I still think sometihng is wrong with my UFS

[wigglr]

I got the UFS v2 the night it was released, and ever since then I haven't been able to get it to work properly.

For some time now I've just been unscrewing the top and then re-screwing it to get juice into it.

I have the air control open about 1 cm (less than 1/8 of a turn), and juice open (different amounts but I have gone all the way open) and still I get no feed. Just a LOUD sound of air going through it. I feel like the old-age home may want this UFS because I get more air from it than from when I breathe. Some old man may live longer with this extra air I'm getting.

It's now frustrating to me to the point where I want to get angry... you know like throw it or something? Since the device is worth 350+ dollars, I have refrained lol

What should I do?

 

[wigglr]

Don't get me wrong -- when it hits right, It's amaaaazing. It's just there is so much I have to do to get that to happen

 

[ChaosAffect]

What kind of juice are you using? I use 50/50 PG/VG, and I do have to unscrew the cap occasionally to get it to feed. If you're using 100%VG juice then that could explain your problem.

 

[wigglr]

BH original

 

[fright88]

Have you tried vaping without the very top cap on? Ie put the o ring on then tighten the top cap back on then either remove it or back it off to where it is loose?

 

[ChaosAffect]

Yeah, but what's the PV/VG ratio?

BH original

 

[wigglr]

Have you tried vaping without the very top cap on? Ie put the o ring on then tighten the top cap back on then either remove it or back it off to where it is loose?

I have tried with it loosened. I don't think it worked but it is something to try again. Do I tighten it down then just back it off?

 

[wigglr]

Yeah, but what's the PV/VG ratio?

I believe 65% PG - it's pretty thin

 

[Major]

I have tried with it loosened. I don't think it worked but it is something to try again. Do I tighten it down then just back it off?

Either that or just put it on enough that you feel it making contact with the O-ring.

 

[ChaosAffect]

Eh, that's still pretty thick. Ideal mix for tanks systems is more like 80/20.

I believe 65% PG - it's pretty thin

 

[thedudeabides]

Hey bud, I recently convinced a family member of mine to get a GGTS and UFS having only used eGo's before. I had him over for a few drinks and I showed him the ways of the UFS, we disassembled, re-assembled and I showed him how to dial in his juice flow. He's off and running and hasn't had an issue since.

Point is, we're both up here in MA, maybe I can hold a little clinic for you at the next NE vape meet or something?

It's really not all that bad, once you understand the mechanics and how the pressure in the chamber works you'll never have another problem. I used anything from very thin PG to 100% VG and I can adjust for pretty much any viscosity. I don't believe there is a single juice type which won't work in the UFS (atomizers are a different story).

 

[Major]

See? Now you gotta love the GG Family folks! Good stuff Dude!

 

[fright88]

I have tried with it loosened. I don't think it worked but it is something to try again. Do I tighten it down then just back it off?

That is pretty much what I do. I tighten it down pretty snugly to set the o ring in place then back it off almost completely and tighten it with 1 finger with light pressure. Once I meet any resistance I stop.

The juice I am vaping right now is pretty freaking thick. I have some of the thickest VG nic juice I have ever seen and the flavor base is 70/30 pg/vg. The nic juice is so thick it won't go through my 18 guage syringe at any speed (read 1 minute of putting as much pressure on the plunger as I can gets me 1 ml through the needle i actually broke 2 plungers before I moved on to just using graduated cylinders and pouring.) My final mis ratio is 7/15 pg 8/15 vg so I think 65%pg juice should be ok. I have also read about people using pure VG.

Also I don't mean to offend but make sure the air controll ring is on the correct way (o ring side down) The tighter the air draw the more likely juice is to enter the atty on a regular vape hit or primer hit. If you close the air controll completely and leave the juice controll open and take a prime hit does juice go into the atty? If not you may try ordering a replacement o ring for the top.

 

[atavanhalen]

Hey wigglr have you happened to see mergryphon's video on the ufs? Its high def and really explains a lot, I know I learned a lot by watching it.

 

[imeothanasis]

wig, the only issue that can happen on UFS is overflooding by a machine's mistake but this is very rare to happen. There is no way for UFS to not vape because it seals well. So the problem is with your atomizers. But if there is no way to make it work right then the solution is to sell it buddy and wait for Odysseus.

If someone cant be happy with Odysseus then he is not happy with vaping

 

[wigglr]

Hahaha I really think I'm making progress with my UFS since last night! Thanks guys for sticking w me. I will get it right

 

[wigglr]

That is pretty much what I do. I tighten it down pretty snugly to set the o ring in place then back it off almost completely and tighten it with 1 finger with light pressure. Once I meet any resistance I stop.

The juice I am vaping right now is pretty freaking thick. I have some of the thickest VG nic juice I have ever seen and the flavor base is 70/30 pg/vg. The nic juice is so thick it won't go through my 18 guage syringe at any speed (read 1 minute of putting as much pressure on the plunger as I can gets me 1 ml through the needle i actually broke 2 plungers before I moved on to just using graduated cylinders and pouring.) My final mis ratio is 7/15 pg 8/15 vg so I think 65%pg juice should be ok. I have also read about people using pure VG.

Also I don't mean to offend but make sure the air controll ring is on the correct way (o ring side down) The tighter the air draw the more likely juice is to enter the atty on a regular vape hit or primer hit. If you close the air controll completely and leave the juice controll open and take a prime hit does juice go into the atty? If not you may try ordering a replacement o ring for the top.

Haha don't worry I checked the oRing on the air control ring. As I said though I've implemented a couple tips and I kept fiddling and I THINK I may have gotten it

I'm on my phone I wish i could do that banana dance thing



Did it work?

 

[Repent]

Haha don't worry I checked the oRing on the air control ring. As I said though I've implemented a couple tips and I kept fiddling and I THINK I may have gotten it

I'm on my phone I wish i could do that banana dance thing



Did it work?

Yep the banana is dancing. How do you do that on the phone? Maybe just type in an opening colon followed by the word "banana" and an ending colon? Hmmm....

Anyway I know what you mean by your troubles. I got that too. All in the vacuum. I typically use 70/30, maybe some 60/40 and it can be a trick sometimes.

Just remember to make adjustments to the juice control a little bit at a time. That's the secret, IMHO. It doesn't take much "pressure relief" to offset the vacuum created inside the juice tank. Too much pressure relief and you'll get a flood of juice. Too little pressure relief and you get no juice. You want to be just "this side" of "too much".

With the air control, I typically will increase suction by closing off the air control ring, while slowly opening the juice control until I hear the beginnings of gurgling. I will then close off the juice control by one half of the amount of my last adjustment. Continue to do dry vapes (in concert with adjusting the air control) to suck the juice into the DC carto, which I typically use on UFS. It's a dance to be sure.

Add to this mix in the thought process of controlling juice via the juice control ring and the air control ring the fact that temperature, elevation, barometric pressure, and amount of juice in the tank all play a part in vacuum feeding. When you read of someone complaining that they left their mod on the nightstand at night when it was feeding perfectly and the next morning all their juice has leaked out it would because of overnight changes in temperature and barometric pressure. Go on an airplane flight with a full juice tank and the controls set perfectly for feeding at ground level. When you reach cruising altitude you'll have an empty mod and a pocket full of juice. Then you won't be doing the