I decided to go lower...

[John_]

I first started rebuildables with an IGO-L, 32 Gauge Kanthal, and ekowool. I quickly went to other fancy rebuildables built with 28 Gauge Kanthal and cotton. Well, yesterday I decided to try something. I decided to try building with 22 Gauge Kanthal, the only place I found with it in stock (don't want to buy a few feet for a few dollars) was Kidney Puncher. I figure I'm going to use it a lot so I got the 250 foot spool. I think it will be fun to build with, it's around twice as thick as 28 Gauge and the resistance per inch is way lower so I can get bigger coils to spread out the power I'll get from sub-ohm coils.

Anybody use 22 Gauge as their normal building wire? Tips?

 

[BobC]

WHat you driving it with, a car battery?

 

[Jazzi Mike]

Through an error with Temco, they sent me 26 gauge Nichrome instead of what I ordered. I have messed around with it a few times. It can be a pain to get it into the holes of my Reomizer. I have use 15+ wraps to get anywhere the resistance I am looking for. It is a bit slow to heat up.

This was from 26 Nichrome, which basically is 25 gauge Kanthal. I tend to shoot for 1.5 ohms in my builds for micro coils. You may like lower resistance and in that case, you should be able to use it (as for how well, anyone's guess...). 250 feet though? That is a huge amount of wire to experiment with! I wish you luck, my friend.

 

[spaceman84]

Something tells me you're going to regret this purchase when you figure out that you will need to make enormous coils that take forever to heat up. They may not even fit inside your atomizer. Why did you think this would be a good idea?

 

[John_]

Something tells me you're going to regret this purchase when you figure out that you will need to make enormous coils that take forever to heat up. They may not even fit inside your atomizer. Why did you think this would be a good idea?

I'm going to make 0.3-0.5 Ohm dual coil setups with the 22 gauge, it will be fine.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

I'm going to make 0.3-0.5 Ohm dual coil setups with the 22 gauge, it will be fine.

Those 2 inch long coils are gonna take forever to heat up in the 10 inch diameter atty you'll need to build to mount them in.

 

[John_]

Those 2 inch long coils are gonna take forever to heat up in the 10 inch diameter atty you'll need to build to mount them in.

I don't follow, why would the coils be 2 inches long? 10 inch diameter atomizer? Do you mean milimeters? To get a 0.2 Ohm dual coil I would need two coils that are about 8mm long (wrapping around a 14 gauge needle). For my desired resistance 0.3, it would be two 12mm coils which would still fit perfectly in the RDA. I haven't used 22 gauge before though so I might end up liking 0.2 though. The RDA I'm going to be using is 22mm wide, plenty of room.

 

[Spacedoutart]

Yes. 22 gauge wire has less resistance per foot. However at thickness of 22 gauge it take a while for it to heat up. You will even notice this difference when playing with 30 gauge and 28 gauge. 30 gauge heats up faster then the 28.

 

[bender817]

If you like a lot of flavor and wanna go that low I would recommend you try some .8mm kanthal ribbon. Its fun stuff at 3-4 wraps. Just make sure you ohm it.

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[BobC]

I don't follow, why would the coils be 2 inches long? 10 inch diameter atomizer? Do you mean milimeters? To get a 0.2 Ohm dual coil I would need two coils that are about 8mm long (wrapping around a 14 gauge needle). For my desired resistance 0.3, it would be two 12mm coils which would still fit perfectly in the RDA. I haven't used 22 gauge before though so I might end up liking 0.2 though. The RDA I'm going to be using is 22mm wide, plenty of room.

Don't know where your getting your numbers from, but 22awg is 1.3 ohm per foot, so to get to .03 dual coil, you would need two 5.5 inch coils, 12 mm is less then half an inch.

I guess st0nedpenguin is underestimating the size of the atomizer you would need

 

[edyle]

I'm going to make 0.3-0.5 Ohm dual coil setups with the 22 gauge, it will be fine.

I think you should go in the opposite direction; use thinner wire in a quadcoil parallel.

