I bought an Iolite

[frogbmth]

Do you mean that you had to suck hard to get air through it? If so that will be your placing of the cotton wool. If you mean you got no vapour, that will be just a case of the material not warming through properly either due to placement, lots of cotton or the location of the drops on the wool. It just takes experimentation to get used to using it the way you like it.

Removing the lower screen is good because firstly it does nothing but get messy and is hard to cleam, and secondly it stops you pushing the cotton down into the very bottom of the bowl where it is best placed.

 

[HokieSmokie]

Yes, hard to draw and you are probably right .. probably doing everything wrong, combined or one at a time .. yes, it takes lots of getting used to .. Just got home and soon I will try taking the bottom screen out as well. I will post my efforts and results. I know one thing though .. The warm vapor makes it much more like smoking a cigarette than all of the ecigs .. Maybe my Iolite needs some glitter or something pretty.

 

[HokieSmokie]

Removed the screen and replaced the cotton. This time I did NOT use and VG on the cotton at all and the flavor was 100% better. Not as much vapor but no ugly after tastel Maybe add a few drops of VG to the juice for more vapor? I will find a nearly empty bottle of juice for trial ..

BUTANE Question .. I know that some people vape like they are smoking a cigarette .. then put it down and come back for their next smoke later .. I only want a couple of hits at a time .. Coming back a half hour later .. That's my USUAL habit .. sometimes I vape vape vape A LOT .. Should I still fill up with butane .. or just use a little at a time ...

Last question for now .. How close to the pin do you drip AND

With attys you put in as much juice as the atty will hold, I take it I don't want to do that with the cotton ..

AND .. I didn't see Tims video with the gauze, only the cotton. .. where is it ?? He mentions he is going to show both, but doesn't in the video I watched.

 

[Stormynights]

I like my Iolite but it will never be my main PV. I got it in case of power outages. It is working very well for me with a tiny piece of cotton dampened with VG and a couple of drops of eliquid. The flavor is awesome and it is so easy to clean. I am very satisfied with it. I use it before bedtime. I can't see me using it much in the summer though. It would also make a nice hand warmer.

 

[JustJulie]

Hey JJ nice to see you around! Glad you are still enjoying your IO.

I've had my Iolite for 5 months now, and it hasn't given me a moment's problem. Now that wintertime is rolling around, I expect it will get more use. As others have noted, it's a wonderful hand-warmer.

I've used it with molasses, but at this point, I'm pretty much 100% dedicated to the use of liquid with it . . . far easier and much less clean-up. I'm very excited about Tim's liquid coming on the market and your preliminary two-thumbs up on the liquid.

The price is a bit steep, but after 5 months, the only cost associated with my Iolite (other than the initial purchase price) is the cost of liquid and two bottles of butane (dirt cheap). Oh, yeah . . . and some organic cotton to hold the liquid.

I originally purchased it as my ultimate backup device, one that required no batteries or chargers, no atomizers, and no liquid (because you can always get herbal molasses or tobacco). I was kind of surprised, though, at how much I came to love the device.

I owe much of my success with the device to you, Frog.

 

[mart.hart]

the idea on a thread on this forum.
Soak a couple of Snus in 20 Ml of VG for a couple of days
There are all sorts of ways to do this some micro wave or boiling water.
Can’t find the thread now wish I had book marked it.

It makes a really smooth smoke, not as harsh as E-Juice and the satisfaction is amazing.
Using the same mix in my janty stick I could vape it all day but with the Iolite after 10 mins I know I have had a “smoke” and smoking is just what it feels like.

I also use tea bags for the fill (empty) as they do not burn up as bad as cotton wool but there must be a better fill material out there.

Cost of vaping is now about £1 a week for gas and liquid

Mart
Ps, if you use molasses wrap it in the corner of a tea bag, keeps things nice and clean

Pps anyone in the UK want to buy a roll of snus (mocca) I ordered far too much

 

[mart.hart]

I cant edit the mistake I made in my last post, which is a pain as I make a lot of em.

Should start off.......

I have started making my own juice for the Iolite and it works really well.

I found the idea on a thread on this forum.

 

[mart.hart]

There was a product available some time ago that people would put in the spout of a tea pot.
It was like stainless steel wire wool and it would catch any stray tea leaves.
Ring any bells with anyone ?

