Hyped up juice or vaping gear that was a disappointment?

[choochoogranny]

Andria, I just discovered this past week with a new juice from a new store in town that is 60/40 PG/VG, that my chest tightens up after vaping on it. I normally vape 70/30 PG/VG and have no problems. It's a shame as this juice is some of the best tasting I've found; and if I dilute with PG, will also dilute the taste. I do not have asthma or any breathing issues at all. Think I'll ask the store if I can change the ratio.

Otherwise, I've not been disappointed by any hardware I've bought (MVP, ProVari, Vapor Shark); and all my juices purchased locally so I can try them out first. I recoil and rewick my PT 2's and Davides and have managed to turn them into Nauti's by using an airflow controller, adapter extension ring, and the NON Nauti replacement BVC's.

Also have had the Nauti (5 ml and mini) for 3 mos. and today experienced my first flood. Took it apart and found I went beyond the useful life of my coil. User error. Put a new coil in and was set for the next few days. My occupation is now vaping and I do put quite a bit of juice per day thru my coils.

Don't know if it's ignorant noob luck or a lot of researching here.....probably both, but I've never gotten frustrated or mad that something wasn't working right. Always figured it was something I did if anything went wrong which usually involved the coil and wicking......which is my first line of attack. New coil!

 

[purelyscientific]

Provari - Controversial maybe, but there's no denying that it's super-hyped. Yes it works well, yes it's very well made - but 4 volts is 4 volts. My Vamo gave me just as good as a vape as it did. Still, it looks pretty sitting on my vape shelf (I'm half kidding with this selection before I get slaughtered, I actually do use my Provari occasionally)

I'm not trying to slaughter you but....that's just not true; 4 volts is not always 4 volts. The provari has pulse width modulation so that no matter how low your battery is what you set it at is what you get. I actually upgraded from the vamo(One of the older versions) to the provari and one of the biggest selling points for me was the pulse width feature. With other devices the voltage will tail off as the battery drains. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

You're right on one thing though, I can't deny that it's over-hyped. haha

 

[InTheShade]

I'm not trying to slaughter you but....that's just not true; 4 volts is not always 4 volts. The provari has pulse width modulation so that no matter how low your battery is what you set it at is what you get. I actually upgraded from the vamo(One of the older versions) to the provari and one of the biggest selling points for me was the pulse width feature. With other devices the voltage will tail off as the battery drains. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

You're right on one thing though, I can't deny that it's over-hyped. haha

I just wanted to post that to prove I ain't scared of no Provarinati.

Draws curtains, hides under bed

 

[AndriaD]

Andria, I just discovered this past week with a new juice from a new store in town that is 60/40 PG/VG, that my chest tightens up after vaping on it. I normally vape 70/30 PG/VG and have no problems. It's a shame as this juice is some of the best tasting I've found; and if I dilute with PG, will also dilute the taste. I do not have asthma or any breathing issues at all. Think I'll ask the store if I can change the ratio.

I feel that way about the Long Bottom Leaf Pipe Sauce... LOVE the taste, cannot handle the 95% VG AT ALL. 3-4 hits and I start feeling that damn hairball in my chest. I really wish the folks that make Pipe Sauce would offer custom PG/VG for those of us who just CAN'T handle all that VG.

But, the Inawera Cappucino is pretty good; not *exactly* the same taste as the Long Bottom Leaf, more coffee-ish than that, but at least the LBL opened my eyes to the fact that some coffee-type vapes are actually pretty good.

Andria

 

[dwarfcat]

Grants Vanilla Custard - after reading about it for months and checking the website over and over it became my white rhino. I had to have that juice on my wall. I happened into a 50ml bottle one night at 3am and anxiously awaited my golden nectar. Sadly, it was really underwhelming to me. In all fairness I just dont think im as big of a custard fan as I thought id be. Also, at the time I wasnt dripping but it was certainly nothing special to me out of my kayfun.

Five Pawns - The entire line makes me sad. I tend to WANT to like the finer and more expensive things in life. I have tried and tried to like this juice and I always walk out of the store empty handed. Ive tried it in tank set ups in the store, stood there for 30 min puffing each one trying to tell myself I needed them and just walked out. I later went back with my ipv2 and a tugboat with fresh cotton and dripped the poor guys juice for 45 min going back and forth and still just wasnt for me. Ive given up, they just arent for me.

