I don't feel any better.

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SamNapolitanke

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interesting post... thanks for sharing. I felt amazingly good after 4 or 5 days after switching... and I feel great now...

I had a terrible time waking up in the morning with stuck lung, stuffy nose and just a tired feeling. all of those went away when I switched.
maybe consider stopping smoking completely? that's the point right?
 
I didn't have an "aha miracle" moment. I noticed very small things over time. First I noticed that I was no longer coughing up phlegm in the morning. Then a couple weeks later I noticed an decrease in my smokers cough, though I still cough time to time. Also every winter I get an upper respitory infection, this year not so much as a cold.

I have not noticed an increase in my stamina or my sense of smell, and if anything my taste is slightly less, but this may just be a case of vapor's tongue. I'm sure as more time passes I will notice more things it can take years for your lungs to heal themselves completely. It is still better than when i was smoking and I don't ever want to go back
 

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I suspect that if you led a sedentary life before you start vaping and quit smoking, that you may not see much benefit.. other than your cough really should go away. And your chance of lung cancer will radically drop.

If you were active before quitting the smokes, though, then i would expect to see and feel more changes like I have. I work out every day and do kickboxing.. have for years.. quitting smoking gave me a noticeable energy boost.
 

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When I first started vaping, it took months for me to feel the effects. Part of that may be due to the fact that I came down with a lung infection a couple weeks into it. By the time I started feeling better, I fell off the wagon and started smoking again. Now I am six days into my second vape attempt, and I am already feeling better. Maybe because this time it is only a couple months of smoking that I am giving up, whereas the first time was 24 years of smoking. Many smokers are very sedentary. I was too. It is important to start some kind of exercise once you start getting your wind back. There are also some people that really aren't that bothered by smoking. Despite all of the scare tactics, many of those that die from smoking are in their late 70's to late 80's. I've seen smokers in their 90's. Maybe they would have lived to be 120 if they didn't smoke, but it's unlikely. At one point most of the country smoked, and we managed to get a lot more done back then than we do today. We fought World Wars with an army of smokers.
 

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You answered your own question in the first sentence. You need to stop smoking altogether and stop calling them "real' cigarettes".

What does that make vaping? Fake cigarettes? It's self defeating and insulting.

To me, vaping is the next step on the evolutionary ladder, a step-up from smoking so in that sense, my Provari is more real than that relic you indulge in every day. Se where I'm coming from? IMO youre going to have to change that mindset before you have real success and see any results.

You arent going to see any massive health benefits as long as youre putting poisons in your body...even in small amounts.

You say you have one cigarette every day then contradict yourself by saying its just 2 a week.Im not pointing this out to argue Im pointing it out to show that youre still rationalizing.

Regardless if its 1 a day or a few here and there youre putting 20k chemicals in your body each time you smoke, many of them known poisons.They do indeed make a huge difference.

I havent smoked at all for going on 17 months now and I feel better than I have in 20 years.It isnt made up just to attract people to vaping.I have no vested interest in your well being at all.

I haven't read the whole topic yet. But i feelt the need to comment.
I've been free now for about 45-46 days. I've noticed immense improvements.
However i did try 1, just 1 regular cigarette to taste how horrible it is. I got sick from that one cigarette. You realy notice how it affects you.

So for the topic starter. Try to get rid of those ocassional ciggys. They're hindering you down, alot!
You're delaying your transition for your body to start healing.
 

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Like a couple of other posters, I also didn't really notice any dramatic changes. The changes I did notice were gradual and kind of crept up on me. Some of the changes would not have been noticeable I hadn't been monitoring them previously. As an example... I started exercising a lot more and eating better in 2009 as a part of a weight loss plan. I have a heart rate monitor that I wear (used to wear) when exercising. It would tell me my heart rate when exercising, how many calories I burn, my resting heart rate, and a few other things. Very gradually, after I switched to vaping I noticed that my resting heart rate had decreased. When just sitting around resting, my average heart rate decreased by a few points. It wasn't dramatic, but it was definitely real. My max heart rate that I would reach during exercise also decreased quite a bit.

