I don't feel any better.

[melissa1928]

Well, it's been several months since I switched from smoking to vaping. I smoke one real cigarette every 3-5 days, otherwise it's just vaping. I don't feel any better, or any different at all.

My wind has not improved. My senses of taste and smell have not improved (although they were fine to begin with, so I wasn't expecting much). I don't have more energy. I'm not awakening more refreshed -- a bit in the opposite direction, if anything.

I'm just my tired middle-aged lump of a self, just as I was when I smoked.

Some of the flavors taste good. I can vape in places I'm not allowed to smoke. Other than that, I'm not seeing a whole lot of advantages. I haven't had that "OMG I feel so amazing now!" experience.

So, come on, 'fess up -- are you just saying you feel amazing now to get people to try vaping? Now's the time to let me in on the joke, because I totally fell for it.

Contrariwise, if you do feel amazing now, what am I doing wrong? I vape a fair bit of WTA and also a fair bit of nic-only. I vape a lot and I do it at the 24mg level. I have to do both of those things to avoid smoking more real cigarettes. I still have one or two real cigarettes over the course of a week, but it's hard to imagine that making a huge difference. It's not a binary state of smokes at all / doesn't smoke at all.

Maybe this is just the way I naturally feel, and the cigarettes weren't really hurting me.

 

[Jhutt]

Same story here, no difference. I'm in the military and we run a lot.. from smoking to vaping there is literally no difference in myself. All the stuff you listed sounds like me as well to the T. I'm still waiting on that magic moment haha

 

[alisa1970]

I'm the same, in fact since I started vaping I got sicker than I have ever been in my life. But, I know that smoking for 30 years wasn't doing me any favors. It took me 6 months to completely quit--I would go without smoking for a month or two, then have 1-2 a day for a week or so, then get back on the horse. I haven't had one now in 6 months.

I didn't quit smoking to be healthier--in fact I never intended to quit, so my expectations were already pretty low. I will say that I AM breathing better, and I don't have the coughing daily, and I can sleep on my side without crackly lungs.

I haven't noticed that my sense of smell or taste has gotten any better, but I DO taste more in my juices than I used to.

I have no desire to go back to smoking, despite that I now have a chronic disease that requires doctor's visits every six weeks, and I am now waiting for an endocrinologist consult. I just like vaping better.

If you are interested in hanging out with a group of people that have had or are still going through similar struggles, it was my home thread for nearly a year. They will welcome you without judgment, and they're a pretty fun crowd. I've moved on now that I'm done smoking but I do follow the thread still. Stop by and say hello.

If you're at all curious, you can read a condensed version of my story that I shared in that thread.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...king-support-chat-thread-27.html#post12029620

 

[inanitydefined]

Sorry to hear this guys. Its been a while now, but it was quite a difference for me. Went from downing two energy drinks every morning to not even a cup of coffee to be awake and alert. I guess it might be different for everyone. Try dropping the WTA from the mix for a month, see what happens then. And more importantly, kill those last few cigarettes a week. Your lungs need to recover, they can't do that if you keep coating them in tar

 

[RosaJ]

It's not going to hit you all at once. Depending on your age you may realize one day that you're doing something you weren't doing before. In my case, I no longer need a CPAP machine to sleep, I breathe all night without problems. I don't toss and turn all night, I sometimes wake up in the same position I fell asleep in and I sleep like a baby for 10 hours at a time (I'm 65 years old). I can go a flight of stairs without getting winded. I haven't had a cold since I started vaping 2 years ago.

All of these things are quite amazing for me, others may just take these things for granted. I can't tell you how you will feel, only you will be able to recognize any changes in time.

 

[zapped]

Well, it's been several months since I switched from smoking to vaping. I smoke one real cigarette every 3-5 days, otherwise it's just vaping. I don't feel any better, or any different at all.

My wind has not improved. My senses of taste and smell have not improved (although they were fine to begin with, so I wasn't expecting much). I don't have more energy. I'm not awakening more refreshed -- a bit in the opposite direction, if anything.

I'm just my tired middle-aged lump of a self, just as I was when I smoked.

