I call it..."My Mod" !!Warning...graphic intense!!

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nicotime

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Sorry about the pic sizes......

I have been using this setup for a few months now and it aint pretty but it works good for me... so I figured I would put it up here. Some of you may have seen it already but it may help (or confuse) some others here also. Its not for everybody for sure...especially if you switch flavors a lot...but switching to another atty only takes a minute anyway. It holds about 2.6ml. It can be made as long or short as you want. I can take the atty out...clean it with PGA...dry burn the wick or replace it...and throw it back in the mod in about 5 minutes and its good to go for a week or so. It is a simple design that can be altered to the way you want. It can use up to a 28ga coil...any ohm you want...and any wick you want...SS or silica...take yor pick. I wind my coils around a 3/32" bit...and keep the wick thick but not real tight. Also the way I have the reversal of the loop in the middle (in the bottom pics) seems to keep the heat centered in the coil.

The atty consist of a 13mm ID x 15mm OD Pyrex or quartz glass tubing 2.75" long. I have both types and it makes no difference...though I feel better using the more durable quartz tube. I'm using 13ga teflon .074"ID air intake with a 4mm .157" ID pyrex tube mouthpiece that is just right for me. I think the intake tube size is more important as long as the mouthpiece is bigger. You can use a different size to make it airy or tighter...but having the air rushing in at the coil helps the vaporization.

The white food grade silicone for the plugs is the best I have found as far as having absolutely no taste and very tough and tear resistant...and I have tried quite a few brands and types. Anything the right shape can be used to mold them...just make the plugs a little bigger than the ID of the tube. Then I punch half moon cuts in the sides of the divider for the wick and press the brass rods thru and slide it up over the springs. The bottom plug just punch the rods thru to align with the connector. I also made the white sleeve over the mouthpiece with FG silicone...easier on the teeth than the glass tube.

The 1/32 brass rod posts are drilled with a .013" hole...an adventure for sure but if my shaky hands can do it anyone can. I made a jig by drilling a 1/16" brass tube first then slide the rod inside to start the hole. The 1/16" brass tubing center piece pushes the spring down to access the hole for the coil. First I solder the bottom ring...then add the spring and movable tube...compress it and stick a 28ga wire thru the hole to hold it...then put the top part on pressed down tight against the wire and solder that on using a leadfree solder. You could do it without the top piece...but I use it to have more surface contact with the coil and to absorb heat away from the sliding tube and spring. Nitinol springs work very well and can be cut to any length...it come in 21" lengths and will make a lot of attys.. or if your kid has braces you can get some free when they are sleeping lol. Use at least 3/8" or so...and slide the silicone and divider/support over them to keep the cleaner. To change coils I use pointed tweezers and slide it in between the contact points until its free...pull out the old coil and in with the new...same for the other post.

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I run the wick thru the coil about 1/3 of the way...then run a piece of wire folded back thru and grab another bite of the 2/3 side and pull a loop of that thru to make it look like its a bow....the added bulk hanging there replenishes the coil faster so you dont have to wait for it to wick from the tank.
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The + wires run down thru two drilled holes in the web of the mod between the batt and atty...then the holes in the bottom are sealed up.



This is about a month with no cleaning at all...I usually clean the atty every week though...and wipe the mouthpiece with PGA daily.

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Links for the materials...

Glass tubing: National Scientific Company - Quartz Tube, Tubing & Rod

Food Grade silicone: you could go in with someone and split a 1/2 gal 4 ways and have plenty to work with... AeroMarine Food Grade Silicone MoldMaking Rubber

Wick: MSC Item Detail

Brass rod & tubing: K&S Solid Brass Rod 1/32" (25) K+S1602 - eBay (item 160586158825 end time Sep-06-11 07:49:04 PDT)

Nitinol retention spring: # 5140 .014 x .036ID $22.95 each DCA - The Orthodontic Buyers Guide - Archwire - NITI Open Coil Springs

Teflon tubing:MSC Item Detail

Mosfet & 3A main slide switch: Digi-Key - IRLU3114ZPBF-ND (Manufacturer - IRLU3114ZPBF)

Atty connector (blue)...2-Position PC Board Terminals - RadioShack.com

Tact switch...any will work...or use a 3A switch and do away with the mosfet completely.



This can be set up in a regular box mod being sure to make a divider to insulate the battery from heat of the atty...but if you want to get in to the expense of molding urethane resins and siilicone molds..below are some links and pics of how I did it. You can also go here to see my earlier casting adventures..it wasnt pretty. LOL

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/110368-cast-resin-juicer.html

Getting the hinge and magnets embedded takes the most time...I magnets to act both as a guide pin and to hold it closed. Also..since the wires coming down from the switch thru the drilled holes then out the cutout at the bottom..its a PITA soldering them to the board as I can only leave enough wire to get it to the board in position as there is no where for excess wire. Same for the top...the main pos wire runs straight down from the main switch into the drilled hole so I had to solder everything in place at the top..guide the wire down and set everything in place at the same time...then I poured the resin around it to set it. No extra space in this thing at all. The white stuff around the switches and connector is the same resin used to make the box but with no color added. I use it instead of epoxy or glue as it bonds to the mod best...it foams up when not very thick but it makes for a solid mounting and is easy to carve away the excess when its almost cured.

I also want to make it an all magnetic enclosure as the hinge is really a pain cutting a .040" wide groove .2" deep and 1.5" long in both halves that have only a wall thickness of about .1" to begin with. The hinges are from glasses case.

