I need answers.

[Vapor Fiend]

OK everytime I read something good about an e-cig, I feel confident that it's the model I should get. Then I turn around and there's different threads saying the model I want is the worst one!

I've spent a good amount of time reading the reviews, and it seems like everything is just personal preference. How do us noobs decide for ourselves without wasting huge amounts of money?

Now I ordered a DSE901 from Electronicstix. Right after that I read that only one site sells the "real" DSE901's. I'm sure that only means there are standard parts and generic parts being used in different suppliers' products.

This is what I want to know, what are the best e-cigs for the best price. Not the $150 ones, those are overpriced, even for idiots. I want to know what would be the most reliable, most proucing and best choice for any e-smoker.

Minis, SuperMinis, DSEs, JOYE510s, BE112s, Jantys, etc..

 

[PiP]

its honestly personal preference. 901's are a favorite on the forum but there are also other good models. its all in what youw ant in look, vapor production, battery life, and cart size. forgive me i i missed anything

 

[theminicig]

Perhaps you should have gotten a RN4075 for a slightly better vapor production with a sacrifice of life expectancy on the atomizer.

 

[cosican]

OK everytime I read something good about an e-cig, I feel confident that it's the model I should get. Then I turn around and there's different threads saying the model I want is the worst one!

I've spent a good amount of time reading the reviews, and it seems like everything is just personal preference. How do us noobs decide for ourselves without wasting huge amounts of money?

Now I ordered a DSE901 from Electronicstix. Right after that I read that only one site sells the "real" DSE901's. I'm sure that only means there are standard parts and generic parts being used in different suppliers' products.

This is what I want to know, what are the best e-cigs for the best price. Not the $150 ones, those are overpriced, even for idiots. I want to know what would be the most reliable, most proucing and best choice for any e-smoker.

Minis, SuperMinis, DSEs, JOYE510s, BE112s, Jantys, etc..

Hello Generally I would not respond to a thread like this, for a million reasons, but the main one is, it is all up to the end user and everyone has their favorite
However, I must be one of those "idiots" cos I did spend $150.00 on the best cig, out today, w/o building my own mod
Okay, I own 901, 801, 103. 84, cigars, minis. supers all of them
I still use all of them, I also use the VK, Vapor King, which is actually a very good product. But the one I go to, in between my idiot ecig
is the 510, bought from www.widowsbeadwork.com $50.00
the 510 allows me my manual switch, which I now believe is the only way to go, and I have been vaping for 6 months

Even though I have atleast 3 of each, except my idiot cig, I still search for the BEST out there, cos, I like you, read a thread and think that must be better than mine. They usually are not..

good luck

 

[malyden]

ScvJerk - First of all take a deep breath and relax.
Remember that everyone has different likes and dislikes.
Don't stress out that maybe you made the wrong choice. Give it a shot and see how it works for you.
I have purchased from various suppliers and many of them sell the "real" DSE901's
This is a new experience for you and there is a definate learning curve - give yourself time

 

[Trumpybloke]

LOL Confusing aint it???
Its all horses for courses =)
I for one would recommend a 901 to get the feel of what you want , they are generally reliable, parts are cheap and readily available, they lend themselves best to modding if that is what you want in the future( and if you are handy with a soldering iron , you most certainly will)
as minicig said the RN atomisers will give you a hotter vape ( sometimes at the expense of atomiser life tho)
In my experience try and stay clear of those sellers trying to make a quick buck by rebranding generic e-cigs, you always pay a premium......
There are many tried and true suppliers on this forum , my advice, pick a model you might think suits your needs , research it as best you can while remembering that most people are more likely on a forum to knock a product or supplier than praise them =)
There will never be a "perfect" e-cig and you have to start somewhere .
If you are concerned about reliability etc remember that these things are mass produced and there are bound to be failures, look for a supplier that will work with you thru customer service and hopefully it will all come together for you ...