My doctor's office keeps electronic records that I can access from my computer and graphs some measurements. If you look at my graph for blood pressure, even without knowing that I quit smoking, you can see a clear drop that started with my first visit after switching to vaping. It wasn't a huge amount, but again, it's very clear from the graph that a drop in my blood pressure coincides with switching.

All of these things would not be noticeable at all if I hadn't been keeping track of them beforehand. And none of them are dramatic.

One dramatic change I have noticed is that I don't get bronchitis with every.single.cold. I used to dread catching a cold from my kids or husband. They'd be over it in a few days, but for me it would move to my chest and stay and stay and stay. Pretty much every single time. The first cold I got after switching, this didn't happen and it hasn't happened since. I still get colds, but they are just normal colds and go away in a reasonable amount of time.

I do not feel energized and I really haven't noticed an increase in stamina, but I was exercising pretty regularly and enthusiastically for about 2 years before I switched to vaping.

So, anyway, that was a long way of saying that there may be small changes that you are not noticing. You may not notice very gradual changes at all. Kind of like, you don't notice weight loss in someone you see every day if it's half a pound at a time, but if you someone only very infrequently it seems they've lost 30 lbs all at once. Gradual changes are very hard to notice, especially if it's in yourself (because you are with yourself every single minute of every day :) ).
 

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IMO it has nothing to do with gradual changes.Youre not going to notice any big changes while youre still smoking. The number of cigarettes is irrelevant, youre still poisoning yourself with 19999 other chemicals besides nicotine. Drop those completely and I wouldnt be surprised at all if you dont see a big difference in a couple of months.
 

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IMO it has nothing to do with gradual changes.Youre not going to notice any big changes while youre still smoking. The number of cigarettes is irrelevant, youre still poisoning yourself with 19999 other chemicals besides nicotine. Drop those completely and I wouldnt be surprised at all if you dont see a big difference in a couple of months.

Possibly, I guess. But I switched immediately. Cut out all cigarettes within 2 days of starting, and I still really only saw gradual changes. I'm not assuming everyone's experience is going to be exactly like mine though. There are a lot of variables that make everyone's experience a bit different.
 

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IMO it has nothing to do with gradual changes.Youre not going to notice any big changes while youre still smoking. The number of cigarettes is irrelevant, youre still poisoning yourself with 19999 other chemicals besides nicotine. Drop those completely and I wouldnt be surprised at all if you dont see a big difference in a couple of months.

I realize this is your opinion, but as it is second time you've noted this in this thread, I am curious how you would address this with a moderate smoker like myself? Keep in mind I've gone cold turkey for 8+ years and am able to use that as a reference point. As a moderate smoker, I truly feel as healthy as I did for much of that 8+ years, with lots of the same signs of improved health.

OP is someone that has a smoke every 3 to 5 days, which in my understanding is moderate smoking. All other smokers that I have been aware of in last 40 years are smoking at the very least 10 a day, and some as many as 80 a day. For me and OP to smoke a pack takes about a month.

With abuse of smoking comes the issues that I believe everyone reading this thread has experienced. With moderate smoking, it is closer to problems not existing, than it is to something like 'half as bad.'

I think it is similar to moderate drinker of alcohol vs. person that has to drink every day and is unhappy if they don't get buzzed at least once a day. The person who drinks say one to 2 drinks every once in awhile is still putting a known poison into their body, but magically is not being affected in the same way as person using same poison daily and having lots of health and personal problems as a result.

It is fascinating to me that heavy / abusive smokers have trouble understanding just how okay, nay wonderful, moderate smoking actually is.
 

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I admit I skimmed over the middle pages in this thread, but I feel the need to comment. Something to keep in mind is that we didn't wreck our lungs/body overnight, and it's not going to get better overnight either. I have been vaping for almost three years, and ditched cigarettes in favor of smokeless tobacco shortly before embarking on the vaping journey.