 

[ginny005]

my caravela clone. it had so many good reviews I had to get one. I used it for a couple hrs then put it back in the box in a drawer and that's where its stayed for months and will stay for quite a few more. Also suicide bunny, space jam and the one mad alchemist flavor I've tried were all big disappointments for me

 

[AndriaD]

I'm not trying to slaughter you but....that's just not true; 4 volts is not always 4 volts. The provari has pulse width modulation so that no matter how low your battery is what you set it at is what you get. I actually upgraded from the vamo(One of the older versions) to the provari and one of the biggest selling points for me was the pulse width feature. With other devices the voltage will tail off as the battery drains. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)

You're right on one thing though, I can't deny that it's over-hyped. haha

You know, I believe the iTaste vv3 and MVP2 also have that PWM thing. And I hear there's now a v4, more mAh options.

Andria

 

[VapinWolf]

China mods, for the most part are pwm at a much slower frequency. The ProVari will show a solid voltage on a scope, China mods usually do not. But, newer China mods change the rules I hear. No experience myself.

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[Stosh]

China mods, for the most part are pwm at a much slower frequency. The ProVari will show a solid voltage on a scope, China mods usually do not. But, newer China mods change the rules I hear. No experience myself.

Frequency has nothing to do with the output waveform, the filtering circuits control that, and is the same for any PWM circuit. Any current mod that is boosting voltage is using PWM, some filter it, some don't.

The Provari does exactly what their advertising states, regardless of hype by owners. The worst hype I hear for them is about the one button control and menus...."You'll get used to it". Sorry, for me that's like buying a car and being told "it pulls to the left when you use the brakes, but you'll get use to it"

 

[ProjektMayhem]

I thought the Stillare RDA was going to be a lot better than it is. For me, the flavor just isn't there like in the TOBH. It's definitely one of my less used drippers and I'm probably going to give it to a friend that's just starting out with RBA's.

 

[Maiar]

For me it was the new iStick. It's super nice and easy to operate and will work well for high powered vapers. It just doesn't do what it's advertised as doing in regards to regulating and accurate readings for the VW and VV modes, especially at lower settings like I use. It'll be the first battery I buy if I ever desire way more power than the mvp2.0 I replaced it with. So I was disappointed but that's not to say it's a bad piece of hardware.

 

[InfinityzeN]

As far as hardware, I have had mostly very good luck I guess. I've only been vaping for a short period of time but have bought *LOTS* of stuff. So here is my quick list of the few.

- Infinite CLT V2+ RDA: Rip Triper loved the original, said it had great build quality, and the V2+ was supposed to have better airflow and drip wells. Well mine showed up with the black coating showing wear or being missing in several spots. The machining left much to be desired with lots of flashing in two of the four coil clamps and spurs in several spots. Plus something is up because it always shows a short. Place the coil into another RDA and it works fine. *GRRRRR* I sat around with several files (flat and cone) push some high grit sandpaper working on that thing for several hours. Looks better and is smoother operating but it still shows a short half the time so don't trust it to vape with. Maybe I just got a bad one.

- Defiant Wires: At ~$1 a foot this stuff had to be crazy good. It was a touch softer, but just as springy. No noticeable difference in flavor or vapor. Such a waste since I still have over nine feet of it.

- HH.357 Atty: Oh this thing does work great but at $20 I don't feel it is worth it over ones you can get from other sources for much cheaper. I use the Empire Mods atty which cost 30% and there is only slight differences in performance. Not enough for the huge jump in price. Maybe the HH.357 will last longer but I have been using the EM one for a week now, cleaned it multiple times, and it is still going strong.

Haven't really had any problems with juices yet, some I didn't really like in a setup so I dried different tanks, DDA, or RDA at different wattage and have always managed to find some combination that I enjoy. I just have to figure out what to do with all my 18mg juices (busy cutting them down, but that is going to take a while).


Wow, all the people not liking Mothers Milk and Five Pawns. I ordered samplers from Five Pawns and like all of them. Also been using Mothers Milk in my Atlantis for the last couple of days and enjoying it. Ship them suckers out here to Afghan and they will all be vaped up in less than a week.