The best e-cig, is simply the one you find works best for you unfortunately that sometimes means you might get a turkey or two, but IMHO the 901 is the first place to start your quest towards e-cig nirvana =)

 

[Hangar]

SCV - 2 weeks ago when i started with all of this i felt the same exact way that you are feeling right now. So far what ive found is that you have to take all the comments and reviews with a grain of salt because ALL current ecigs are plagued with their own set of problems...ALL have certain idiosyncrasies that come with a learning curve and that will require you to make adjustments to your everyday life's regular routine.

Ill be honest...half of what you read here is alot of hype, but half i feel is truly substantiated. This is NOT a product for someone who doesnt have the time or patience to baby sit their new ecig, because at first, it WILL take alot of fiddling and experimentation to both get it working the way you like and to find a new routine that suits you. No matter what you buy its not going to be so cut and dry so if you are someone who is extremely busy and just cant be bothered then dont even waste your money right now, perhaps by next year the hardware engineering will be improved to a point that will make the ecig more user friendly and truly ready for prime time. Right now there is no perfect ecig...it all depends upon what your priorities are.

The important things to understand when first starting out is:

1. the smaller ecigs that look like their real counterparts will require almost constant cart changing and/or refilling and dripping on the atomizer after every 10-15 drags (which is the equivalent to about 1-2 real cigarettes). The only advantage they have over larger ecigs is that if you smoke alot in public areas where other people will see you, you wont be noticed. The larger ecigs dont look like a real cigarette and will draw attention to you out in public, their advantage is that they wont need to be refilled as often.

2. Learn to understand the differences in the model numbers (401,801,901,510, etc.) and find a model that will allow you to order replacement parts from several different sellers if needed because to be honest the quality of hardware on these things tend to be a crap-shoot and your ecig WILL fail on you sooner or later (many times out of the box) and youll want to be able to order parts quickly and have a good choice of vendors for that because some will sell you older outdated crap and some will sell you better stuff...it all might be more luck of the draw than anything else. Be prepared for faulty equipment no matter what you decide to buy...it happens very often.

3. Try to find a vendor you trust will work well with you if/when things go bad and you need replacements fast...some will make you wait until you send back the bad part first, and some will send it out to you right away. Consider a warranty and nothing less than a 30 day no questions asked return/refund policy just in case ecigs are not for you.

4. If you are a heavy smoker and want an ecig that will remind you of tasting like a real ciggy then id suggest staying away from the sweet candy flavored liquids and try to find the very strongest tobacco flavored liquids instead...and by STRONG im not referring to the nicotine amount, im just referring to its overall flavor and throat hit because you will want it to linger as long as possible so it helps you to stay away from real cigs.

5. If your intentions are to quit real cigs completely and you are a heavy smoker just be prepared it will take some willpower to do so...for some its easy, but for others its still a struggle to stay away from real smokes completely in the beginning. The ecig however, SHOULD be able to help you cut down DRASTICALLY on real cigs pretty fast. I went from a 25 cig/day habit of 31 years to only 3 real cigs/day after my first 24 hours with an ecig...and im one of those who LOVES smoking. But still, its not SO easy so just dont be too hard on yourself at first. This will make it easier for you than any other product you might have tried before though.

Good luck!

 

[Avid]

I've spent a good amount of time reading the reviews, and it seems like everything is just personal preference. How do us noobs decide for ourselves without wasting huge amounts of money?

By doing what you're doing - reading forums. And yes, it is a personal preference. As for the money, I'm not sure it's ever really wasted - if you find that the one you bought isn't exactly right for your use, it's still a good idea to have a second unit (or at the very least, extra parts) on hand.

Now I ordered a DSE901 from Electronicstix.

I believe you will be very happy with a 901

This is what I want to know, what are the best e-cigs for the best price. Not the $150 ones, those are overpriced, even for idiots. I want to know what would be the most reliable, most proucing and best choice for any e-smoker.

