I need some expert guidance please - might have to switch my e-cig E8 for ??

[debbism]

I got my E8 from e-cig.com and apparently it is only available to order directly from China. At this point, I am extremely dissappointed but am not sure which way to go next...................Here are my issues with the actual e-cig AND the company:

1. I only vape in the evenings, but my long baatery only lasts for the equivalent of 5 cigarettes (I am guestimating on that) about 1/3 of the way through its charge, I get very little vapor

2. Cartridge is empty very quickly and then I get that chemical buring taste

3. The empty cartridges I ordered to fill with my choice of liquid has a very odd chemical flavor and I have to refill the cartridge 4-5 times before it is cleared of the weird taste.....until that point, I cannot even taste the flavor of my e-liquids. The pre-filled catridges do not have that issue. After they have been used, the first refill tastes just fine to me

4. Cartridge heats up badly after only 2-3 drags. makes vaping unpleasant to the touch. Most of their pre-filled cartridges also crackle and pop or leak everywhere.

5. Customer service blows. returns take forever, they do not communicate, orders are incorrect and they keep changing prices so I feel like if I had waited a day or two longer, i could have gotten a better deal.

So here is my quandry.....the US based office, who works with the manufacturer can only help me so much in expediting returns TO China but says I can return EVERYTHING if my issues are not cleared up even though my initial purchase was back in June.

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There is way more information than I have time to sift through so I could use some guidance here based upon my needs and preferences.

I am looking to switch from my e-cig E8 mini cig. This is my ultimate goal here....

1. Slim - I used to smoke Eve light 120's and they were slim - tapered tips may be an option for me I assume

2. Taste - I want to avoid the chemical taste and get a cleaner flavor from my liquids

3. Battery life - I'd like it to last a reasonable amount of time - e-cigs die very very fast

4. Avoiding hot cartridges - the e-cig cartridge heats up too fast and burns me.

5. Ease of use - Automatic e-cigs are preferable over manual to keep things simpler - of course dripping will be more involved but I am OK with that

6. Appearance - of course, if I go with a drip stick, it is not going to look like a cigarette but close to it in shape...for instance, when I look at the cigs on the vaporheads.net website, the 510 mega drip stick is more like what I would like rather than the 510 EGO which does not resemble a cig in any way.....but since I have no idea how the drip stick works YET, I cannot determine if it is right for me....I'll be contacting them for the info of course..

If you have gotten this far in my post, I thank you for reading and bearing with me in trying to explain myself in a world where I do not have all of the proper terminology just yet. Any guidance would be appreciated!!!

Thanks all!!

 

[tinstar15]

I could be wrong but it sounds to me like you would be a good candidate for a cartomizer style kit. Unfortunately a super slim style cigarette doesn't really exist but I can think of three kit styles that may fit the bill.

1) A set of 510 cartomizers and a set of auto batteries, either regular sized or the longer extra life batteries. cartos are relatively easy to refill via the Condom Method and you can fill them with whatever flavor you prefer.

2) A KR808d set with cartomizers, pretty much the same as above. Both the 510 and the KR808 are going to be thicker sized, more like a regular analog size as opposed to a slim.

3) A modernvapor sidesho. This one isn't a carto style, it uses cartridges and atomizers. I only mention this one as a friend of mine smoked Virginia Slims and mentioned that those made her happy. Might work for you too.

 

[mutt4a]

I'd seriously consider backing off of the "manual/Auto" thing. Its really very quick and easy to adapt to the manual style, and well, its a lot more reliable.

After that I would agree/ 510 with cartomizers. Then after you get sick of swapping the batteries next step is to give up the "slim" option and move on into the ego. Pretty much the route i went, actually. Replace my ciggy w/ as little difference as possible. Now i dont want it to look like nor act like a ciggy..

 

[CaptJay]

Have you read thorugh our Library section? If not - start there first http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ping-illustrated-guide-e-cigs-part-1-6-a.html - I dont know the company you bought from but the ones (and there are many) we have registered as forum suppliers can do a much mor epopular model with readily available parts. I myself starte with a basic Joye510 (very slim like a pen and roughly the dimensions of a pen too) and got an eGo (also by Joye and a 510 atty as well) later (size of an AA battery for its battery)
Manuals are by far better imo - much easier to use and you have more control over your experience.
I dont use carts at all any more btw - I drip - I find it easier and for ME at least its just as convenient

 

[Buzzy]

I would echo CaptJay, that the article in the Library section is a good place to start. One thing not mentioned yet, though, is that the standard 510s are only 180mah batteries, so they also don't last long before needing a recharge. Probably about the same as your E8. However, there are also mega 510 batteries, or xl 510s, I forget which nomenclature is standard there. Those are 280mah, the same as KR808D-1s. They will go almost twice as long between charges. Both models are fairly common, and can be purchased from a number of vendors. Try Cignot for 510s or CigEasy or Vapornine for KR808D-1s. 901 attys will fit a KR808D-1 which usually uses cartomizers. And there are cartomizers for 510s which usually use atomizers. However both of these are slightly longer than your E8 (the 510xls that is).

