I get throat hit but no vapor from my new e-cig...what's wrong?

[paulw2014]

My Ego C Twist and Vivi Nova arrived today, along with my juice. I didn't do any break in procedure for the vivi nova because I've yet to learn how to. I just poured in the juice and started vaping.

I got a good throat hit, but this could be due to the juice, since I knew this juice have a very strong throat hit (menthol), but I got no vapor or very little vapor. Is this normal for a new setup? I've only taken about 8 puffs so far...

When I ordered the juice, I order it "20% VG" for "best combination of throat hit and vapor production", so it can't be the juice...

 

[kiwivap]

Sounds like it needs to wick up. You need to allow a little time for the wicks to draw the juice. Let it sit with juice in for a while.

 

[*deleon517*]

ok what head do you have on the vivi nova and what type of battery or mod(voltage setting) are you using?

also i find taking the little rubber cap off the top of the head and adding a drop or 2 to the coil helps speed up wicking. just becareful as the cap is a pain to find if it falls on the floor since you need to put it back on before closing it up

 

[18SixFifty]

I was given this advice and I will pass it on. set it on it's side and wait one hour.

 

[paulw2014]

ok what head do you have on the vivi nova and what type of battery or mod(voltage setting) are you using?

also i find taking the little rubber cap off the top of the head and adding a drop or 2 to the coil helps speed up wicking. just becareful as the cap is a pain to find if it falls on the floor since you need to put it back on before closing it up

I'm going to wait a hour and try again. But to answer your question, I have a Ego C Twist 1000mAH battery, and it's variable voltage. I varied the voltage from 3 to 4V and it's all the same - good throat hit, little to none vapor. The head on the vivi nova is the default one it comes attached with. I ordered some different heads but haven't taken it out of the box yet...

Hopefully what I'm experiencing is normal, as opposed to a defective product. Most likely the wick need more time to absorb the juice. I just poured in the juice into a dry, brand new tank, waited 5 min and started vaping, so maybe that's why...

 

[*deleon517*]

ok reason i ask is the 2.8 at 4v's may still seem weak... if you look between the area's where the wicks enter the head it should have a stamp on it say either 1.8, 2.4 or 2.8 on it. and lastly are you using the vivi nova with the short or longer wicks?

 

[paulw2014]

ok reason i ask is the 2.8 at 4v's may still seem weak... if you look between the area's where the wicks enter the head it should have a stamp on it say either 1.8, 2.4 or 2.8 on it. and lastly are you using the vivi nova with the short or longer wicks?

The head is 2.4. I'm guessing the wicks are long because it almost reaches the bottom cap. I understand 2.8 at 4V might be weak, but I'm not sure if it will cause the vapor production to be THIS low...we are talking almost invisible...

 

[kiwivap]

I varied the voltage from 3 to 4V and it's all the same - good throat hit, little to none vapor. The head on the vivi nova is the default one it comes attached with. I ordered some different heads but haven't taken it out of the box yet...

Hopefully what I'm experiencing is normal, as opposed to a defective product. Most likely the wick need more time to absorb the juice. I just poured in the juice into a dry, brand new tank, waited 5 min and started vaping, so maybe that's why...

VG is thicker than PG - and VG is where the majority of the vapor comes from. It's possible that the wicks drew up some PG, which is thinner, but the VG got separated and not drawn up. If so that's why you got TH and a little vapor. After an hour hopefully you'll get more vapor as the VG should have wicked up.

 

[Strigoi]

When I ordered the juice, I order it "20% VG" for "best combination of throat hit and vapor production", so it can't be the juice...

80/20 does not give very good vapor production. I've got many bottles of 80/20 liquid and am always disappointed by them. I stick with 50/50 when possible now.

A Vivi Nova should be ready to go a few minutes after dumping the liquid in. I rarely wait any longer than that. I do some twirls before I start vaping though.

 

[kiwivap]

I've always got plenty of vapor from 80/20 or 70/30. So much so that some work colleagues were amazed.

 

[paulw2014]

VG is thicker than PG - and VG is where the majority of the vapor comes from. It's possible that the wicks drew up some PG, which is thinner, but the VG got separated and not drawn up. If so that's why you got TH and a little vapor. After an hour hopefully you'll get more vapor as the VG should have wicked up.

Well, if I drew without inhaling and just blew the "smoke" out from my mouth, I can visibly see some vapor, but if I draw it to my lung and exhale, I can hardly see anything. We'll just wait and see...

However, the throat hit is definitely powerful, and the mentol tastes exactly like the Marlboro menthol that I threw away just awhile ago. I can totally see this getting me off cigs.

Maybe it's the juice? I ordered it with 20% VG and if you say VG is where most of the vapor comes from, then perhaps I need to up the VG more. But I do think the throat hit is big, even more powerful than a real cig, and I don't mind toning it down a bit. So perhaps more VG and less PG is the way to go?

 

[kelleymcm]

yeah & drying it out should NOT matter either...
I rinse mine in HOT water, squish water outta wicks w/a paper towel
& dry burn slowly ...till I'm back to white wick & clean wire...blow out the ash & fill & vape .

No wait time involved ... I do put a few drops in on coil b-4 replacing coil cap
& I always start fill by dripping down both sides,on the wicks ...but basically fill & vape .

And I always start with the LOWEST voltage & increase a little at a time till I get it to where I want it .
I also use ALL VG DIY juice ....& have a theory that "wicks" prefer higher vg than pg, based on my experience.

