Well like I said, I love my 510 but the 808 with the cartomizers might be nice as well. Were should I look to get an adapter and some carts. Would this be a good way to check out the 808. One of the reasons for asking is that I have a friend who I know won't like messing around and refilling at all and I want to give it a try before I order one for her. They don't go on-line so they are going to give me the cash and have me order and I don't mind but I also don't want them bummed out if they don't really like it.