I need (food grade) silicone blocks to make RTA plugs - any sources

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You know what you could use though, you could get your hands on the exact size you want if you just buy some o rings of the right cross section. Simply cut them to the length you need, no whittling necessary.


Sorry, I don't follow you. How is an oring supposed to plug up air channels, plug up juice channels and take up the space of virtually a whole side of the chamber?
 
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have not tried anything yet. Still mulling it over as to what I'm going to try first.
I was thinking about this since your first post. I'm thinking personally, I would try using one of the food grade liquid/tube silicone. I would use aluminum foil against the build posts (as a wall) and if possible the side of the rta cover for the other side. I would let the silicone into the liquid port (may be cotton for a wall) and then trim if needed. This might get you close to a seal you would be looking for. Just thinking out loud.
 
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I like threads like this too. For a couple of years, I had been looking for glides to replace the ones at the bottom my frameless glass shower doors. The originals were acrylic and broken. The tub/shower is about 20 years old so no one sold parts for it anymore.

I was aware of people melting HDPE plastic and using it to make lots of different items. So, I thought I'd try to make my own glides out of HDPE. Most liquid detergent bottles and 5 gallon buckets are made of HDPE, so it's easy to get and cheap/free. After it cools, it can be cut with a band saw, table saw, lathe, router and hand saws. I don't think a knife will work because it's very hard after cooling. There is molding involved but, I just used a small loaf pan lined with parchment paper.

I succeeded in making one that was wider than the originals and it worked well enough that I don't think I need more.

Not sure if it would work for your project but there are youtube videos showing how to do it.
 
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I know it may sound far fetched but what about kitchen silicone utensils? You might be able to find a small spatula (silicone) that is thick enough. Just a silly thought. Other ideas is to look in kitchen/bakeware for silicon products. Of course they would have to be 100% silicon.
I was thinking the same way. You also get cake pans made from food safe silicone which makes the options for size, better.
 

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I was thinking about this since your first post. I'm thinking personally, I would try using one of the food grade liquid/tube silicone. I would use aluminum foil against the build posts (as a wall) and if possible the side of the RTA cover for the other side. I would let the silicone into the liquid port (may be cotton for a wall) and then trim if needed. This might get you close to a seal you would be looking for. Just thinking out loud.

I like this idea a lot because silicone caulking is relatively cheap and comes conveniently in a tube.

However here's what I'm thinking...

Silicone caulking sticks to metal. And one of the reasons I try to avoid using silicone caulking in home projects is because it is damn near impossible completely to remove the residue that cured silicone caulking leaves on surfaces it has cures to without the use of harsh solvents. Even scraping it off doesn't completely remove the residue.

What I would need is something that I could coat the surfaces with so that the silicone would not stick to the surfaces when cured.

And also, I'm skeptical about silicone caulking because even though they say it's food safe, because it sticks like glue to smooth surfaces I think there may be chemicals in it that I won't want sitting in my RTA chamber. After all, why would silicone stick to a smooth surface? But silicone caulking does just that since it's designed to seal around smooth (often shiny) surfaces like sinks and tubs.

I'm beginning to wonder if @HigherStateD has a better solution here assuming the Copy Flex stuff doesn't stick to surfaces like the caulking does. But it's more expensive and also does not conveniently come in a tube :D. But I have not ruled it out as a possibility.

I have looked into the moldable ear plugs and have not ruled those out either. However, I'm not ready to make a decision either way.

The Sugru or (even home made Oogru) is out of the question as it contains glues. While Sugru is non-toxic, they themselves state on a comment on a Youtube video that it is not Food Safe.

From Sugru representative...
whilst both of our formulas (Original & Family-safe) are non-toxic, but are not certified as food-safe
 
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Silicone caulking sticks to metal. And one of the reasons I try to avoid using silicone caulking in home projects is because it is damn near impossible completely to remove the residue that cured silicone caulking leaves on surfaces it has cures to without the use of harsh solvents. Even scraping it off doesn't completely remove the residue.
Maybe instead of the silicone caulking for home use look instead of silicone sealant used for Fish Tanks, fresh and/or salt water. I'm not sure this silicone is food grade, but it's safe for Fish both fresh and salt water. Just another thought....
 
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Maybe instead of the silicone caulking for home use look instead of silicone sealant used for Fish Tanks, fresh and/or salt water. I'm not sure this silicone is food grade, but it's safe for Fish both fresh and salt water. Just another thought....

I've never used it, but since it bonds to smooth surfaces just like the home-use stuff, I'm not sure that's any different.
 

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I've never used it, but since it bonds to smooth surfaces just like the home-use stuff, I'm not sure that's any different.
Agreed, I just don't know. Last thought would be to used the food grade silicone in a tube and instead of molding it within your RTA, you mold it in a self made mode out of foil, etc. into maybe a square block that you can let cure and then cut/shave to fit.
 

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what about super sculpey? it's a polymer like silicone, thought not food grade. it's a clay I use to make little sculptures. you bake it in the oven and it hardens. as long as it is far and away from the coil.... I don't see why it'd be more dangerous than silicone, but I'm not an expert on the matter.
 

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So I thought I'd update for anyone interested in this topic.

I went to walmart tonight and I just happen to notice the moldable earplugs mentioned by a couple people in this thread. Since they were cheap, I decided to buy a pack. Not the brand name "Mack's" but walmart's store brand.

I'll be trying it on an RTA here in the next day or so.

One thing I didn't expect about them is that they are easily sliced with a fingernail or pulled apart into bits, I mean really easy. Very much like a piece of jelly fish candy or something like that. This could turn out to be both good and bad.

Will update later.
 

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Well I decided to try it tonight. All I did was plug up the air hole and wick holes on one side of the deck, leaving the space above them completely open.

Just as I suspected, the flavor is extremely muted. Reason being is because when the air hits the single coil, the vapor fills the chamber before going up the chimney, muting the flavor. And I'm not a flavor junky so that flavor is muted a lot lol!

These ear plugs are extremely malleable so it touch making a plug that takes up the hole site as well as plugging up the wick holes and air holes. as too as you put pressure on it it goes all over the place.

I have some ideas so I'm not giving up, far from it. But worse comes to worse, if I can't get this to work, I'm going to order some "hard" silicone plugs.
 
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