 

[NancyR]

ok couple of things, one yes you can't rule out the juice being at least part of the problem as you haven't used that juice in anything before so don't know how it would do in say a cartomizer.

Also the heads on the vivi nova usually take a tank or so to break in. Until it is broke in you might not have the best vape from it. Also I would try upping the volts on the twist, you said you tried it between 3 to 4, an standard ego puts out 3.3, and an unregulated 3.7 goes between 4.2 and 3.3 depending on how fresh the battery is, and they use the lr head of 1.8.

Edited to add

How are you inhaling also, as holding the button down for about 2 seconds before taking a draw can help with vapor production.

And are you staying hydrated, that may sound silly, but the way I understand it is the vapor is actually from the moisture in your mouth and throat, so if your mouth is dry you won't have as much vapor. And while I can't tell you 100% if that is true I can tell you I notice more vapor after taking a drink than before.

 

[kiwivap]

Maybe it's the juice? I ordered it with 20% VG and if you say VG is where most of the vapor comes from, then perhaps I need to up the VG more. But I do think the throat hit is big, even more powerful than a real cig, and I don't mind toning it down a bit. So perhaps more VG and less PG is the way to go?

The more VG, the thicker the juice. I've used 80/20 and 70/30 in clearos and got plenty of vapor. You could try 70/30 or 60/40 if it still doesn't happen after an hour. I think it just didn't wick up tho.
On the plus side - you can see this working for you - so that's good.
When you do give it another go - do some draws without firing the battery - just to help it wick.

 

[Herdo]

Well, if I drew without inhaling and just blew the "smoke" out from my mouth, I can visibly see some vapor, but if I draw it to my lung and exhale, I can hardly see anything. We'll just wait and see...

However, the throat hit is definitely powerful, and the mentol tastes exactly like the Marlboro menthol that I threw away just awhile ago. I can totally see this getting me off cigs.

Maybe it's the juice? I ordered it with 20% VG and if you say VG is where most of the vapor comes from, then perhaps I need to up the VG more. But I do think the throat hit is big, even more powerful than a real cig, and I don't mind toning it down a bit. So perhaps more VG and less PG is the way to go?

That's the way I go. I notice there is almost always very little vapor and too much throat hit with anything over 50/50 mixes. I usually go with 30/70 PG/VG or 100% VG in my Vivi Nova. It does differ from vendor to vendor though. I have gotten 50/50 juices from vendors that don't have much vapor and too much throat hit, and I have gotten 70/30 PG/VG mixes that were perfect.

That being said, I don't think that's your problem. From the way you described it, you are getting practically no vapor. Even my 100% PG juices still produce decent vapor, it's just not as much as I like.

Whenever I swap out Vivi Nova heads, they always take a couple hours of vaping to start working just right. Happened to me today as a matter of fact. I put in a new 1.8 ohm head, and it was barely producing vapor but plenty of flavor. After using it all day, it's vaping great now. Just keep using it, if it isn't better after using it for awhile try a different head.

 

[paulw2014]

That's the way I go. I notice there is almost always very little vapor and too much throat hit with anything over 50/50 mixes. I usually go with 30/70 PG/VG or 100% VG in my Vivi Nova. It does differ from vendor to vendor though. I have gotten 50/50 juices from vendors that don't have much vapor and too much throat hit, and I have gotten 70/30 PG/VG mixes that were perfect.

That being said, I don't think that's your problem. From the way you described it, you are getting practically no vapor. Even my 100% PG juices still produce decent vapor, it's just not as much as I like.

Whenever I swap out Vivi Nova heads, they always take a couple hours of vaping to start working just right. Happened to me today as a matter of fact. I put in a new 1.8 ohm head, and it was barely producing vapor but plenty of flavor. After using it all day, it's vaping great now. Just keep using it, if it isn't better after using it for awhile try a different head.

Ok, I got my juice from VaporGod and it seems they messed up on my order. One of the juice I ordered 36 mg and they gave me 24 mg. Should I just accept this as it is or should I ask for an exchange or some kind of store credit? What is the usual policy or practice when this happens?

 

[lotsoffish]

Ok, I got my juice from VaporGod and it seems they messed up on my order. One of the juice I ordered 36 mg and they gave me 24 mg. Should I just accept this as it is or should I ask for an exchange or some kind of store credit? What is the usual policy or practice when this happens?

If you are going to throw that juice away because you do NOT want to vape it because it's not what you ordered and you do not want it, I would ask for a refund/exchange.

On the other hand, if you really don't care and it's not a big deal I would tell them about the error and let them off the hook telling them you are OK with it but you thought they outta know about the screw up.

I had a similar experience with a bottle of juice recently and the vendor was very polite regarding this and also was very thankful I didn't make a big deal about it, and guess what? I vaped all of that juice and barely noticed the difference in nic strength anyway.

Vendors deserve a break once in a while just like everyone else.

 

[Herdo]

Ok, I got my juice from VaporGod and it seems they messed up on my order. One of the juice I ordered 36 mg and they gave me 24 mg. Should I just accept this as it is or should I ask for an exchange or some kind of store credit? What is the usual policy or practice when this happens?

Id keep it. When I started vaping I was smoking a pack a day+ for about 10 years (camel filters). 24mg was almost too much for me. I've been vaping under two weeks and I'm down to 11mg. I'd start was 24mg or 18mg.

It's funny because right after I made my last post, I swapped out a Vivi Nova head, and it isn't working right. Almost no vapor. I'm going to swap it back after work and see if that fixes it. Hopefully it's just the head.