I am diabetic and have seen my glucose rise a bit. Has anyone else had this happen?

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Hey TriciaS. WELCOME TO THE ECF...looks like you've done some posting already. So my suggestion would be to check this section of the forum out and ask some questions there:

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Also, with the percentage of PG/VG it will all depend on preference. For example, if you want more flavor, TH and a little bit of vapor than 100% PG than a 80/20 mix will be good. Although, the higher the VG content. The thicker it is but you get WAY more vapor. That's just a brief explanation since if I explained this in detail it's going to be a pretty darn long post LOL

Hope I helped.
 

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No problem, I noticed that some newbies often stay in the new members forum. Honestly I did the same exact thing for a while but I found that this forum has WAY to much information to pass up. It's worth taking a look around.

I hope that you continue to stay active and enjoy your time on this forum. There's a lot of great people here that are always willing to help.
 

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TriciaS-
My mom's a type 2 diabetic and noticed when she first started vaping that her glucose rose slightly, we believe it has to do with the dehydration vaping can cause. She increased her water intake slightly and her levels returned to their norms. Might be something to consider, just don't over do it, don't want you over hydrating and having you levels drop too low.
 

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Diabetes is affected whenever the body undergoes stress of ANY kind. Cuting back/quitting smoking stresses the body as does dehydration as mentioned earlier. So far not much anecdotal evidence supporting vaping being bad for diabetics exists and the ill effects such as you note with your glucose levels appear to go back to that person's normal or lower once the body gets used to being a non-smoker. It is always wise to bring up your concerns with your health care professionals and not rely on our posts though.
 

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No problem, I noticed that some newbies often stay in the new members forum. Honestly I did the same exact thing for a while but I found that this forum has WAY to much information to pass up. It's worth taking a look around.

I had just done the same thing with the same type of question earlier. Thanks for not jumping down my throat :) I'm still trying to get used to some of the sections on here.

BTW - it's good to see any sort of internet forum like this. Few places you go don't have trolls or people jumping down your throat for minor things.

Diabetes is affected whenever the body undergoes stress of ANY kind. Cuting back/quitting smoking stresses the body as does dehydration as mentioned earlier. So far not much anecdotal evidence supporting vaping being bad for diabetics exists and the ill effects such as you note with your glucose levels appear to go back to that person's normal or lower once the body gets used to being a non-smoker. It is always wise to bring up your concerns with your health care professionals and not rely on our posts though.

As always good advice (rely on a doc for medical advice :p). Smoking should effect it too, I would guess. Be interesting to see what the BS is before and after a analog and before and vaping. I'm basically asking for friends I know who are diabetic and smoke. Still have to figure that smoking is bad..... back in my mis-spent youth had a friend that had to check blood sugar and to screw around one time he checked before and after smoking a "funny cigarette".

On the same token though there doesn't seem to be much research on ecig, let alone vaping and diabetics so that was part of the reason I asked the community in another post. Doesn't seem to be any wild BS spikes.... Reactions to food/chemicals is also a personal thing that varies from person to person (some people have peanut allergies, some have gluten allergies some people have no food allergies).
 
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My blood sugars have increased from 75-120 to 180-230 since I started 1 1/2 yrs ago.
I did not know why until this week.
The last few months I have not been vaping as much (did not exactly quit but the output and amount I vaped with drastically decreased) and my atomizers were not putting out.
I recently purchased new LR atomizers and new liquid this past weekend and started vaping on Monday a.m.
My sugars immediately increased but I do not know if it is the PG/VG mixture or the nicotine.
I dont suspect its just the nicotine as I smoked 1.5 to 2 packs of cigs each day and had better bg control. I have also dipped on rare occasions, and noticed no increase in bg levels the last 1.5 yrs.
I am using 12mg with a 60/40 mix PG/ VG
My fastings have increased as well./ I check my bg 3-4 times daily and this increase is not because I just recently quit smoking as I stopped 1.5 yrs ago.
I 1st noticed the increase 1.5 yrs ago but was puzzled- now feel there is a definite connection. The common denominators are the liquid and increased usage.
 

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ddavis, you might be interested in this. Here's a report from WebMD about glucose levels being affected by quitting smoking...

"smokers who quit had a 70% higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes in the first six years after quitting than people who had never smoked"

"new quitters had significant increases in weight, waistline measurement, and fasting blood sugar levels compared with people who had never smoked"
 

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Nic effects your BS'rs and will raise them, I'm also type2 and mine where much higher from vaping and I've been vaping for 2-1/2yrs now, in my opinion it's a choice, do you want to smoke or vape and try to get your sugars under control somehow. I'm choosing to vape instead of smoke, I also have changed my diet drastically and watch everything I eat and only eat healthy and smaller portions more times a day, this sped up my metabolism and got my sugars back down. I think it is different with each individual though because our bodies ae all different and have a different DNA make up so what works for one may not work for the other. Exercise and diet are the two biggest factors in diabetes control along with taking your meds. Since I changed my diet and started exercising I also was able to lower my dose of diabetic meds.
 