 

[smokindeuce]

Yes, hard to draw and you are probably right .. probably doing everything wrong, combined or one at a time .. yes, it takes lots of getting used to .. Just got home and soon I will try taking the bottom screen out as well. I will post my efforts and results. I know one thing though .. The warm vapor makes it much more like smoking a cigarette than all of the ecigs .. Maybe my Iolite needs some glitter or something pretty.

I expect the hard draw is due to too much cotton wool blocking the air ways. As Andy mentions, it's best to have an experiment with different size cotton wool pieces but don't go too big.

The larger the piece of cotton, the more it will tighten up the draw.... so a medium sized piece would ideally be a good middle ground = slightly tighter draw and still a size to retain the liquid.

Removed the screen and replaced the cotton. This time I did NOT use and VG on the cotton at all and the flavor was 100% better. Not as much vapor but no ugly after tastel Maybe add a few drops of VG to the juice for more vapor? I will find a nearly empty bottle of juice for trial ..

BUTANE Question .. I know that some people vape like they are smoking a cigarette .. then put it down and come back for their next smoke later .. I only want a couple of hits at a time .. Coming back a half hour later .. That's my USUAL habit .. sometimes I vape vape vape A LOT .. Should I still fill up with butane .. or just use a little at a time ...

It only takes around 3-5 seconds to completely fill the iolite with butane.... I would personally just vape it until empty to get a feel for how long it will go before refill (+/-50 minutes), then you will have a feel for when to top it up in between vapes.

Last question for now .. How close to the pin do you drip AND

With attys you put in as much juice as the atty will hold, I take it I don't want to do that with the cotton ..

AND .. I didn't see Tims video with the gauze, only the cotton. .. where is it ?? He mentions he is going to show both, but doesn't in the video I watched.

Video should be at the bottom of this page here.... I will try to do a close up video on both methods to show the setup in more detail...

I like my Iolite but it will never be my main PV. I got it in case of power outages. It is working very well for me with a tiny piece of cotton dampened with VG and a couple of drops of eliquid. The flavor is awesome and it is so easy to clean. I am very satisfied with it. I use it before bedtime. I can't see me using it much in the summer though. It would also make a nice hand warmer.

Glad you're enjoying your iolite stormy - it is certainly peace of mind for when you are away from power or in the event of a power cut.

There is always plenty of room for experimenting also to get the best from it in the event of your ecig not being available for what ever reason.... although its best to get the experimenting done while you still have your ecig to avoid slipping back on the band wagon.....

I've had my Iolite for 5 months now, and it hasn't given me a moment's problem. Now that wintertime is rolling around, I expect it will get more use. As others have noted, it's a wonderful hand-warmer.

I've used it with molasses, but at this point, I'm pretty much 100% dedicated to the use of liquid with it . . . far easier and much less clean-up. I'm very excited about Tim's liquid coming on the market and your preliminary two-thumbs up on the liquid.

The price is a bit steep, but after 5 months, the only cost associated with my Iolite (other than the initial purchase price) is the cost of liquid and two bottles of butane (dirt cheap). Oh, yeah . . . and some organic cotton to hold the liquid.

I originally purchased it as my ultimate backup device, one that required no batteries or chargers, no atomizers, and no liquid (because you can always get herbal molasses or tobacco). I was kind of surprised, though, at how much I came to love the device.

I owe much of my success with the device to you, Frog.

Hey Julie - good to see you and hear your iolite's still going strong!

The price does certainly pay off in the long run, and there are many different ways of using the iolite to find your own preference.... as you'll know, experimentation is key to finding what works for you.... that is the attraction for a lot of people....

I think the new liquid will raise the bar a notch for people like you wanting to only use a nicotine based liquid in the iolite....

the idea on a thread on this forum.
Soak a couple of Snus in 20 Ml of VG for a couple of days
There are all sorts of ways to do this some micro wave or boiling water.
Can’t find the thread now wish I had book marked it.

It makes a really smooth smoke, not as harsh as E-Juice and the satisfaction is amazing.
Using the same mix in my janty stick I could vape it all day but with the Iolite after 10 mins I know I have had a “smoke” and smoking is just what it feels like.

I also use tea bags for the fill (empty) as they do not burn up as bad as cotton wool but there must be a better fill material out there.

Cost of vaping is now about £1 a week for gas and liquid

Mart
Ps, if you use molasses wrap it in the corner of a tea bag, keeps things nice and clean

Pps anyone in the UK want to buy a roll of snus (mocca) I ordered far too much

Great tip Mart - you've just given me the bug to dig out that old snus tin for some more experimenting... also great tip with using a teabag to hold the molasses will try that too as soon as I get the chance...

