I need help with a better build and ohms

[zoiDman]

Will point out there is nothen wrong with mtl vaping if that’s what ur looking for op did not seem be looking for that 32 amps is under the max of some 30 amp CDR cells


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Are we talking about some 30A CDR batteries? Or are we talking about the one that the OP is Using?

 

[zoiDman]

Good point I will stop yes I red line my mods I will keep my posting to adv users looking to push it


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Hey don't get me wrong. Whatever you want to do with Your Mods and Your Batteries is your business. And if you want to Draw more Amps that what a Battery is Rated For, don't let me stop you.

But this is an Open Forum. And there is a Lot of People who read Threads like this who have Little or No Experience with Mechs and or Battery Specs.

Doesn't seem Right to make a Case for Exceeding a CDR Rating. Just because that is the Only Way you know of to Get the Hit you seem to want.

 

[Outcast]

Forget about the Numbers for a Second.

The Question I would like to know is Why would someone want to Hover right at the Amp Limit of a Battery, or as you have Posted Many Times, exceed the Limits of a Battery, when a Simpler and Safer Solution would just be to use Thinner Wire?

Thinker let’s u build longer coils that gives more coil mass for bigger clouds yes I have a love for n90 20 and 22g fast ramp up hot coils big clouds


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[zoiDman]

Thinker let’s u build longer coils that gives more coil mass for bigger clouds yes I have a love for n90 20 and 22g fast ramp up hot coils big clouds


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20 and 22ga NiChrome Coils with Fast Ramp-Up on a Single Battery Mech. I'll have to Remember that one.

I think we are Done here.

 

[Outcast]

20 and 22ga NiChrome Coils with Fast Ramp-Up on a Single Battery Mech. I'll have to Remember that one.

I think we are Done here.

At lest I did not post what I really vape at was told not to but gave a ohm around 30amp CDR


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[zoiDman]

BTW - This is why Most of us here on the ECF Harp on Safe Vape practices when using a Mech Mod.

Tanks on mech mods...

 

[Baditude]

BTW - This is why Most of us here on the ECF Harp on Safe Vape practices when using a Mech Mod.

Tanks on mech mods...

Agree. Mechanical mods are not "Plug and Play" safe. Users must know what they are doing to be "relatively safe". Using batteries beyond their safe limits does not fall into that category of "relatively safe". You are just asking for trouble if you do.

Which is why I include my A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod for all new mech users on ECF. Many newcomers are naive when it comes to using a mechanical mod. We don't need so-called veterans suggesting unsafe battery practices to noobs. That is irresponsible.

 

[stols001]

I really... So much justification for non-safe practices and niggling going on, it's unfortunate.

A safe build is not "the max I can push my battery to on it's very first day of vaping, and I will use NO built in safety add-ons to account for variations in testing one's build, the build changing as it is heated (depending on type of wire, but often resistance can change over time, usually declining) and an obsessive desire for a hot, dense vape and these are all really tragic practices.

It's almost as if there is an INTEREST in being on "the edge" of safety, or building to the maximum performance.

I don't buy a wattage mod that is only capable of 60 watts and then vape it at 59.9 watts-- because it's a bad idea and will strain batteries and mod, so why people think this is so cool to do simply because it's a mech escapes me.

As far as I'm concerned if I ever vape a mech I will leave myself AT LEAST 0.40 resistance for safety if not MORE in the right direction, not niggle about but my batteries can do THIS. I want more clouds! I want a hot vape! I will certainly calculate the numbers (and probably soon with the husband) but there is no need for this type of vaping practice (period) IMO, I think a lot of new mech users have that thrill seeking thing going on, and it's odd as one sees that much less with regulated mechs.

Maybe mechs are sexy? What happened to that dude's face was the epitome, the nadir of UNSEXY. Mechs are nice, I'm quite sure, especially for folks who really want to try that type of vaping, but they should be considered sticks of dynamite LITERALLY/ACTUALLY but not FIGURATIVELY.

And yes, newcomers do read these threads, so saying "I will reserve my unsafe builds for experienced users" is not so helpful. Experienced users don't NEED that kind of feedback, they usually prefer to ARGUE against it, so really, perhaps the "bleeding edge of safety" should be thought about just a little bit harder because I don't care if I blow the hottest, thickest cloud (well if it were a fart, I might have some embarrassment) if I blow my fingers off in the process, it's not a good thing.....

Anna

 

[Outcast]

Agree. Mechanical mods are not "Plug and Play" safe. Users must know what they are doing to be "relatively safe". Using batteries beyond their safe limits does not fall into that category of "relatively safe". You are just asking for trouble if you do.

Which is why I include my A Beginner's Guide to Your First Mechanical Mod for all new mech users on ECF. Many newcomers are naive when it comes to using a mechanical mod. We don't need so-called veterans suggesting unsafe battery practices to noobs. That is irresponsible.