 

[LowThudd]

I'll recomend to you what I wish I had gotten to begin w/ ego w/ eGo mega cylinder atty and carts. Batt life is great, the cart holds 2.5ml of juice. For your purposes, you would only need to fill/charge once a day to be happy. And it is alot smaller than it looks. I have large hands, but not that big(large size gloves are alittle long in the fingers for me).

 

[Hoosier]

Hey now the folk above are recommending larger batteries. That's because you want 2 things that cannot happen. You want a longer battery charge life, but you want it small.

If you had a big trailer that you hauled around all the time you'd go with? Nope, not a compact... You have to go big to get the power. Vehicle engines and batteries, the physics are true, big can have power, small not so much.

Pick which you HAVE to have and go from there.

 

[LowThudd]

Hey now the folk above are recommending larger batteries. That's because you want 2 things that cannot happen. You want a longer battery charge life, but you want it small.

If you had a big trailer that you hauled around all the time you'd go with? Nope, not a compact... You have to go big to get the power. Vehicle engines and batteries, the physics are true, big can have power, small not so much.

Pick which you HAVE to have and go from there.

The eGo is very comfortable in the hand. I prefere the size of the standard 650mAh batt(shown above), but even the xl batts are smaller than you'd think and last all day, even heavy vaping.

 

[Springbird]

I am currently very happy with an Ego with the mega cartomizer (long battery life,holds 2mL of e-juice and doesn't need much attention,not very cig shaped) and my Vapor for Life XL Kr808D-1. The V4L is more like an regular analog for width, but it is pretty long. It has great battery life. V4L makes a cartomizer called a Cool Cart that is designed to not get hot. It also holds a little more juice. It fits on all of their batteries. Hope this helps.

 

[debbism]

OK...so based upon what you good folks have suggested and what I am reading, going manual should be relatively easy. I guess I wrote the wrong info in my original post - i AM actually using cartomizers..... but based on the bad experiences I am having with them, I am not sure if I want to keep using them. I have been reading more in here since my post and thinking that direct dripping might make me happier. I suppose that I asked for too much and i should take a chance and slim down my "wants list"....afterall, aside from being a healthier alternative to analogs, it SHOULD be an adventure, right?

So, based upon the responses thus far, a Joye 510 (mega) or EGO may very well be my best options....are both OK for direct dripping?

If i do that, do I just use a drip tip instead of a cartridge? Are there flat tipped drip tips? That might satisfy my desire for a slim

 

[LowThudd]

OK...so based upon what you good folks have suggested and what I am reading, going manual should be relatively easy. I guess I wrote the wrong info in my original post - i AM actually using cartomizers..... but based on the bad experiences I am having with them, I am not sure if I want to keep using them. I have been reading more in here since my post and thinking that direct dripping might make me happier. I suppose that I asked for too much and i should take a chance and slim down my "wants list"....afterall, aside from being a healthier alternative to analogs, it SHOULD be an adventure, right?

So, based upon the responses thus far, a Joye 510 (mega) or EGO may very well be my best options....are both OK for direct dripping?

If i do that, do I just use a drip tip instead of a cartridge? Are there flat tipped drip tips? That might satisfy my desire for a slim

Yes, if you are going to direct drip, you'll use a 510 atty, and drip tips. Nice thing about the eGo is you also have the option of using an LR atty, which will increase vapor and TH. Some like it, some don't. But it is nice to have the option. Also w/ the eGo, if you drip, the cone will keep leakage to nill. It collects in the cone if you inevidably drip too much(it hapens some times w/ dripping). The eGo mega cartos or attys/carts are UNBELIEVABLE vapor producers. Very satisfying. If unsudre, you can always get one carto for @ $3.

 

[Springbird]

Ditto on the Ego mega cartomizers, big vapor, big TH, low maintenance. I also like to drip when I don't have to pay attention to something else at the same time (driving). I ordered a drip tip when I ordered the Ego.

 

[debbism]

OK...what is an "LR Atty" not sure what the LR stands for. I am kinda torn between the eGo and the 510 mega. I like the super long size of the 510 mega but if I am going to venture into the world of dripping, an eGo might be good too.....

BUT that being said, I am LOVING the look of the 510 black mega battery with the purple LED tip - yes, appearance is a factor as well.

 

[Automaton]

As others have mentioned, you are just not going to find a single model with great battery life in a slim package, especially if you don't like cartomizers. The Kr808D-1 has the longest battery life you can get from a mini e-cig (4-6 hours), but it's a cartomizer system.

What seems to me to be your best fit will require you to do some shopping.

Get Kr808D-1 batteries, and DSE 901 atomizers. They fit together without an adapter. The Kr808 batteries get good life, and the 901 atomizers are some of the cleanest-tasting, most flavorful atomizers around. Combine that with a drip tip, and you're set. They also make flat-tip carts for the 901, which looks very pretty indeed (the carts last about an hour for me).