Might have touched a nerve with that "idiot" comment

Let me give you what I think is a fairly good comparitive answer to that...

Some smokers buy generic cigarettes. They don't really care about the brand so much as they want to save money while still enjoying their habit.

Then you have people who buy branded cigarettes (i.e. Marboro, Newport, etc.) because they are willing to pay more for the brand they like best.

Then come the people who enjoy the smoking experience and will buy specialty cigarettes (i.e. Djarum Blacks, Dreams Belgian Blend, etc.) or an expensive cigar.

The same is true of Vapers. You will invest in it what you can afford for the level of vaping you wish to attain.

For someone who has not vaped yet and who doesn't wish to commit a lot of money to try it out but still wants something reliable, I think you probably made the best choice

...and we'll see where you go from there

 

[Drewsworld]

Take some time and go through leafords reviews..Thats what I did..watch ALL of them and then decide..He also has coupon codes somewhere so you can get a discount..He is very honest and un bias...You will probably end up with more than one and a table full of juices

 

[BiteMe]

Yo... "Hanger". That's the best and most concise advice and summary that I've ever seen! Can I steal your words to use as advice for some friends that want to get into this gig?
Thanks in advance!

P.S. I wish I could have put it as well!

 

[tribalmasters]

There is only one e-cig you need to consider if you don't mind large size, want large cart and battery life and BLOODY HUGE VAPOUR and that is the penstyle DSE801!!

 

[wv2win]

It seems like so many new members have little patience to do the research. I do agree that it is overwhelming at times. Unfortunately, most users on this forum have not tried the better PV's (personal vaporizers) available whether it is due to money or shipping times. I will make it simple: 95% of PV's have batteries that are too small for the intended use and an automatic switch that can be easily broken. Just so you know, I am a user only. I sell nothing. But if you want a more consistent and stronger throat hit similar to analogs, vapor production and long battery life (6-8 hours), then you need a 1000mah battery with a manual switch. That is all there is to it. And there are only two ways to get one like this that I am aware of. Make one, which many on here have (see the mod section) or buy the screwdriver.

PS: the next alternative after that which although not as good but better than the typical battery is using a USB pass-through. Unfortunately, they break quite easily unless you are very careful with them.

 

[wv2win]

There is only one e-cig you need to consider if you don't mind large size, want large cart and battery life and BLOODY HUGE VAPOUR and that is the penstyle DSE801!!

I had an 801 (returned it) and I can agree with your assessment in comparison to a mini or super mini. But it doesn't come close to the vapor, throat hit or battery life of a manual switched, 1000mah unit.

 

[Vapor Fiend]

You know what let me clear the air with my comment about idiots.

What I meant by that was people who buy the cheap e-cigs that are overpriced. I found a huge amount of off-mainstream websites selling the "health-e-cigs" super minis for $150 a kit. People who just up and buy one of those, without taking the time to research, well you know...

I respect all of you member's who know what you're talking about. I didn't intend to make it seem that anyone who would spend a lot of money on a quality product was an idiot.

Anyways, you guys are right. I have had my own preferences and I think I got the responses I would have expected to get. It's just that I have a sense of urgency because I want to get atleast ONE of these before they get banned (hopefully not).

I am acutally starting to look at the e-cigars. Time will tell though. I have my order on it's way and I will leave you all a "noobs perspective" review. Thank you all for all the feedback!

 

[Vapor Fiend]

Sorry for the double post, my computer here at work doesn't let me edit my posts (internet explorer proxy issue)

I just wanted to add that I've actually been researching these for quite a while. I've read a ton of the reviews, news and other general things on this forum and other sites. As well as suppliers sites. I don't mean to be such a noob but given all the information I've read I still like a direct personal response to the question at hand more. Thanks again guys.

