I like my new buzz pro, but the tank...

[Merc1138]

I remember reading somewhere about filling the carto first then filling the tank.

Yes, the carto is being filled first. Still dumps out of the hole in the connector.

Perhaps my wording could have been different on over filling. If you are filling the tank from the top, you could be getting juice in the carto as you fill the tank and flooding the center tube. That would leak out the battery end.

We all love to help around here, and we do our best to get every problem solved. If you just want to complain then by all means do so, since not everyone is going to like the products, but please leave your attitude at the door.

I don't even understand how that could happen unless I was pouring liquid straight down the center of the carto, which is not the case. It also doesn't explain why the contents of the tank are running out of the hole in the connector. I assumed(and it's why I decided on the m1a1 in the first place) that the hole in the side with the thumb screw was for filling, to avoid having to slide the tank up the carto to fill it.

You are using plain stainless steel cartos, no wrapper or paint?

You are not really tightening that screw down super tight? If it is too tight, vacuum gets broken.

You are stopping the punch or slot as soon ad you pierce the carto outer wall?

The o rings are really there, not chewed up? Each cap has both an interior and an exterior ring, sometimes seating the cap takes a bit of work, a bit of eliquid on the ring makes it easier. If you had a bad cut on your first carto, perhaps the inner orings have been compromised.

You wet the carto when initially pushing it into the tank? It should go in smoothly, but take some force, if there is a proper fit.

A bunch of people have used these continuously since they first came out, zero problems. Personally, I vape a pretty thin eliquid with about 1/8" x 1/3" slot at about 1/3" up from the bottom.

The same plain stainless steel boge 510 cartos that notcigs has on their website for sale. Yes, the orings are there, no they aren't chewed up, yes they had a little bit of liquid applied prior to inserting the carto, and a minor amount on the carto itself. There is nothing being done to the interior of the cartos by cutting the side of them. Shouldn't be an issue of tightening the screw down, since in the last attempt I didn't even have it make contact with the carto in the event it was apply pressure and creating a gap in the orings. Seeing as how I've also now used 2 different tubes, it shouldn't be a matter of the hole for the thumb screw being messed up either. I actually saw a couple of bubbles come out of the hole in the side and rise up through the liquid in the tank

Fill it on the device , does it leak then ?? If so you got some crappy cartos or something ??? not sure , all the advice so far is right on IMO >

Yes, it's being filled when on the device, and it leaks. Do the boge 510 cartos on notcigs.com count as "crappy cartos"? They're what I used in my last attempt with the shorter tank.

I had a problem w/mine when I first got it. It was doing exactly what yours seems to be doing?? Turned out in my case it was missing an internal o-ring, therefore it wasn't getting the proper vacuum that is required to stop it from 1) leaking out the bottom, 2) flooding the carto... I have since gotten all of the correct o-rings installed and have not had any problems, and I'm using the same carto's that I used w/flooding, leaking problem. So it may be something as simple as a missing or not seated correctly o-ring...

I'm not saying this is your problem, I'm just sharing my personal experience and what fixed it. Hope it helps someone

BTW: Mike fixed my problem asap once it was realized that it was an o-ring issue... He will do what he can to help, as long as he knows what the cause is. JMHO

Definitely not a missing o-ring unless there's a 5th that goes somewhere.

 

[markfm]

Bubble coming out of the hole/slot is normal, as eliquid enters the carto, just that after the initial setup of the carto it should just be an occasional blip.

Maybe an endcap bored slightly too large or oval, out of true? It really is a simple device, but the machining has to be right on.

 

[Merc1138]

Punched carto #4(real PITA trying to punch it with a nail and a hammer and not have it roll around), and the hole on the very edge of the point where the end of the nail made the dent is barely visible(not really certain it even exists, all I can see is a black speck so I assume it's there). Been holding liquid for about 10 minutes, but after some time passes we'll see if it's actually re-filling the carto.

 

[BuzzKill]

Hummm not sure why this is happening , many people use that same carto and have no problems ??

so it leaks out of the bottom of the carto right >?? NOT around the tank seal ?

 

[Vermonster13]

Center hole leak with good seal = bad cartos. QC isn't high on the priority list for a lot of Chinese manufacturers.

 

[BuzzKill]

I was hoping you would chime in here Verm.

 

[Merc1138]

Hummm not sure why this is happening , many people use that same carto and have no problems ??

so it leaks out of the bottom of the carto right >?? NOT around the tank seal ?

Yes, I am 100% sure. Here is a picture of a 510 atomizer with an arrow pointing to the hole in the connector that I'm talking about. I'm not sure why this is been so difficult to make people understand. And no, I'm not using this atomizer in the m1a1(I'm sure someone is going to want to make that comment).