Some of the flavors taste good. I can vape in places I'm not allowed to smoke. Other than that, I'm not seeing a whole lot of advantages. I haven't had that "OMG I feel so amazing now!" experience.

So, come on, 'fess up -- are you just saying you feel amazing now to get people to try vaping? Now's the time to let me in on the joke, because I totally fell for it.

Contrariwise, if you do feel amazing now, what am I doing wrong? I vape a fair bit of WTA and also a fair bit of nic-only. I vape a lot and I do it at the 24mg level. I have to do both of those things to avoid smoking more real cigarettes. I still have one or two real cigarettes over the course of a week, but it's hard to imagine that making a huge difference. It's not a binary state of smokes at all / doesn't smoke at all.

Maybe this is just the way I naturally feel, and the cigarettes weren't really hurting me.

You answered your own question in the first sentence. You need to stop smoking altogether and stop calling them "real' cigarettes".

What does that make vaping? Fake cigarettes? It's self defeating and insulting.

To me, vaping is the next step on the evolutionary ladder, a step-up from smoking so in that sense, my Provari is more real than that relic you indulge in every day. Se where I'm coming from? IMO youre going to have to change that mindset before you have real success and see any results.

You arent going to see any massive health benefits as long as youre putting poisons in your body...even in small amounts.

You say you have one cigarette every day then contradict yourself by saying its just 2 a week.Im not pointing this out to argue Im pointing it out to show that youre still rationalizing.

Regardless if its 1 a day or a few here and there youre putting 20k chemicals in your body each time you smoke, many of them known poisons.They do indeed make a huge difference.

I havent smoked at all for going on 17 months now and I feel better than I have in 20 years.It isnt made up just to attract people to vaping.I have no vested interest in your well being at all.

 

[Train2]

I don't exercise - one of these days, I'll start again...LOL
But I did see a couple things:
- FAR less winded doing ordinary everyday walking or stair climbing
- nearly immediately, a "smoker's hack" - little throat-clearing mini-cough every MINUTE - went away. Completely.

 

[oxygen thief]

I smoked 2pad for 40 years. in ten days my cough went away including a ten minute rib bursting cough every night as soon as i laid down. no more wheezing(hard to find the chick of your dreams while wheezing) and i used to feel like someone hit me in the chest when i sneezed. gone.
i hope it gets better. it has to unless something else is going on. melissa, how much did you smoke and for how long. i think a couple of cigs does not help. there's plenty of poison in two cigs.

 

[Seann.V91]

Idk have you tried lowering your nicotine levels? Nicotine lowers the oxygen count in your blood, when your blood flows through your body especially muscles the body won't be as optimal but avoiding the other 4000 toxins from a cigarette is still a benefit. Try lowering you nicotine an increment at a time, 24mg for an all day vape is quite a nicotine delivery. You can try rebuildables and then experiment with lower OHMZ/sub ohm, I've noticed that when I use a 4mg nic e-juice on my .3 ohm coil the throat hit is quite the same if I had vaped with a 24mg with a standard resistant carto in a carto tank. I've noticed that ever since I started vaping 0-4mg nic my weight training was more optimal and my results were much faster. My pumps feel like I supplemented nitric oxide, I notice the difference. I can feel my pumps are much tighter due to the increase in oxygen count in my blood. My cardio has improved from being "I'm too lazy so I'll just dread it" to "getting done". That's just what my results came out to be experimenting with lowering my nicotine and getting a satisfying throat hit.

 

[melissa1928]

Try dropping the WTA from the mix for a month, see what happens then. And more importantly, kill those last few cigarettes a week. Your lungs need to recover, they can't do that if you keep coating them in tar

Before WTA, I was still smoking at least five a day instead of two a week. That can't be good.

I do see your point, though. Perhaps the real benefits won't kick in until the quit is complete. You're not saying anything I haven't thought, but you'd think I would have seen some benefit when dropping from 175/week to 2/week.

The last time I had an actual cigarette was Saturday, and I'm typing this on a Wednesday, so I've been off them for four days whether I smoke another soon or not. Where's my hacking cough getting all the junk out of my lungs? I want my hacking cough.

 

[melissa1928]

You say you have one cigarette every day then contradict yourself by saying its just 2 a week.Im not pointing this out to argue Im pointing it out to show that youre still rationalizing.

