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treehead

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Thanks for the clarification. I certainly want to reap those profits! I love the knotted wick idea. Because yes, I have certainly noticed the wick separating from the coil on my dragon builds. Resulted in some gnarly side effects. But anyway your vapor looks outstanding. Must. Have.

No problem man, if you have any other questions just hit me up brotha!
 

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Interesting, I may have to try this on my Trident V2. I use mine on a Reo, so I sacrifice some voltage drop for dripping without dripping (squonking). I had my Trident modded into a bottom feeder by a guy on the forum, and its just outstanding. I love having a grab and go device that doesn't have the inherent messiness and inconvenience of a dripper. Squeeze the bottle, take a vape or two, squeeze the bottle again and you're good to go. Voltage drop considered, it performs somewhere between 3.8-3.9. Not bad for a box mod.

I currently have two 26 gauge microcoils, 6 or 7 wraps a piece, can't remember. .39 ohms. Its actually one piece of wire (for this build). RipTrippers coined it the "sleeper coil." Much much easier on a Trident because the posts have slots instead of holes, so I can remove the screws off and lay the build down, tighten, wick, squonk and vape.

Will have to get some 24 gauge and try this though!
 

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Claptons are pretty much long super nano coils yes, I've seen most wrap a thinner wire on thicker, which takes away the challenge to me ;).

Do a Parallel Clapton 32 on 32 as close to nano as it can get, I'd be willing to bet that vapes like a beast.

The closest I've been able to manage is 32 on 28 and that vapes like a flame thrower.

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Bout to try this on my igoW (don't make fun lol I'll have a tobh or stillare soon 1st of month Lmao)
Bout to try this with 26 with less wraps biggest I have atm new I should of got 24 but it's hard to fit in my small topper.
Anywhos if I don't sound back in a few I blew up

don't mind the post I'm drunk
 

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Welp I failed but I made a wicked coil in process
1 26g, 1 28g, and 2 30g wires twisted dual coil 6/5 wraps 2mm ID .17ohm vapes like a champ no where near the op's build but I'll try that again when I get 24g.
Untill then I think I'll rebuild this one with 7/6 wraps to get the ohms up .17 scares me with vtc5 even tho it's within limits just not a large enough room for error.... but I'm rambling {see my Sig? Yep ;-) lol}

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My latest build is a dual vertical sleeper in 24g a1 5/6 on 2mm wicked with solid rolled 400 mesh oxidized stainless steel.

It ohms out at 0.19 which with my 10% margin for safety is more like 0.171, my battery reads 4.20 volts so let's say its 4.62, and I'm running Sony VTC4 30a so let's do the 10% thing and call it 27a.

With that data I'm pushing 27.01 amps and 124.82 Watts, 0.01 amp over my happy place so I'll use a battery that is charged to 4.19v and feel better.

With the actual figures it's 22.10 amps and 92.84 Watts

Truth be told I don't usually run lower than 0.2 ohms because I try to keep it easy to stay within that 10% margin of error for safety.

A 0.17ohm build would bother me a lot.

Maurice
 

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I've been vaping on a .16 ohm 22 gauge dual coil single strand sleeper coil nonsense. 6 wraps on a 3/32 drill bit.

I have no good liquid, vaping some 60pg/40vg liquid from my local shop but still producing alot of vapor.

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I've been vaping on a .16 ohm 22 gauge dual coil single strand sleeper coil nonsense. 6 wraps on a 3/32 drill bit.

I have no good liquid, vaping some 60pg/40vg liquid from my local shop but still producing alot of vapor.

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Your liquid might be fine with a different build?

For me, most of the liquids I vape are subjectively best in the 0.5-1.0 ohm range, for me the lower ohm builds I do are just messing around and having fun with the building process, not an all day preference.

If I were to consistently build the low ohm stuff with clouds of vapor in mind I'd just vape VG, VG alone works better at producing lots of vapor anyway.

As long as you know what your doing and have the right equipment, by all means, please enjoy your .16 ohm 22 gauge dual coil single strand sleeper coil nonsense.