The good news is that carto #4 has survived a record setting 20 minutes or so at this point. Regarding my "attitude" on the matter that someone complained about earlier, I don't like fiddling with things. Not because I'm incapable, I don't have the time or care to do so. I could work on my car, but I pay someone to do it for me. I prefer things to just work, not play with them for an hour until they work.

 

[Vermonster13]

You probably got a bad batch. The center tubes may not have been fitted right inside thus leaving a leak spot.

 

[BuzzKill]

Yes, I am 100% sure. Here is a picture of a 510 atomizer with an arrow pointing to the hole in the connector that I'm talking about. I'm not sure why this is been so difficult to make people understand. And no, I'm not using this atomizer in the m1a1(I'm sure someone is going to want to make that comment).

The good news is that carto #4 has survived a record setting 20 minutes or so at this point.

Hummm ??? I am at a loss here , unless your juice is just really thin ???? I know you probably went over this in the thread .

 

[Vermonster13]

If the filler is real thin they can leak also. Big problem with some of the DCs.

 

[vittiv]

It does sound like a problem with the seal, somehow. Have you tried, with a dry carto and tank, plugging the mouth end of the carto with your finger and blowing in the bottom to see if air comes out anywhere?

 

[Merc1138]

Hummm ??? I am at a loss here , unless your juice is just really thin ???? I know you probably went over this in the thread .

80/20 VG/PG, definitely not thin by any means.

If the filler is real thin they can leak also. Big problem with some of the DCs.

I actually figured that might be the case with the first XL carto I tried, then found a ce carto(that was like drinking through a straw).

It does sound like a problem with the seal, somehow. Have you tried, with a dry carto and tank, plugging the mouth end of the carto with your finger and blowing in the bottom to see if air comes out anywhere?

Tried that with the previous boge carto that dumped, as well as the current one that's amazingly still working(but not sure if it's actually keeping the carto filled yet).

 

[Vermonster13]

CEs leak if you look at them wrong.

 

[Bovinia]

Punched carto #4(real PITA trying to punch it with a nail and a hammer and not have it roll around), and the hole on the very edge of the point where the end of the nail made the dent is barely visible(not really certain it even exists, all I can see is a black speck so I assume it's there). Been holding liquid for about 10 minutes, but after some time passes we'll see if it's actually re-filling the carto.

You are using a hammer and nail? This could possibly be the problem Merc. It's very easy to dent the carto out of round with that method. I admit that I have tried it that way and ruined the carto. If it's out or round just the slightest bit, the o rings won't make a tight seal.

 

[Merc1138]

CEs leak if you look at them wrong.

Actually, the only problem I ever had with CEs were the coils getting crudded up extremely quick(and then finding it to be annoying to get the seal out, rinse it out, let it dry, then burn the crud off. Haven't bought any since). Unless you're talking about the clear plastic CEs... lots of swearing ensued when one of those snapped in my pocket.

 

[BuzzKill]

You are using a hammer and nail? This could possibly be the problem Merc. It's very easy to dent the carto out of round with that method. I admit that I have tried it that way and ruined the carto. If it's out or round just the slightest bit, the o rings won't make a tight seal.

Good point Bov !

 

[Vermonster13]

Hammer and nail is not a recommended method.

 

[Merc1138]

You are using a hammer and nail? This could possibly be the problem Merc. It's very easy to dent the carto out of round with that method. I admit that I have tried it that way and ruined the carto. If it's out or round just the slightest bit, the o rings won't make a tight seal.

Ok, I have to ask. Did you read anything I posted? I only used a hammer and a nail on the 4th carto a little while ago that actually seems to be working. The first 3 were cut. Yes, I'm aware that if the carto were dented out of round that the o-ring wouldn't be able to seal it. That's why I was trying to avoid punching them in the first place and finally decided to give it one more go on the comments from other users regarding punching a hole in them. Outside of finding some specific tool somewhere that I'd end up having to pay even more money for, a hammer and sharp pointy object(I've also seen drywall screws suggested but couldn't find one, might be easier to hang onto but the carto rolling was the annoying bit).

 

[Merc1138]

Hammer and nail is not a recommended method.

Well it's what seems to have worked so far. What do you suggest?

 

[Bovinia]

The only other thing I could suggest is returning it if it isn't working out for you.

Yes, I have read your posts. I've also read the posts of people trying to help you figure out what is going wrong for you. We trouble shoot things all day for people here, forgive me if my attention wasn't focused solely on you.