I tend to agree its the nicotine but not 100% certain.

I have been diabetic since the mid 90s-so this didnt happen recently and was not caused by vaping. I also smoked for over 20 yrs 1-2 packs daily.
I saw the glucose levels increase as evidenced by higher A1C levels, when I first started vaping 1 1/2 yrs ago. I quit the cigs immediately at this time and have not looked back.
This past weekend, I stopped vaping from Friday a.m. to Sunday am.
My glucose levels were high for those two days (meaning it stays in my system) then started to level off-until Sunday, when I started back vaping.
I am using 12 mg juice.
I will either have to increase my insulin (my glucose have been perfect the last month due to low output on an atty and seldom vaping).

This is telling me something in the juice (not diet,lack of testing,etc) is causing the problem here.
Its the juice causing me to have high glucose-nothing else. The affects were immediate.

I am going to try 6 mg juice and no nic juice to weed out the answers.
 
This is most likely due to taste for food coming back and as well as appetite suppression from cigs no longer being present.
Does not apply to me though in this case.

ddavis, you might be interested in this. Here's a report from WebMD about glucose levels being affected by quitting smoking...

"smokers who quit had a 70% higher risk of developing type 2 diabetes in the first six years after quitting than people who had never smoked"

"new quitters had significant increases in weight, waistline measurement, and fasting blood sugar levels compared with people who had never smoked"
 
http://http://health.usnews.com/health-news/diet-fitness/diabetes/articles/2011/03/27/nicotine-raises-blood-sugar-levels-in-lab
March 27,2011
In lab experiments, researchers discovered that nicotine raised blood sugar levels, and the more nicotine that was present, the higher the blood sugar levels were. Higher blood sugar levels are linked to an increased risk of complications from diabetes, such as eye and kidney disease.

"Smoking is really harmful for diabetics. It's even more harmful to them than to a non-diabetic," said study author Xiao-Chuan Liu, an associate professor in the department of chemistry at California State Polytechnic University in Pomona. "This study should encourage diabetics to quit smoking completely, and to realize that it's the nicotine that's raising [blood sugar levels]."

For that reason, it's also important to limit the use of nicotine replacement products, such as nicotine patches, Liu said.

"If you're using them for a short period of time to quit smoking, that's OK. But, if you still have this addiction to nicotine and are using this product long-term, it will do harm. Don't use electronic cigarettes or nicotine gum for a long time. You need to stop nicotine intake," he advised.

Liu is scheduled to present his findings Sunday at an American Chemical Society meeting in Anaheim, Calif.

It was already well-established that smoking increased the risk of problems in people with diabetes, Liu said. What hasn't been clear, he said, is if there is a specfic component of cigarettes that increases the risk.

To test whether or not nicotine, an addictive substance found in cigarette smoke, contributed to higher blood sugar levels, Liu and his colleagues added equal amounts of glucose (sugar) to samples of human red blood cells. They also added varying levels of nicotine to each sample of red blood cells for either one day or two days.

They then tested the hemoglobin A1C (HbA1C) levels of the samples. HbA1C is a measure of what percentage of red blood cells have glucose molecules attached to them. In diabetes management, the HbA1C -- sometimes referred to just as A1C -- test gives doctors an idea of average blood sugar levels for the past three months or so. Most people with diabetes strive for a level of 7 percent or less, based on American Diabetes Association guidelines.

The researchers found that nicotine raised HbA1C. The smallest dose increased HbA1C levels by 8.8 percent. The highest dose -- after two days of nicotine treatment -- increased blood sugar levels by 34.5 percent.

"Nicotine is a toxic substance, and our results show that nicotine caused an increase in HbA1C," said Liu. "This is important for the public to know, and for smokers to know. It's not just the cigarette smoke. If you think you can just use a nicotine replacement product indefinitely, there's still a risk, and your chances of getting complications will be a lot higher," he cautioned.

Dr. Joel Zonszein, director of the Clinical Diabetes Center at Montefiore Medical Center in New York City, said that the researchers showed that nicotine can significantly raise A1C levels in the lab, but it's important to also know if it does so in the body.

But whether or not nicotine is the specific reason that blood sugar levels are higher in smokers, he said, "Everybody -- whether they have diabetes or not -- should stop smoking. Patients with diabetes already have a much higher risk of cardiovascular disease, and smoking adds to that."

He said that using nicotine replacement products for a month or two is fine. "If nicotine replacement is used for a short period of time with smoking cessation as the goal, there's no risk. But it's not OK if someone plans to replace smoking with nicotine replacement products indefinitely," said Zonszein.

Experts note that research presented at meetings is considered preliminary until it is published in a peer-reviewed journal.
 
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