Alumilite - Products - Dyes - Fillers - Synthetic Clay

AeroMarine Products - Casting Resin


The brown parts are the Sculpey clay that was baked and shaped to make the first molds. The yellow is the silicone mold.

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Complaints and negative comments are welcome..please click here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sandbox/
 

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Thanks guys....no leaks...I might get a drop or two out of the mouthpiece tube when I have it in my pants pocket mowing due to the condensation in the tube...but no...no leaks. The silicone divider airlocks the juice when turned upside down...and even if some does flow down it then needs to fill up high enough to reach the top of the intake and MP tubes.

Yes it is some work initially but once you have it finished its just a matter of cleaning and refilling. Like I said it can be broken down in minutes and a dry burn and PGA rinse and its just like it was first built.

For someone that is rough on a mod the best thing is its protected...and the silicone plugs have a lot of give so the tube that sticks out just pushes sideways instead of breaking. I one is really rough I would use a plastic tube for the mouthpiece though...but you would have to keep it away from the coil. Having the tube able to almost rest on top the coil you can adjust how warm your vape is without burning it.

Forgot to add....I fill it right down the mouthpiece tube with a syringe I have a piece of teflon tube on..just snake it past the coil and down thru by the wick hole. It can also be injected at the bottom plug too if need be. I only need to fill it twice a day so no big deal.

When I open the case the atty flexes outward enough to even take the top plug and tubes out without taking it off the connector pins.

Not for everyone definitely...just though it would stir some thought in to the pot.
 
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Looks Awesome Nicotime, hows it run and taste and vapor production on this Mod ? The only question I have is the Brass ? is it safe to be using Brass ? I would think SS would be much better myself. As for the set up and how you did the Atty thought it looks super, is that also the Omega XC-116 Wick material your using ? Like this thing very different , cool, and original at that, Nice Job !


Edit, I can see it is not the XC-116 WICK
 
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i like the the use of silicon for plugs, ez to work with, and the brass tubes. could you use the spring connectors like on dans and just wrap wire around and use tension to hold wire. in all i would say this is a fine mod

You could do it several ways fore sure...I wanted a solid mechanical "bite" into the coil wire. Before this I was just running the coil wire down 1/32" tube and crimping the tube over it...and even with that once the juice would get on the connection and carbonize it would start getting hot spots and the resistance would vary. Wire will expand and contract (creep) thru the cycles...and when it does it invites the chance of getting stuff between the wire and connector...and once that happens you start to loose power to the coil. Thats the way I see it anyway.

Looks Awesome Nicotime, hows it run and taste and vapor production on this Mod ? The only question I have is the Brass ? is it safe to be using Brass ? I would think SS would be much better myself. As for the set up and how you did the Atty thought it looks super, is that also the Omega XC-116 Wick material your using ? Like this thing very different , cool, and original at that, Nice Job !


Edit, I can see it is not the XC-116 WICK

I'm not too worried about the brass...considering the two rods are .030" in diameter and surface area in contact with the juice is less than a 1/4 square inch. Even if it is leaded brass at 3%...the amount of leaching would be really minute. SS would be fine but be fun to drill and add resistance...if you can find it in small rod form.

Yeah the wick is from MSC....I take the whole sleeve and swish it around in boiling water with a drop of dish soap....then repeat with no soap for rinses...then soak it in PGA..wrap it in a paper towel then let it air dry. By the time you do that the sleeve is already expanded and unweaving...very easy to pull the separate strands apart. Then each strand has 6-7 smaller strands...so you can gather as many as you want to make a wick.

In fact I worry about the silica more than the metals leaching. If you use silica never let it go dry in the atty...that is when any stray particles could get inhaled. As long as its wet I think the chances are slim getting any small enough to inhale. I usually wet it with a little PG when building the atty to make it easier to work and prevent any flying fibers.


Great work!! That is a nice mod! OMG that atty looks like it would melt your face...LOL. Is it a juice hog?

I go thru about 5-6ml a day. Before this atty I used CE2's and used 36mg juice. With this I about hacked up a lung when I first hit it...I dropped down to about 20mg now and it still give a kick to the throat...so I would say it is very efficient at least.

The heat gets absorbed by the glass tube and stays pretty much in the center of the tube by the coil...so no problem with heat.


Thou art an extremely dedicated individual.... I didn't see where you said what wire you were using for the coil. Nichrome, Kanthal, ?

I have both...I think that is Kanthal in the pics.

Dedicated..meh...I just wanted something I didnt have to poke and prod every time I wanted to vape and easy to maintain...so I went with simple and it worked out.


cool nico, can i borrow your drip tip?

:laugh::laugh: Sure why not...as long as you use the correct orifice this time!! :laugh::laugh:

That is really impressive work. One way to get a feeling for how a carto works is to design your own. Wow.


Any particular reason you didn't wind you own battery?

(just kidding).

Rocket

Well I was thinking of my own battery...but then I envisioned what would happen when walking around in public with that sack of potatoes on my back with wires running out of the sack to my mod!! :laugh::laugh:

Thanks again everyone for the comments and likes! :toast:
 

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And for a limited time only you can get two Easy Dual Coils...yes two coils for just $9.99....just pay separate shipping and handling of $565.95 each!! Steady hands sold separately!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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Just a quick throw together guys....the rods would need to be centered more in the plugs instead of offset. This would be suicidal though. :facepalm::vapor:
 
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