 

[VapinWolf]

...- HH.357 Atty: Oh this thing does work great but at $20 I don't feel it is worth it over ones you can get from other sources for much cheaper. I use the Empire Mods atty which cost 30% and there is only slight differences in performance. Not enough for the huge jump in price. Maybe the HH.357 will last longer but I have been using the EM one for a week now, cleaned it multiple times, and it is still...

I don't know if it lasts longer, but I know the price makes it hurt more when you lose it...



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[Circa Survivor]

Gotta add one.

The Reo Grand - I read so much on the Reo how once you get one it will change your life, it's the only mod you'll ever need, squonking is where it's at, etc. I purchased a Reo Grand from the classies along with an RM2. Now the idea of the bottom feeding is great, but I didn't find it all it was cracked up to be. The RM2 first off is like a low end clone. It's just really.... blah. And for $40? No way. Then, you can only have 14-15mm attys, and there are only a few bottom fed ones, and those are outrageously overpriced. Then I got the LP Reo, so I could have more options for attys. Had to convert my attys into bottom feeders, which was a PITA, but it worked well enough. When it was all said and done, I just found myself hating the Reo and wanting to go back to my regulated box mods. Not to mention I ruined all of my attys by drilling and grinding holes in them All in all, I was just not a fan of the Reo.

 

[Necrotic]

Veritas rda.

 

[Chelonian]

Juice is all about opinion, really.
And Circa, I am right there with ya on the REO thing.

To me, any and all drippers are over hyped.
They are all the same. If you have ones with the same type of airflow, as far as I can see, the rest is in your head, and your build.
I must have 15 of the damn things, and for the most part, they all give the same results.


Redacted

 

[cocacola31173]

For me it was the Vamo 2 and 3. On the 2 the threads stripped within a couple of months. Since the design didn't allow ego threading unless you had a 510 to ego connecter it is now a paperweight.

The Vamo 3 was doing good until I accidently tipped it over with a tank on it and the 510 threads stripped. At least with that design I can still you ego threaded tanks on it.

I finally just decided to get a couple of Provari's and after 2 years haven't had to buy anymore devices. I have also went to all Kayfuns. Now my monthly budget is like 10 bucks a month for my DIY and wire.

 

[Circa Survivor]

Juice is all about opinion, really.
And Circa, I am right there with ya on the REO thing.

To me, any and all drippers are over hyped.
They are all the same. If you have ones with the same type of airflow, as far as I can see, the rest is in your head, and your build.
I must have 15 of the damn things, and for the most part, they all give the same results.


Redacted

It really does come down to how you build it and wick it. For a while I kept buying new RDAs thinking the one I just got sucked. I was probably not wicking it right. Now I know how to wick stuff properly lol. I think it also had to do with the juice I was buying. MBV and ECBlends aren't really high quality stuff, and the taste on every one I have purchased was just... off.

 

[jefffrrrrooo]

The itaste VV. I liked it when it worked. I bought 2 of them. One for me and one for GF. They both broke with in 6 weeks. One of them the top rivets came loose so a tank wouldnt sit on it right and wobbled. They both won't read the ohmage and jump around and say "non" and all that. Yes I moved the center pin. I refused to buy anything from that company again. I have a friend who had the same experience.

 

[AndriaD]

Frequency has nothing to do with the output waveform, the filtering circuits control that, and is the same for any PWM circuit. Any current mod that is boosting voltage is using PWM, some filter it, some don't.

The Provari does exactly what their advertising states, regardless of hype by owners. The worst hype I hear for them is about the one button control and menus...."You'll get used to it". Sorry, for me that's like buying a car and being told "it pulls to the left when you use the brakes, but you'll get use to it"

I somewhat agree with that, Stosh. I have a Sigelei Zmax which also has just the one button; it's not a huge deal or anything, you do get used to it after a while, but it's still a hassle to have to go thru the whole menu to get to the thing you want -- I find I use my Vamo almost exclusively nowadays, since it has 3 buttons -- it's more similar to what I got used to at first, with the vv3's 3 buttons. People bash Vamos all the time, but I LOVE mine; it's terrific! Yeah, it's a bit lower-powered, so I just set it a little higher -- no biggie!

Andria