But the advantage of the big wire is it is harder to burn out; so how about using that 22 gauge wire to wind a few coils in one continuous series - effectively 1 long coil but you can wind it in sections to have different wicks though each section.

 

[Krazirob]

im gonna reply just to see what else is said here......

i have used 24G and it heats up pretty good.....thats where i get my cloud chasing coils from......making a .3ohm coil on a full battery given voltage drop will send about 12A through the coils which for the 24 g is just right......i couldn't see the 22g making that much of a difference visually or vapor production wise.......

also its all in how the coil is made whether the diameter is going to be big or not......touching not touching etc......

but ill be in the corner listening

 

[steel bender]

Don't know where your getting your numbers from, but 22awg is 1.3 ohm per foot, so to get to .03 dual coil, you would need two 5.5 inch coils, 12 mm is less then half an inch.

I guess st0nedpenguin is underestimating the size of the atomizer you would need

Umm, actually, 5.5 inches of wire, wrapped around say, an 1/8 inch drill bit, really isn't very big at all. The real issue here is the heat up time. I think 28g can take a long time to heat up, 22 sounds like it would take forever...

 

[bender817]

I like what Krazirob said. Just wanna point out how low the ohm load would have to be. With that stuff you could probably cloud chase with single coils instead of dividing that wattage between two. If you did two and they are short enough to heat up you may end up dangerously sub-ohm. It may take some trial and error before you even get to fire em up. If you're gonna go for it I wanna know what results you get. Good luck and be safe.

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[savagemann]

Here is a 10/11 wrap of 24ga.
I think it is sitting around .6ohm.
It heats up a little slow for me.
The vape is ok.
I much prefer the faster heat time of 27 or 28ga around .8-.9ohm though.
22ga would make some huge coils!

 

[John_]

The 22 gauge is coming on on Thursday, Should have some pics and a video up Thursday night or Friday with my results.

 

[Krazirob]

Those thicker wires do great when sub ohming in the .3 and below I think. If you wanna do a .6 or higher the 28g is gonna be as thick as I would go. I have made both a single coil and dual coil at .3 ohms with 26g and twisted 28g which makes the diameter a little thicker and wow it heats up quick. Now yes the twisted wire is a totally different ball game but in terms of heating up slowly I've noticed that the higher the ohms and thicker the wire the slower the heat.

So stay low like the OP intends too. Lol

 

[steel bender]

Those thicker wires do great when sub ohming in the .3 and below I think. If you wanna do a .6 or higher the 28g is gonna be as thick as I would go. I have made both a single coil and dual coil at .3 ohms with 26g and twisted 28g which makes the diameter a little thicker and wow it heats up quick. Now yes the twisted wire is a totally different ball game but in terms of heating up slowly I've noticed that the higher the ohms and thicker the wire the slower the heat.

So stay low like the OP intends too. Lol

Any comparison on how fast the twisted 28g heats up. I watched rip trippers vid where he twists some 28 and makes a micro coil with it, looked pretty interesting.

 

[John_]

Any comparison on how fast the twisted 28g heats up. I watched rip trippers vid where he twists some 28 and makes a micro coil with it, looked pretty interesting.

The wire "heating up" has to do with the wattage you're getting and the amount of wire you're applying that power to. Generally the thicker the wire the slower it will heat up because there is more wire to distribute the heat to. Now thicker wire has a lower resistance so the with the same length a thicker wire would give you more power but the power would end up being distributed across more wire.

 

[Vwls]

Twisted 26 gauge has been my go-to lately. Personally, being a single-coil kind of girl, I can't see a point to going any thicker/lower. Five wraps gets me between .4 and .5 ohms which is the lowest I'd want to go - heats up fast and vapor production is ridiculous (pushes in the neighborhood of 40 watts (at 10.5 amps, calculating for a fresh battery). If the OP is looking to do dual coil, obv he needs to move up gauges, not down. If single coil is the plan, I guess 22 gauge might be interesting - would eliminate the need to twist. Let us know how slow it is to heat up and post some pics of your coil(s).