I can JUST NOW say, after 3+ years off the smokes, that I have seen drastic improvements. I have always been active, but this has been the first year that I can run a 5k without stopping due to breathing issues. I had a reactive airway due to smoking, part of the reason I switched to smokeless tobacco several years ago. I am just now starting to forgot about the inhaler in my nightstand. Individual experiences will vary, but for me this has been a marathon, not a sprint. You will heal and improve, but allow time and be patient.
 

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We fought World Wars with an army of smokers.
... most of which was 18-25 years old -- too young for smoking to have had much of an effect on them.

I want my big rush of energy, though. I could really use that big increase in energy that people talk about.
I'm at 90 days today. I can't say I've had a "big rush of energy", but I can say that I feel 10 years younger than I did 3 months ago (I'm 54). The incessant smoker's cough I had is gone. My sinuses are clearer. I rarely get sleepy in the middle of the afternoon. I sleep better at night. And I do have more stamina -- just ask my wife. ;)

Most of this happened very quickly for me, but the switch from smoking to vaping only took me four days, and I've only had one cigarette since then, about 3-4 weeks ago, when I ran into someone I hadn't seen in 5 years. He went out to have one and I went with him and had one too because I was curious how I'd react to it. Initially, I sorta enjoyed it, but half way through my lungs started to feel funny and by the time I was 3/4 of the way through it, I put it out. At that point I knew I was well and truly done with "traditional cigarettes" and gave him the 3 packs I still had stashed in a drawer (they were what was left of the carton I bought a few days before I started vaping).
 

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Being mostly vaper for some two years, here's my experience... (35, sitting a lot throughout the day, workout every evening)

When I vape exclusively for a week or more, I get positive effects - better breathing during exercise, being able to run longer and faster, being less sore after upping my routine... The first analog I would get after 7+ days is disgusting - hard on my throat and lungs. However, addiction is what "makes" me get it, along with the situation where I'm used to smoke (with coffee after huge meal with friends who also smoke, in the club with alcohol, when chilling with friends over some beer and snacks).

However, in past 2 weeks I didn't get a single analog and I am starting to get even greater benefits. I had upped my workout routine few days ago, and no sore muscles - probably since my body gets more oxygen and other nutrients where and when needed. I'm still at 24 mg juice and I find it to be "lesser evil" than everything else I would be taking in with analogs. I also have some 18 mg juice at hand, hoping to start going down soon.

I walked to the postal office and bank today (2 miles total) and noticed that I walked much faster. Another thing I noticed was that I could easily smell each and every smoker along the way and detect why a baby in stroller was yelling her lungs out :unsure:

Downside: I'm getting dehydrated, so I drink over a gallon of water - which requires me being close to toilet ;)

Different people react differently. Two persons taking up the same diet for weight loss may have rather different results, depending on too many parameters to count - one may have steady weight loss, the other may go in rapid loss-plateau loop. Although the second person might be plateauing at a given diet, thus not having visible results, (s)he benefits from healthier eating, and visible results are yet to come. Speaking of dieting - it's always better to cut down takeouts from daily to weekly habit, instead of taking all-or-nothing stance. That one takeout a week will harm much less than eating fast food daily. The same should be true for analogs and any other harmful habit.
 

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Im at day 15 totally free of ciggs. Not that long compared to a lot of the stories ive read here...

At first I have been selling it a bit to myself.. bc it helps me stay committed.. & ive found fake it till yoy make it is a real thing.

That being said ive noticed a definite change in smell. Much sharper and harder to tune out. My taste isnt dramatically better but ive always had really sensitive taste buds (im a 'super taster' as much as I wish I was not)

One undeniable benefit is that my chest is much clearer and the lil half coughs to clear my throat are almost completely gone.

Normally in winter I would get a chest cold and have excess phlegm in my chest until at least summer if not for years continuously.

Im guessing it fit the definition of pneumonia but I never felt that bad.

