I knew this was too good to be true...

[Warped3k]

Yeah, Wal-ma$$ and it is found in most in the area where they have calmine lotion, neosporin, bandages and such...It's labled use there is skin protectant. (which it can be) It is not true VG, but it is sufficient enough to get you away from the PG until you know and then you can get VG food grade glycerin from other suppliers or healthfood stores near you. It is Humco brand at WM.

I actually called Humco about a week ago about their Glycerin product. They assured me that is was pure vegetable glycerin and not from a source of animal fat. The bottle actually has USP written on it, so it is medical grade. I see nothing wrong with it.

No really, It's OK. Cut your losses and go away. You can afford a hundred bucks. It's just not for you. And you are playing games here that we really don't need. Best of luck.

Alright, I am confused here, what are you trying to tell the OP? OP is playing games? Obviously the OP is having issues with what he got and doesn't think its going to work for him.

Now, to the OP, I started vaping about 2 weeks ago and my first few days I had a massive throat hit. It has definitely gotten better for me. I was vaping at about 24mg. I would honestly just try a few more days to see if it does indeed get better.

 

[chev327fox]

The reason you hurt your throat is because you are inhaling wrong. You should put the vapor only in your mouth until you are done dragging then inhale it into your lungs, if you try and drag like a normal cigarette you will kill your throat. The reason you can't drag IMO is because the vapor is so hot from coming right off the coil and into your mouth so by holding it in your mouth you cool it down some. Cigarette smoke goes through tobacco and a filter before you inhale and you are used to cigarette smoke too, so when you are used to vaping you might be able to inhale directly although I wouldn't recommend it.

Also this isn't a FUN ride at first although for me it was but for a lot of people it is still hard even with vaping to quit regular cigarettes. A lot of has to do with state of mind as well, if you went into thinking it was going to be exactly like smoking without the bad chemicals then you were off to a bad start already. You need to realize it is a much safer alternative, alternative means like the real thing but not the same.

The really funny thing is we all had to force ourselves to start smoking those nasty cancer sticks in the first place so we could be "cool" as well as our friends or the "in" crowd. But why then when we go to quit or do something healthier do we quit on quitting at the first sign of discomfort? It is because we are looking for a reason to fail on purpose so we can just say F-it and smoke a cigarette, just something to think about.

 

[leannebug]

Whether you want to vape or not is your own choice. You can try some of the suggestions, or not. YES, it does take a little work and sticktoitness, but it pays off in the end (if you can find your ideal PV and juice)

Sore throat: I didn't have one to start with, though I was extremely thirsty. However, I had a horrible reaction to key lime juices (I tried 2 different brands). I felt nauseaous, and got a terrible sore throat. More than likely, it's a PG reaction, or one of the 'beginners' side effects. Read the Health section for more info.

VG: When/if you go to WallyWorld, look for Wilton's brand. My WM doesn't carry it, but I've heard that others do. Wiltons tastes much much better (I tried the WM Humco brand.. ick.. YMMV) Michaels craft store also carries the Wilton VG.
Vanilla: make sure you pick up natural flavor! you can also (sometimes) find Loranns drops at WM, or certainly at your local craft store (Michaels, HobbyLobby, JoAnns)

Check out the Pay it Forward social group. It's a GREAT way to pick up new juices and try other things. You can trade, or ask, donate, etc. If it weren't for the PIF gang, I would never ever have been able to try as many things as I have, in such a short amount of time.

Best of luck to you, no matter what you decide.

 

[Big Thier]

Ok so I bought some VG, added couple drops of Tasty Puff in it, vaped... It feels exactly like PG, burns my tongue a little, so I guess it will get my sore throat if I keep on puffing. Damn what do I do...

 

[VRubin]

Just give it a few more days, I know it's stupid ... "Why would anyone continue this if it sucks this bad?" but it WILL get better. Everyone adjusts differently. I had a hard time in the beginning with the sore throat thing.. didn't think it was for me. But I enjoyed the flavors so much I just kept at it. Also, lowering my nic helped (started on 36mg, bad call lol)

 

[chev327fox]

Ok so I bought some VG, added couple drops of Tasty Puff in it, vaped... It feels exactly like PG, burns my tongue a little, so I guess it will get my sore throat if I keep on puffing. Damn what do I do...

Big teir another thing is if it is burning your tongue then you have the tip (where the vapor comes out) aimed at your tongue so the the hot vapor is hitting your tongue. A good solution is to aim the end upwards a little towards the roof of your mouth or between your tongue and the roof of your mouth and remember to inhale the way I told you and I know you will be all set.

 

[Big Thier]

I'll try some good quality juice, the one I bought was like 8$ for a 30 ML bottle.

 

[the_antisheep]

No really, It's OK. Cut your losses and go away. You can afford a hundred bucks. It's just not for you. And you are playing games here that we really don't need. Best of luck.

I'm curious on this one as well... Perhaps some inside information the rest of us don't have?

 

[four2109]

I'm curious on this one as well... Perhaps some inside information the rest of us don't have?

Reread the OP, then browse the OP's post history and draw your own conclusions.

 

[zelda]

Sounds to me like someone was fishing for free stuff and/or sympathy.

 

[ricky59]

Are you using the two piece smokestik with the cartomizers? If so, they do give a good throat hit. I don't know about the 3 piece.

I definitely found juices that hit the throat really hard and others that have almost no throat hit. Try some halo freedom at 12%. I refilled some of my smokestik carto's with that and I really couldn't tell anything was going in my throat until I blew it back out.

 

[smokum]

I've tried all the Tasty Puff stuff..... its crap and harsh on the throat PERIOD !!