Another one for you to try in your iolite would be tobacco based molasses.... they come in all the flavours, already have VG in but most importantly contain nicotine.

 

[frogbmth]

I just got a nice delivery of tobacco molasses from hookahjohn today so thats me set for the weekend

 

[HokieSmokie]

REGARDING TIM'S "GAUZE METHOD" OF VAPING:
I don't remember seeing any 'disks' in my new iolite .. I will look when I get home:

• what are they made of ?
• How often do you change them ?

I hope I have the parts I originally removed .. I will look when I get home ..

Diane

PS ... I was sitting there with a roll of gauze ... the material you use for a bandage .. I guess I can put that back in the medicine cabinet, huh ??

 

[smokindeuce]

REGARDING TIM'S "GAUZE METHOD" OF VAPING:
I don't remember seeing any 'disks' in my new iolite .. I will look when I get home:

• what are they made of ?
• How often do you change them ?

I hope I have the parts I originally removed .. I will look when I get home ..

Diane

PS ... I was sitting there with a roll of gauze ... the material you use for a bandage .. I guess I can put that back in the medicine cabinet, huh ??

They don't come as standard with iolites from any other sellers....we only add them in as an extra so people have the option to try this method with e-liquid.

They are 10mm stainless steel finely woven gauze discs - I'm sure you'll probably be able to get them from most local head shops... when stacked in the iolite, they work well as a liquid retainer.... similar to the steel mesh in an atomiser....

 

[laurel099]

So... Does anyone know if the e-liquid being made for the Iolite will contain VG??

I'm worried about the use of glyercin in the Iolite. They heat to a temp of 374F if I remember correctly and at that high temp there may be some bad juju coming off the glycerin... Anyone know about this stuff??

When heated above 280 °C, glycerin decomposes forming acrolein, a toxic, corrosive gas.

http://membership.acs.org/c/ccs/pubs/CLIPS/JCE20030025.pdf

I have 2 Iolites and LOVE them but I've never used liquid in them.

 

[frogbmth]

The Iolite maintains a temperature of 190C, more than safe for VG

 

[laurel099]

Cool. Thanks! I was just trying to look that up! I've never tried liquid in the Iolites, something to give a whirl

 

[frogbmth]

I was lucky enough to test the Iolite liquid and it's well worth trying when it is released. It opens a whole new world for us

EDIT - Did I say that already? lol

 

[smokindeuce]

The new iolite liquid has both pg and vg, but as Frog has already pointed out the thermo regulated 190 degrees running temperature is well below the tipping point at which VG converts to acrolein.

In fact I suspect you have more chance of this happening with an ecig by holding down a manual switch for extended periods.... ever wondered what that funny smell was when you try to clean your atomiser by burning it dry?....

Acrolein is also one of the many byproducts of cigarette smoking, but funnily enough I never even knew about it until I started e-smoking and getting all health conscious like.

It also appears there is little to no evidence to suggest it is a carcinogen although inhaling vast quantities clearly isn't good:

Acrolein is an intense irritant and displays a range of toxic effects.
​

Levels of acrolein in cigarette smoke are 18–98 μg per cigarette. Acrolein is an intense irritant and displays a range of toxic effects, including cilia toxicity. With the exception of one study in which bladder tumors were produced by an initiation–promotion protocol in rats treated with acrolein (by i.p. injection) followed by dietary uracil, no carcinogenic effects of acrolein have been reported, perhaps because of efficient scavenging by glutathione and related sulfhydryls . An International Agency for Research on Cancer working group concluded that there was inadequate evidence for its carcinogenicity in experimental animals . Acrolein is widely believed to be responsible for the bladder toxicity of the chemotherapeutic agent cyclophosphamide. Thus, in laboratory animals, the carcinogenicity of acrolein, if it exists at all, is clearly substantially less than that of PAH or tobacco-specific nitrosamines.

 

[laurel099]

Wow! Thanks for that! I was reading about Acrolein but you summed it up nicely!!

I am looking forward to trying this e-liquid made for the Iolites... Amazing after over 25 years of analogs... I never worried about the health stuff... Now I'm evolving

Is there a way for us to find out when the liquid becomes available?? I'm game to try it.

Appreciate the great responses!!