Are you really going to tell me a lg hb 6 can’t handle of .13 build

32amp
Mooch CDR 40 amp max dont keep on sitting here telling me I’m saying unsafe builds it’s in the CDR

Ohms law is .13 on a 4.2 volt mod is 32 Amps

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[Ben85]

Oh @Outcast just give it up... Read what has been said before. All the info is there. If you don’t get it by now - you never will. Just accept that how you vape is frowned upon and move on. You will not justify what you do to the educated members of the vape community.

 

[Wraith504]

Are you really going to tell me a lg hb 6 can’t handle of .13 build

32amp
Mooch CDR 40 amp max dont keep on sitting here telling me I’m saying unsafe builds it’s in the CDR

Ohms law is .13 on a 4.2 volt mod is 32 Amps

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I think you are missing the point people are trying to make. Just because we can doesnt mean we should. Your car can travel over 100mph doesnt mean you should.

 

[Outcast]

Ok ..... moving on


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[Baditude]

Are you really going to tell me a lg hb 6 can’t handle of .13 build

32amp
Mooch CDR 40 amp max dont keep on sitting here telling me I’m saying unsafe builds it’s in the CDR

Ohms law is .13 on a 4.2 volt mod is 32 Amps

I always go by the continuous discharge rate, not the pulse rating. Last I checked 32 amps is over 30 amp.

Battery Amp Ratings: Continuous vs Pulse Ratings
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum​

Regardless, vaping at or above the continuous discharge rate means your setup is automatically over-spec'd. Vaping that hard drains the battery faster and ages the battery faster than normal.

If someone pushes a battery too hard in a regulated mod, the chipset will warn you not to do it. A mechanical mod can't and won't do that. It will allow a battery to be abused to the point of a catastophe.

I don't drive my car engine continuously into the redline zone, because I know its not good for the engine. I don't floor it every time I'm at a stop. Pulsing a battery past its continuous discharge rate is like flooring a car.

Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 30A batteries, that would be 15A.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 30A battery may only be a 15A battery.

How often do you change out your batteries? Did you bother to tell the poster how often you have to change batteries because of how you use them?

 

[Outcast]

I always go by the continuous discharge rate, not the pulse rating. Last I checked 32 amps is over 30 amp.

Regardless, vaping at or above the continuous discharge rate means your setup is automatically over-spec'd. Vaping that hard drains the battery faster and ages the battery faster than normal.

Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 30A batteries, that would be 15A.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 30A battery may only be a 15A battery.

How often do you change out your batteries? Did you bother to tell the poster how often you have to change batteries because of how you use them?

My cells have a life of 90 dayside
If ur taking about how long I can vape on that build when adv at this 8-10 cells a day
I really did not think it would go into this
I am sorry and will not say anything more on ohms builds I been vaping like this for a long time I feel safe carry 2 tubes on me at all times if one gets hotter then I like I vape on the other

To be honest I have moved from .05 ohms on my parallel box to .1 and .08 on my tubes to .13 so to be honest felt it was a safer zone and that I would not have been trolled so much on it




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[Outcast]

I always go by the continuous discharge rate, not the pulse rating. Last I checked 32 amps is over 30 amp.

Regardless, vaping at or above the continuous discharge rate means your setup is automatically over-spec'd. Vaping that hard drains the battery faster and ages the battery faster than normal.

If someone pushes a battery too hard in a regulated mod, the chipset will warn you not to do it. A mechanical mod can't and won't do that. It will allow a battery to be abused to the point of a catastophe.

I don't drive my car engine continuously into the redline zone, because I know its not good for the engine. I don't floor it every time I'm at a stop. Pulsing a battery past its continuous discharge rate is like flooring a car.

Everyone is free to set their own parameters, and I can only say what mine are.

I try to never exceed 50% of the CDR (continuous discharge rating) of a fully charged battery (4.2v). So with a 30A batteries, that would be 15A.

The reason that I place a 50% limit is because as a battery ages the mAh of the battery degrades, as the mAh degrades so does the batteries c rating (amp limit). So down the road, your 30A battery may only be a 15A battery.

How often do you change out your batteries? Did you bother to tell the poster how often you have to change batteries because of how you use them?

But last time I checked mooch is calling the pink lg hb6 a CDR of 32 Amps


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[Baditude]

@Outcast. No disrespect meant. I just believe that there are a lot of naive vapers who are looking for safe advice on these forums. I believe we do a disservice to them if we make suggestions which are not in their best interests.

I'm out.

 

[Outcast]

@Outcast. No disrespect meant. I just believe that there are a lot of naive vapers who are looking for safe advice on these forums. I believe we do a disservice to them if we make suggestions which are not in their best interests.

I'm out.

Point taking


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