As someone suggested earlier, try your VG cut with distilled water to the consistency of regular PV juice and add some "natural" vanilla flavouring OR buy some non-nic VG juice from Happy Vaper of your flavor choice and see if that does it for you since your only smoking one tobacco cig a week you obviously "don't" need the nic anyways (and the higher the nic, the more the hit or burning sensation you'll get).

Nobody will have a magic answer for your particular situation as there is no such thing. Everyone is different and so are they're expectations and satisfaction levels.

For instance..... I was a chain smoker (near 3 packs a day for decades), I came across e-cigs in November of '08 and immediately cut down to under a 1/2 pack a day. HOWEVER... I bounce between a couple cigs to a pack a day constantly, even after spending a few thousand bucks on devices and hundreds of dollars on different juices and DIY stuff.

Did I lose my battle ?? I don't think so considering where I was at previous to trying e-cigs.

Did I win my battle ?? Obviously not since I still smoke cigarettes even though at a VERY reduced rate. BUT, I'm both good with & fine with MY progress.

If trying different approaches ends up working for you then GREAT. If it doesn't and you move away from vaping..... then that is YOUR decision to make and live with and nobody should be criticizing you with it (unless the e-cig community is now becoming the new anti community which wouldn't in "my" mind even deserve an ear).

Do what you gotta do, live with your decision, and move on !

-Greg

 

[WOW]

Just learned about manual batteries. They do the same thing to give a sense of control minus all the technical info that can burn out your brain.




The problem is there's some major discrepancy about how many mg of nicotine are in an anolog.

How many mg of nicotine are in a cigarette - Google Search

That link brings up several links answering the question as between anywhere from 1-10.

Vape liquids are sold at the highest from most dealers, at 24 mg. Even if you pick med strength, you're (16-18mg) you're way over the max info about analogs, taking in more and therefore needing more. People are going to do both if the mg content is higher than an analog and feel vaping is a waste of time and money.

There are approx. 24 puffs in an analog and it takes approx 8.5 minute to smoke a 100(vs king size) cigarette. If you chain smoke, you are likely smoking 5-7 in a row with anywhere from 20 minutes to 2 or more hours in between or having 20 minutes periods of lower oxygen. Vaping will not lower your oxygen so you won't feel satisfied if you have never been a throat smoker.

Imho, if you can get as close to the mg in an analog as possible with vaping and get a stop watch with an alarm on it (set it to the max of 9 min instead of using a lighter) and put down your choice of PV and repeat to your sense of satisfication, you will have the comfort zone of you tobacco habit without the tobacco and everything else, including flavors, will just enrich the experience, without going back to analogs.

Remember, nicotine is classified as a drug though PV's are classified as tobacco. To get off analogs you have to think of your PV like the patch or gum, etc. iow, a drug.

I am not qualified to say how addictions are broken but, imho, it's not by taking in more but less and having the least amount of stress possible to replace the nicotine. I also don't know how reliable any of the links are but chain smoking is a different category of smoking and vaping makes it too easy to go through a cart in just over an hour and crave more nicotine than usual.

I had to stop vaping to figure this out after days on end of being up all night. I don't believe chain smokers can calculate intake per day. It's a stress related way of smoking that an anolog burning out forces you to stop. A stop watch is both your lighter and the alarm on it, is butting out the analog.

It's worth trying that way if you decide to keep vaping and anyone who smokes/smoked over 15 cigarettes/day, is a chain smoker. There is no way to get through a day with that many analogs, given the oxygen deprivation, without getting sick unless you smoke many very quickly.
You're missing the rush of oxygen deprivation.

Between vapes, after exhaling hold your breath until as long as you can then when you feel like take your next 'puff'/vape - you'll get the same rush without the chemicals. You'll also make your PV last longer.

I chain smoke 1 every half-hour and it equals 1 & 1/2 pks/day and is killing me. When I started vaping I couldn't feel the satisfaction and couldn't put it down. Constant vaping will make anyone more addicted to nicotine and get obsessed with refilling carts, which just makes it worse in a way that is worse enough that you go back to analogs.

There is no other way to start w/o a stop watch that has an alarm for heavy smokers. It's otherwise next to impossible to find your comfort zone, avoid constant vaping and get the pleasure w/o the chemicals. Stress smoking happens and I agree, these forums should not be for bashing. Everyone here has a nicotine addiction trying to find a way to deal with it on their own terms.

This is best answer I can come up with other than adding a chain to to either you PV case or if you don't use one, you car keys and adding a bead to it every week you use a stop watch correctly to make it fun.

Hope that helps.

 

[TamiP]

IGNORE THIS. I made that long @@@ comment before I realized someone had bumped an ancient thread. Sorry.

I'm very new to vapeing, I've only been doing it a week, but the second day when I found this place, one of my first post was I cough every time I take a puff of this thing is that normal... lots of answers--yes. And low and behold, it was. After another day I was only coughing once in a while during the day, and now don't cough at all from it. I also experienced extreme dry mouth the first day and overnight woke up with an incredible case of cotton mouth. Drink a lot more water, but it goes away. I haven't had that since that first day. I have had a very mild (very very mild) sore throat off and on, but nothing remarkable, and I think it is due to the times I forget to drink enough water as other times it's fine. The vapor is drying. Don't give up.

WOW: That's a very interesting concept on the oxygen deprivation. I never would have thought of that. From now on if I ever do crave, even momentarily a cigarette, I think I'll hold my breath and count to 10. Maybe that will work. It really hasn't been much of an issue though except for the fact that I goofed and ordered some e-juice that was only 16 mg and suddenly I had cravings a little bit again. I had been using 24 mg and that worked perfectly. Luckily I still have 24mg juice, so I have two batteries set up, one with the lower nic level and one with the higher and I alternate them. It has helped.


OP: Part of your cravings may be that you're not using a high enough nic level.

 

[classwife]

2 year old thread ....closing