So, for this you would need:
- 2 or 3 Kr808D-1 batteries (about $10 a piece)
- A Kr808D-1 charger ($7-9)
- 901 atomizers ($6-8 a piece)
- A 510/901 drip tip ($3-5)
- Possibly some 901 carts, for when you can't take the time to drip ($4-5 for 5)

You can get all of that stuff here:
Electro-Nic-Stix the best electronic cigarette in the usa

I bought my kit from them and had a very good experience.

I think that is the most likely possibility to work for you. It is definitely longer than a cig, and slightly wider, but it maintains the sleek profile you're looking for.

Alternatively, you could try a 510, but the battery life isn't very good.

Or, you could try an eGo, but that doesn't have the shape you're looking for.

But no matter what model you get, I would STRONGLY recommend you get manual batteries. If you drip too much, and the juice leaks into an automatic battery, it can kill the battery. Manual batteries are sealed, so there is no risk of that.

P.S. Here is a picture of what a Kr808D-1 battery, 901 atomizer, and 901 flat-tip cart looks like. I decorated the battery myself.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...t-getting-carried-away-again.html#post1768035

 

[tinstar15]

You may try checking for local vaper's groups. See if they have any meets in your area. It will give you a chance to see other models of PVs and see if you find something that suits you that way. I personally bought around a dozen different models before settling in with an ego with the mega xl attys much like the one pictured a few posts up. I still however keep a mini Boge PCC (shorter than a standard Joye PCC, see gatorvapor.com) and a set of 510 manual batteries and cartos for some circumstances. I also still use my Joye stick, RN e-cigars, DSE601 pipe, and a KR minipipe on occasion. Every now and then I even drag out my Joye 302/Be112 Penstyle. Having options is nice and keeps the experience from becoming too routine. On the other hand, it is also expensive to buy a dozen different models.

If you like the long look, you might try a penstyle. Batteries last pretty long, are light weight, and it comes standard with a whistle tip. Auto batteries are fine in them, but manual batteries provide a more consistent experience. They have that "breakfast at tiffany's" look that you might like. Instead of worrying too much about looks, you should really focus on performance. Find a model that satisfies your cravings over one that satisfies your sense of taste and you will probably be happier in the long run.

In answer to your question, LR stands for Low Resistance, i.e. the coil heats up quicker in a shorter period of time.

And to agree with the above poster, a 901 is also a very nice choice.

 

[debbism]

OK...so I must send out a huge thank you to everyone who not only responded with helpful guidance but also didn't make me feel like a complete pud. The 510 and eGo are the contenders based upon the information and what I ultimately want and need...I am ditching carts it seems and I am no longer afraid of manual batteries. You all are great. I am feeling like vaping is becoming far more fun than analogs ever were....so many choices!!!

 

[banjo]

Good luck in your quest! Except for your size preference, I would recommend the eGO because of the larger battery size, which I don't think you will find to be a problem, especially since you will be able to get almost a full day of vaping on a single charge. Also, since the eGO is very popular, you will have no problem finding one at a good price, and replacement parts are easy to come by. Your next problem is going to be finding a liquid that you like, and the proper nicotine level... All the best to you!

 

[LowThudd]

OK...what is an "LR Atty" not sure what the LR stands for. I am kinda torn between the eGo and the 510 mega. I like the super long size of the 510 mega but if I am going to venture into the world of dripping, an eGo might be good too.....

BUT that being said, I am LOVING the look of the 510 black mega battery with the purple LED tip - yes, appearance is a factor as well.

LR=Low Resistence. Simulates higher voltage. Basically puts out alot more vapor.

 

[Steakpak]

I also started with e-cig.com. I went with the e9 as opposed to the e8. One of the two batteries I got with the kit died the first day and I have yet to receive a response from them on a replacement. That was two weeks ago. I gave up on that. But I did order empty cartos and found those to be much better than their prefilled. I don't get that chemical smell or taste you speak of. Just pure flavor of whatever juice I'm using. Maybe it has to do with how you are filling it and if you're putting enough in. This is what I do to fill empty cartos. I put ten drops in while turning the carto so it spreads. Then, i put it on the end of a string to twirl it a few times around so the juice gets to the bottom of the carto faster. Then I drop another ten in and do the same twirl. Then I vape. After a little while, when the vapor starts to diminish, I add a few more drops. I've learned to make sure the filler inside looks like a slushy. Shouldn't have liquid pooled on top, but it needs to stay wet. Hope that helps a little bit.

 

[zkz]

yea, and the joye ego too
I have the manual joye 510.
I have the auto kr808d.
I love them all, there is no problems with switching from manual battery to auto battery for me, might be different for others.
i was surprised yesterday when my 808 lasted 12 hours with a 901 atty attached to it, mind you this was with light use (had 4 differient setups going at once).
I like the light slim feel of the 510 and the 808 but use the ego and the box mod most because of the extended batt life though.
I like the attys and the carts over the cartos but thats my personal choice, they both have their distinct advantages.
remember, don't drip and drive, unless you want to pass the time away while stuck in traffic jams.