Maurice
 

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Symmetry anyone? I've been trying to nab that builders utopia, you know, the kind where you get that almost overwhelming 1 second pull. Well this one definitely overwhelms me with 1 second pulls, it almost feels like the vapor is re-condensing in my mouth, which may sound bad but it's actually quite a good thing (to me). I never thought I'd see the day where I'd be taking less than 1 second pulls, and still get that nice, dense, and flavorful cloud. I'm basically sipping on this setup compared to most, it's almost magical how fast it produces.

~It's a dual 24ga super-nano coil setup
~Wrapped 11 times on itself...perfectly
~angled slightly lower than 45°, I think this helps keeping it wet and prevents dry hits.
~.2 Ω's
~ Wicked with my own patented "noose wicking". :)p just kidding, but it is a hitch knot cinched around the coil and using the tails to tightly block the "deck end" of the coil, and for me, it's much tighter that dragon wicking, and turns these coils into absolute cannons, there's no expanding of the cotton when it's knotted, then I tuck the fluffiest cotton I can make under everything but the opening of the coil cannons).
~This is the only coil I've ever made that doesn't give a crap if you flood it, which is good because it vapes probably a drop per pull. I drip about 8-12 drops in, and I get about 8-12 pulls lol, so she's a thirsty little thang. It is efficient though, using dual 1/8th" airholes (still warm with these airholes), when I open the cap to see if it's dry, it's usually bone dry, almost completely white cotton, which is surprising because I don't get dry hits too often, usually just a noticable lack of vapor. If you try this get ready to gets your lungs' .... kicked!





Here's that "noose wicking" and how I do it, basically just a hitch knot around the coils, that way you can really cinch'er down.







The pic of the vapor really doesn't do it justice, it looks like a freakin flame thrower! Try it out, you'll like it.
***Post your recent perfect coils too :vapor:***​

Never tried a nano coil but may give one a try in the cu quasar tonight with the 24g.

Looks cool treebeard
 

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Wicked with my own patented "noose wicking". :)p just kidding, but it is a hitch knot cinched around the coil and using the tails to tightly block the "deck end" of the coil, and for me, it's much tighter that dragon wicking, and turns these coils into absolute cannons, there's no expanding of the cotton when it's knotted, then I tuck the fluffiest cotton I can make under everything but the opening of the coil cannons).

questions??? do I block one end of coil with wick, if so which end?
where do I position air holes? I have dual 3/32 holes in igoW?

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questions??? do I block one end of coil with wick, if so which end?
where do I position air holes? I have dual 3/32 holes in igoW?

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Sorry I'm getting to this so late brother, I was drinking myself :p.
~Block the end that's pointing down towards the deck, you want the open end to shoot up into your cap.
~And the airholes should be pointed directly at the open end of the coil, as close to the exposed coils as possible.

Hope this helps man! Let me know if there's anything else your having trouble with, this was probably the hardest coil in the world for me personally to get right lol.
 

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Sorry I'm getting to this so late brother, I was drinking myself :p.
~Block the end that's pointing down towards the deck, you want the open end to shoot up into your cap.
~And the airholes should be pointed directly at the open end of the coil, as close to the exposed coils as possible.

Hope this helps man! Let me know if there's anything else your having trouble with, this was probably the hardest coil in the world for me personally to get right lol.
all right man cool. have you tried this build with a sleeper coil?
as my current atty can only fit 1 strand off 24g through the POS+ post.
of course I will Prolly be trying this later tonight any ways never tried a sleeper

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all right man cool. have you tried this build with a sleeper coil?
as my current atty can only fit 1 strand off 24g through the POS+ post.
of course I will Prolly be trying this later tonight any ways never tried a sleeper

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I've done a continuous super-nano before, but with less wraps, it was really hard to get the last coil wrapped perfectly. I'd really suggest drilling your center post, that way you can always do dual 24ga! :p. Besides I've found that sleeper builds really only help even heating (or ohm boosting) on larger diameter coils, with so many wraps on a small diameter like this, they almost always light up laser perfect.
 

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Thanks man no worries now got me a tobh so dual 24g is not a problem anymore I had to take a break from these builds tho, or something would have gone through a window lol. I'll give it a try again soon tho, wish I could find a .5mm bit .ir something similar as wraping kanthal on it self is a pain for me at least
 
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