 

[Rexa]

If you're looking to quit smoking, looking to be able to actually take the ecig with you anywhere, don't want to look stupid smoking it in public and want to go for one of the most popular ones where you can *always* get replaceable parts without blowing a ton of money and being able to order from a lot of sites then I would suggest the DSE901. I bought it from eastmall.net, I also bought another kit from myvaporstore.com (for my friend) and I continue getting parts from myvaporstore.com.

There are screwdrivers, there are pipes, there are cigars, there are pens but I think if you want to *start* with one kit and be able to experiment with it anywhere (like your job, school, other public places, home, at your non-smoking friend's house) then just get the mini/DSE901. After that then expand your horizons because in all honesty regardless of all the reviews and how great all those other fancier models are you have to consider the upkeep of the item.

Again, I'm not saying there aren't other better ones when it comes to vapor and what not. I do currently own a lady-pipe, a penstyle 801 and what do I take everywhere with me? The easiest thing I can conceal, use, refill and not look dumb puffing it in public since I spend a majority of my day NOT at home and that is my 901.

My general consensus with a lot of these models is that YOU can virtually do a lot of things to produce just as good of a vapor out of one model like another model.

At work I get my 901 producing so much vapor that I can literally generate a cloud of fog around my head which looks like that of a normal cigarette (of course it dissipates much quicker).

Anyway that is my opinion after trying three kits within a week (I quit smoking last Saturday).

 

[Sun Vaporer]

It seems like so many new members have little patience to do the research. I do agree that it is overwhelming at times. Unfortunately, most users on this forum have not tried the better PV's (personal vaporizers) available whether it is due to money or shipping times. I will make it simple: 95% of PV's have batteries that are too small for the intended use and an automatic switch that can be easily broken. Just so you know, I am a user only. I sell nothing. But if you want a more consistent and stronger throat hit similar to analogs, vapor production and long battery life (6-8 hours), then you need a 1000mah battery with a manual switch. That is all there is to it. And there are only two ways to get one like this that I am aware of. Make one, which many on here have (see the mod section) or buy the screwdriver.

PS: the next alternative after that which although not as good but better than the typical battery is using a USB pass-through. Unfortunately, they break quite easily unless you are very careful with them.

Wv--you have highlighted the relevant points of the PV and the only solutions. Either make a MOD or buy an SD--otherwise it is a constant day by day frustrating experience----Sun

 

[tribalmasters]

I had an 801 (returned it) and I can agree with your assessment in comparison to a mini or super mini. But it doesn't come close to the vapor, throat hit or battery life of a manual switched, 1000mah unit.

I have a USB passthrough with...wait for it...2000mah Kensington USB battery pack!! 5 volts is not much lower than 6 volts! I have been smoking the penstyle for coming up to a year and I know its a bloody good smoker. Its also quite cheap when compared to other less capable smokers.

I don't know what was up with your penstyle!

--EDIT-- forgot to mention you will taste the e-liquid with the penstyle

 

[K.P.]

SvcJ, relax. Even if US-based suppliers are ordered to close up, it's unlikely you would have much if any problem ordering from outside the US.

Also, relax, the 901 (or it's RN-clone) is a good compromise on all the important factors (performance, satisfaction, comfort in the hand, ease of use and upkeep, battery-life, availability of spare parts, start-up cost, etc). After you've had one for a bit and have first-hand-experience using one, you'll have a good idea which elements are most important to you and which aren't, and that'll make it an easy decision if you want to upgrade or try a different model.

Or, to put it another way, I've read lots of people expressing regret over having first gone with an over-priced supplier, or one with poor customer service. I've rarely read anyone express regret over the specific model of e-cig they chose first, and possibly never read anyone expressing regret at having chosen the 901 to try first.

 

[Vapor Fiend]

Yeah that's why I decided to go with the 901, seems everyone's got more GOOD things to say than bad.

Also I'm not worried so much about getting the e-cigs but being able to use them anywhere. I used to order analog cigarettes from a UK supplier so I know about the shipping time and shipping from outside the us.