That's not true. I never said I have one cigarette every day. My OP, which you quoted in its entirety, never says that.

And, yes, vaping is not smoking. Cigarettes are cigarettes, and so-called electronic cigarettes are not real cigarettes. If that's your best evidence that I'm "still rationalizing" (rationalizing what?), then I feel safe in ignoring it.

Why so hostile? You sure sound like you want to argue. I won't give you an argument, though. I'm too old for online arguing.

 

[melissa1928]

- nearly immediately, a "smoker's hack" - little throat-clearing mini-cough every MINUTE - went away. Completely.

Now, that's a good point. I did have that little mini-hack every so often, and it has gone away. That's probably a good sign.

Thanks for mentioning it. That chippers me up a bit.

 

[Maestro]

I don't feel any different. I smoked for over 30 years and I still have great lungs. Taste hasn't changed either. I have some juices that are really weak and I've been waiting for my taste buds to "come alive" but they still taste the same. But now that you mention it, I do notice I'm not coughing when I get up in the morning. So I guess I do notice a difference there.

 

[melissa1928]

melissa, how much did you smoke and for how long. i think a couple of cigs does not help. there's plenty of poison in two cigs.

About 25/day for . . . let's see here . . . about 25 years, maybe a little longer.

Someone else mentioned that two cigs a week may still be enough to delay benefits of quitting. I'm not sure I buy that, but I am looking forward to getting off them entirely. Basically, I smoke one when the craving gets strong -- there's something in those things that has a half-life of maybe a week, and the craving for a real cig gets strong as its level in my body declines.

Big Tobacco really is kinda evil, isn't it?

 

[melissa1928]

Idk have you tried lowering your nicotine levels?

I'm leery of doing that until I'm off real cigs completely. I started with 18mg, not WTA, and I vaped frantically. I couldn't put the thing down, my lungs were hurting from the mad sucking, and I still smoked maybe 8-10 cigs a day. Kicking it up to 24mg WTA really helped with that. I can actually put the thing down and walk away for a while.

Maybe I could go down in nic level now that I'm vaping WTA . . . now I kinda wish I hadn't just ordered a bunch of new juice at 24mg. Still, it'll be gone eventually, and by then maybe I'll be off the cigarettes.

 

[melissa1928]

I don't feel any different. I smoked for over 30 years and I still have great lungs. Taste hasn't changed either. I have some juices that are really weak and I've been waiting for my taste buds to "come alive" but they still taste the same. But now that you mention it, I do notice I'm not coughing when I get up in the morning. So I guess I do notice a difference there.

Yeah, pretty much this.

Perhaps we just weren't all that damaged in the first place, so aren't noticing much change. I guess that's a good thing.

 

[Maestro]

Yeah, pretty much this.

Perhaps we just weren't all that damaged in the first place, so aren't noticing much change. I guess that's a good thing.

I suppose. Every time a doctor or nurse examined me, they invariably said "You don't smoke, right?". Just lucky so far, I suppose. Quit while I'm ahead.

 

[boysenberry]

The main difference for me is that I'm not hawking up grey speckled colored lougies anymore. I do know that I'm clearing all that tar out of my lungs.

 

[Deeo]

Well if you don't feel any better, then the question would be do you "like" vaping? If you do then you can be one who can say it's the cigarettes that you don't smoke that counts. If you don't then you may need something other than an ecig to quit. The patch /chantix has worked for some. Also if you where using an ecig to feel better and you are not experiencing this, then maybe its time to see a doctor for advice?

 

[melissa1928]

Well if you don't feel any better, then the question would be do you "like" vaping? If you do then you can be one who can say it's the cigarettes that you don't smoke that counts. If you don't then you may need something other than an ecig to quit. The patch /chantix has worked for some. Also if you where using an ecig to feel better and you are not experiencing this, then maybe its time to see a doctor for advice?

Yes, I like it better than smoking, so in that respect it was worth making the change. I agree that it's the ones we don't smoke which count. A few is better than a bunch.

I want my big rush of energy, though. I could really use that big increase in energy that people talk about. Ah well; we don't always get what we want.