Now if I try to make my lungs rattle i cannot.. and I could quite easily 7 -10 days ago..

So while I might have convinced myself at first.. the results I see now are real.. hope I see more.

35 y/o male who was smoking 1.5 pad before this.

Ymmv.

But im not pissing on ya and telling you its raining.

Im sorry you haven't seen more results. Id advise cutting out ciggs entirely and seeing if it improves.. maybe give up the wtas.. & maybe add vitamins to help the healing process.

I can has tapatalked this.
 

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With abuse of smoking comes the issues that I believe everyone reading this thread has experienced. With moderate smoking, it is closer to problems not existing, than it is to something like 'half as bad.'

I think it is similar to moderate drinker of alcohol vs. person that has to drink every day and is unhappy if they don't get buzzed at least once a day. The person who drinks say one to 2 drinks every once in awhile is still putting a known poison into their body, but magically is not being affected in the same way as person using same poison daily and having lots of health and personal problems as a result.

I'm pretty sure it's not magic. :)

The all-or-nothing thinking has been the downfall of many a self-improvement plan. Some people here would have me believe that I might as well never have quit smoking at all, and that's just silly.

I'm not sure when I had my last cigarette. A week maybe? Normally I would be seeing quit effects by now, but I'm not . . . and I've realized that that's a good thing. It means there wasn't much damage to undo. It means I stopped in time.
 

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Moderate smoking might not effect some people but it might harm the health of others. Some people are more susceptible to carcinogens than others are. I for one am one of those people that carcinogens really effect. I was only a smoker for 2.5 to 3 years and I could tell it was already bothering my health, while my buddy smoked for like 6 years and was totally fine.

I would stand up and could feel the blood rush through my vains I could feel my habit effecting my circulatory system. After a pack a day sometimes I would feel so tired and sickly, so out of energy, and sometimes it would give me a pounding head ache. I would stand up and get light headed. I would run up the stairs and be out of breath! Then I quit cold turkey and after a about 1-3 months I felt SO much better. All those side effects were gone, and haven't had any since. I could tell carcinogens really bothered me. While my buddy who was a smoker longer than me and didn't quit yet at the time was still just perfect. Some people are just more likely to feel the health defects from smoking more than others.

So if you don't feel any better, and your still a moderate smoker...well the best bet would be to cut it out entirely and see how you feel after a few months. I used to love cigars, cigarettes, and smoking but I didn't want to feel the horrible side effects anymore so I made the best decision of my life.
 

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Well, it's been several months since I switched from smoking to vaping. I smoke one real cigarette every 3-5 days, otherwise it's just vaping. I don't feel any better, or any different at all.

My wind has not improved. My senses of taste and smell have not improved (although they were fine to begin with, so I wasn't expecting much). I don't have more energy. I'm not awakening more refreshed -- a bit in the opposite direction, if anything.

I'm just my tired middle-aged lump of a self, just as I was when I smoked.

Some of the flavors taste good. I can vape in places I'm not allowed to smoke. Other than that, I'm not seeing a whole lot of advantages. I haven't had that "OMG I feel so amazing now!" experience.

So, come on, 'fess up -- are you just saying you feel amazing now to get people to try vaping? Now's the time to let me in on the joke, because I totally fell for it. :)

Contrariwise, if you do feel amazing now, what am I doing wrong? I vape a fair bit of WTA and also a fair bit of nic-only. I vape a lot and I do it at the 24mg level. I have to do both of those things to avoid smoking more real cigarettes. I still have one or two real cigarettes over the course of a week, but it's hard to imagine that making a huge difference. It's not a binary state of smokes at all / doesn't smoke at all.

Maybe this is just the way I naturally feel, and the cigarettes weren't really hurting me. :ohmy:

You may other health issues going on. When was the last time you had a physical. Excluding the taste and smell problem, I had very similar symptoms (wasn't vaping at the time time) and found out my thyroid was out of wack. Might want to check that out if you are tired all the time.
 
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