure the center post inside the atomizer body generates a noticeably more effective vape experience to me, one that I actually 'crave,' unlike with other devices.

On any given day, I'm 10x more likely to reach for a hybrid device rather than a mod with a separate genesis atty on top.

What're your thoughts? Do we have favorites of either category (hybrids or genesis atties)? Are clones preferred, or do we have those partial to authentic devices in here as well?

Looking forward to generating a fresh discussion surrounding this for 2016

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Well you've opened a can of worms here...

Genesis devices are capable of Terraforming an entire planet in a matter of hours... oh, wait... wrong Genesis device.

Hybrids can be RTA (rare), Genesis, or RDAs. Today, there are hybrid topcaps, and so virtually anything with a long enough center pin can be a hybrid.

Genesis devices are also all over the map in 2016. There are the new Genesis style devices such as the Avocado and Fodi. Then you have the older devices that have really plummeted in value and cost. The Kraken, and the fact 22 come to mind.

Myself, I prefer true hybrid devices, and traditionally mesh wick Genesis devices.

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[Vaya]

For the purposes of this discussion, I'm defining 'genesis' as a device using vertical mesh/ss rope wick.

I'm not including the use of hybrid conversion caps in the definition of 'hybrid'

RTA Hybrids, fine - but not RDA hybrids, of which I own one myself. They're still just RDA's to me, and that discussion doesn't really belong here IMO.

Lots of companies have attempted to reinvent the wheel when it comes to genesis style atomizers (thinking of the OZ-22, Origenny, etc.). Some fly, some fall. At the end of the day, what worked way back when works just as well as almost anything out there today, but there are some perks to be found with newer models.

 

[Annie56]

I like genisis hybrid models. True hybrids are a safe mech to use--provided that you mind your batteries limits, and use good batteries

I have Temon hybrids. I did not like the 14500 battery, since it limits what i can build.

I have Silver Dog hybrid clones. These are 18350. Same problem with small battery capacity. I use an extension tube from a Chi-You--and i can now use an 18650 battery.

I just got 510 bases for the Temon atomisers, making them stand-alone attys. I built one tonite. I really like it. Taller post than D20 DiD. So far, being really nice with my juice. 5/4 28g around a 2.5mm jig. 1.0Ω

I don't know why, but i cannot get a good vape off of the D20 DiD. The 26g is a no-go. That build cooked my juice. It's weird. I get a better vape off of the Aga Ts, which are about the same size as the D20 DiDs. I honestly think that there is just too much metal, or maybe the thickness of the deck--acting as a heat sink/crock pot for my juice.

For now--glad i have a Temon back in rotation

 

[Annie56]

I'm actually looking forward to tinkering with a BF99, Nectar, and an Avocado. I watched a tutorial on the BF99. He used a mesh u-wick. I want to mess around with u-wicks some more--and these new atties are the perfect devices for them.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I'm curious about this one: $19.27 Genius2 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 4.5ml / stainless steel + glass / 23mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[Vaslovik]

I've never used a hybrid so I can't speak to this at all, as yet. I've always been happy with the standard kit of mech and genny, though I do believe my Poldiacs come with the hardware necessary to convert them into hybrids, and it might be worth taking a shot at.

 

[Light Seeker]

I'm actually looking forward to tinkering with a BF99, Nectar, and an Avocado. I watched a tutorial on the BF99. He used a mesh u-wick. I want to mess around with u-wicks some more--and these new atties are the perfect devices for them.

Have a link by chance? Like to try a mesh u-wick in my avocado instead of rayon, have no idea how to roll a u shaped wick without kinks.

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[Vaslovik]

For the purposes of this discussion, I'm defining 'genesis' as a device using vertical mesh/ss rope wick.

Lots of companies have attempted to reinvent the wheel when it comes to genesis style atomizers (thinking of the OZ-22, Origenny, etc.). Some fly, some fall. At the end of the day, what worked way back when works just as well as almost anything out there today, but there are some perks to be found with newer models.

I have to applaud this! Thank you, that's precisely my own thinking about it. Re-inventing the wheel is just what it amounts to. I'm happy with the back-in-the-day gennies

 

[yourgurnard]

but not RDA hybrids, of which I own one myself. They're still just RDA's to me, and that discussion doesn't really belong here IMO.

You just don't wanna hear Me banging on about My ceramic-wicked In'Ax clone again!!!

 

[Vaya]

There's a lovely adapter ring for the iHybrid Synthesis that permits making the GGTS a side-fire, telescoping, adjacent dual coil/U-wick reduced chamber Genesis hybrid device. If it gets much better than all that, well... =D

 

[Annie56]

Have a link by chance? Like to try a mesh u-wick in my avocado instead of rayon, have no idea how to roll a u shaped wick without kinks.

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Jong-Yeol Kim, search on Youtube. No Avocado tutorial, but tutorial on BF99

 

[Light Seeker]

Thanks Annie!

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[Shawn Hoefer]

One to avoid is the Fasttech Valkyrie. It's got a poly tank in the tube like the Magneto RSST hybrid, but 0 venting. It's a dual coil genny, and it gets HOT. Too bad it's also purty!

Speaking of, I grabbed an RSST last night.

I find I prefer tanks and mods a separate entities. I like being able to mix and match. The voltage drop does not bother me on most...

At present, I have, or have incoming, 13 Genesis tanks, no Genesis Hybrids.

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[Annie56]

I'm curious about this one: $19.27 Genius2 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 4.5ml / stainless steel + glass / 23mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I tried to watch a review on the original, in German.

I have Dome clones. I do not use them. I tried to do a dual uwick build, and melted the pos pin insulator, after pulsing about 4 or 5 times.

Very, very scary. My mod got piping hot. I did not vent the battery, thank God!!

So now, i'm very mindful of the insulators. The only thing that worries me about the Genius, is what kind of insulators it has. FT one seems to come with several SS cable wicks. But you could prolly get that thing to RAWK with a dual-coil build

 

[Annie56]

Thanks Annie!

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He doesn't talk at all, in his vids. But he gives dimensions and specs on his builds. He is a whiz-kid with the gennys!!

 

[Annie56]

There's a lovely adapter ring for the iHybrid Synthesis that permits making the GGTS a side-fire, telescoping, adjacent dual coil/U-wick reduced chamber Genesis hybrid device. If it gets much better than all that, well... =D

Ima hafta Google this, lol!!

 

[Vaya]

^Unfortunately it was only sold with the atomizer itself... I do have two myself, but being that I have four Synths I'm already two short

 

[Vaya]

Just placed an order for an authentic copper Kraken 1.2.... can't wait! Heard so much about this atomizer over time and space....

 

[Vaslovik]

Just placed an order for an authentic copper Kraken 1.2.... can't wait! Heard so much about this atomizer over time and space....

I have two authentic Krakens and I'm quite happy with them. I like them almost as much as my DID's. I think you will be pleased with it. You can even dual coil it if you choose to go that way.