I knew it was too good to be true!

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mkbilbo

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My transition from smoking to vaping was so easy that I just got blindsided. Lessee... first ever disposable was March 3. Last ever cig happened about April 15 (US members will recognize the date :) ). Those weeks were easy as could be. Exciting even. When, suddenly...

I can't wake up. I am so freaking drowsy. All I wanna do is sleeeeep. I sleep so much better but I would like to wake up sometime!

Also, my tooth hurts. Old root canal. Apparently, smoking was suppressing whatever's wrong with it. It's mad at me now. Oh. Goodie. If I ever wake up, I have to visit a dentist.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhuh? Wha??

Where was I?

Yeah, I was getting away with this transition way too easy. Just gliding through without a hitch. Smoking less and less until I just stopped and lost interest in the things. Happy, happy. Good times!

What on earth do they put in those things??? vaping is giving me my nic just fine. This is nothing like any "quit" attempt. It's a whole other thing. And I'll be <insert your favorite curse words here> I'm going back. I not only have lost interest in smoking, I'm a little terrified of the things now. What else was I addicted to that's causing trouble now?

Anybody else seen a weird period of big time drowsiness after switching? I mean I sleep so much better now and feel so much better, no way I want to go backward but this is nuts. Only thing I can figure is there was some other stimulant in cigs I was used to having. I don't feel bad, just wanna nap. Alla time. Feel "relaxed" to the point of silly putty. I hope this one doesn't last long. I gotta get stuff donezzzzzzzzzzzz.........
 

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Well from what I have read the chemicals from the analogs leave our systems at different times. Some take MONTHS to work their way out. You may have hit a point where something is going out of your system. I am having the opposite problem...Insomnia. This 3 hour a night sleeping is killing me. I have dropped my Nic level down to 4 MG in case it was chain vaping nic that was keeping me up all night. Didn't help. RAWR!
 

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dido myrany I had a crash last night for this weeks nightly adventures. I get up between 5am and 6am for work but I have a hard time going to be before 2am.

(Whisper) Hey Joshua, this is your inner voice speaking. I don't think its the vape keeping you up. It maybe that last two(insert 2 brand name pharmies) that you are suppose to take at 6ish that you take at 8 or 9ish so you can get stuff done.
 

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I'm usually drowsy in Summer and early-Spring. I think that's all you're suffering. :)

As for the teeth, though, I also noticed an increase in pain. I visited my dentist two weeks ago, but she didn't say there was anything wrong – just loads of tartar, but that's usual for me. It might be that the smoke has some numbing effect on your teeth or gums. She even joked that the analgesic she was about to put on my gums was just very strong tobacco so I should like it!
 

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for me I noticed my gums and teeth hurt worse than normal for a little bit, then all the sudden they are no longer sensitive to hot/cold like they used to be, and usually my upper outside gum area is sore because not only do I prefer salty/vinigary snacks but I brush like i'm trying to clean the opposite side of my mouth. I've stopped being SO hard (I caused one area of my gum to rip and pull back from my canine when I was younger!) and use extra soft brushes now, but I still forget and brush like i'm cleaning grout. LOL.
since I started vaping and went through an ouch period I haven't had ANY pain, even the mild stuff I barely noticed before because i'd lived with it for so long!
 

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Well from what I have read the chemicals from the analogs leave our systems at different times. Some take MONTHS to work their way out.

I believe I read there are three phases of the chemicals leaving the body that occur. The first one is at roughly 3 days, the second at roughly 3 weeks, and the last at roughly 3 months. While these are averages, the actual time may vary slightly from person to person. Given the last analog was smoked by the OP on April 15th, they are about a week past the 3 week mark. If the symptoms started last week that would put them right on time. Once their body gets past this set of withdrawals, they should be fine until about the 3 month mark when the next wave hits.
 

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I've been vaping exclusively now for about 2 months.
After 2 days all cravings for analogs went away.
After a week, a bit of bleeding from the gums, but now all sensitivity has gone.
After 3 weeks, found I was getting irritated sinuses, so upped the VG content of my mixes.
Last week had the worst head cold I've ever had in my life, but feeling better now.

But despite all these problems, I'm still a vapaholic. Hate the smell of stinkies now. Much better quality sleep, no more snoring. Amazing sense of smell and taste now.

Just hope the 3 month jitters aren't too bad. Only problem for me now, is limiting my spending on flavours and mods :facepalm:
 

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Yep, me me me! I'm totally tired all the time, and just unmotivated in general. I do remember this in my past quit attempts too though... Like a sort of "lost" and can't get comfortable kind of phase. What is GREAT though, is that i do not feel deprived which is always what has sabotaged my effort in the past. If anything is going to mess me up this time, its all this dinking around with equipment and supplies that either don't work or don't last. I don't even want to think about how much more this habit is costing me, but I do know its a lot more than cigs. But still cheaper than chemotherapy so that's a plus!

I don't know about you, but I've been having night terrors since starting this. Which kinda sucks because all I want to do is sleep!

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I went through a couple weeks of SEVERE laziness.. I'm not the most active person to begin with but I mean to tell you I was setting lifetime personal laziness records there for a bit. Fortunately it didn't last long, a couple weeks max.

I'm hoping it doesn't take too long. I feel good. Better than in years. But, man, I just cannot wake up. Almost like my body's decided to "catch up" on the last 35 years or something. Yeeesh!
 

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I believe I read there are three phases of the chemicals leaving the body that occur. The first one is at roughly 3 days, the second at roughly 3 weeks, and the last at roughly 3 months. While these are averages, the actual time may vary slightly from person to person. Given the last analog was smoked by the OP on April 15th, they are about a week past the 3 week mark. If the symptoms started last week that would put them right on time. Once their body gets past this set of withdrawals, they should be fine until about the 3 month mark when the next wave hits.

That's interesting. And, you're right, it would fit. I may have had one after the 15th but I had slowed to a point that I'm not sure exactly. I know the 15th was "one of those days" and I broke down and had two. Sometime in the week after that, I tossed the remains of a pack in the trash. Along with ashtrays. I needed more room for liquids! Needed some steeping space and spread out a bit to sort through the samples and see which ones I liked. The other stuff had been demoted to "in the way".

Which is weird in itself. Smoking was so much a part of my life for so long, the idea the lighters and ashtrays were "in the way" and so casually trashed is pretty... awesome really.

But it was definitely in that range. I just remember the 15th for obvious reasons (that's US income tax filing deadline day for the non-USers who may be reading... and, yeah, I waited to the last day to finish up... idiot that I can be!).

And this seems to have been "building" for a few days back. Like I was having a bit more trouble waking up and more sluggish in the afternoon then, wham, I feel like I could sleep for days.

I'm definitely in the range of 3 to 4 weeks since the very last ever cig.

Still, feel better than I ever did while smoking. I do not wanna go back. I just hope I get some energy back sometime. :)
 

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I just remember the 15th for obvious reasons (that's US income tax filing deadline day for the non-USers who may be reading... and, yeah, I waited to the last day to finish up... idiot that I can be!).

LOL. When I finally clicked the last button in the e-filing process it was 7 minutes into April 16th (Central time). I waited until the last minute to even start because I knew I would have to pay in and wanted to keep my money as long as possible. in the end the IRS always gets theirs.

On the other topics. I really think the issues will subside over a short period. Maybe a week or two. Also, now that your lungs should be clearing up a bit, getting into a routine of exercising daily will help your energy levels a LOT. Most people find morning exercise to be the best, energizing them for the day ahead. Also getting on a good vitamin regimen can help provide your body with what it needs to help expel the toxins and start the rebuilding process as well as boost energy levels.
 

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Yep, me me me! I'm totally tired all the time, and just unmotivated in general. I do remember this in my past quit attempts too though... Like a sort of "lost" and can't get comfortable kind of phase. What is GREAT though, is that i do not feel deprived which is always what has sabotaged my effort in the past. If anything is going to mess me up this time, its all this dinking around with equipment and supplies that either don't work or don't last. I don't even want to think about how much more this habit is costing me, but I do know its a lot more than cigs. But still cheaper than chemotherapy so that's a plus!

I don't know about you, but I've been having night terrors since starting this. Which kinda sucks because all I want to do is sleep!

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Not night terrors but the dreams are... screwy. I don't remember any now but I know I've woken up thinking, "That is messed up!" :)

They have suddenly become hyper-real and weird. Normal dreaming for me is a random mush of crazy. Never much in the way of "plot". Just moments that half make sense segueing into other ones that make some other half sense. Just... goofy. I rarely get "realistic" dreams. And it's never good when I do. I've described them as "old style gothic". That 19th century, relentlessly bad, not quite "horror" in the modern sense but more old line "tragic". Everybody dies, everything goes wrong, every "rescue" attempt is a failure, and it goes on and on and on...

Bleah.

But still cheaper than chemotherapy so that's a plus!

Absolutely.

Right now, I'm not bothering to "track" my spending. I can tell I'm easily spending less than cigs (especially after that last round of tax hikes!) but I'll worry about "budgeting" later. I figure I'll spend money on my health one way or the other...
 

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I felt drowsy because of those disposable and didn't know why. They taste suck anyway. I would advice any new people that don't touch those. The bad thing about those is that it's pushing people away from the idea of vaping and quitting the real cig. Thanks to guys from this board who consistently advice people to keep trying diff. equipment/flavor/and level of nicotine. I tried again with the real stuff (non-disposable) and mix fluid myself, controlling the amount of nicotine, and it is working.
 

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It's funny you mentioned the tooth pain. I became aware of two major cavities a few weeks after I made the switch. The pain was so bad I had to check myself and sure enough, they were big ones right at the gumline... ...big enough for me to run my fingernail through. The dentist was shocked to see them. He told me they probably started forming at least a year before.

My sleeping habits have definitely changed, as well. For the first month, I slept 2-3 hours longer on average, though I didn't feel groggy when I was awake, rather, I had a hard time containing the energy. There was a lot of foot tapping whenever I was doing something that didn't require much energy. I was in a bit of a fervor most of the time. It was just a blind drive towards doing things and stuff. I seem to have calmed down a lot lately though. I sleep less than I used to, but I feel more rested. And for once in my life, my circadian rhythm is consistent. I have never gone for more than a week without going off-course before, but I'm well over a month into going to bed at the same time and waking up at the same time every night/day now. The trade-off is that I have either several short, but memorable dreams or one long, ridiculously epic one every night. There's nothing abstract about them at all. Sometimes, they can be intensely unpleasant, but I find even those ones to be fascinating. I go lucid at least once week. Rather than thinking about the stress of the day to come, I now wake up thinking about the crazy dreams I just had. They are so vivid that I often find myself recalling the chains of events throughout the day.
 

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I basically fell apart the first few months...aches and pains and stuffy nose. The aches I found out was a symptom of the body ridding itself of the carbon monoxide. But now over 6 months end I never felt better! Plus all my cravings are gone. Now I vape cause I want to not because I have to.

And the thought of lighting up a cig doesn't even occur to me and I am around smokers all the time. It gets better just hang in there!
 
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