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IF Big Tobacco is smart, they will push for the FDA to impose a level of regulation similar to the regulations currently on the cosmetics industry.
Sure, if you want some lip gloss or perfume, the stuff you can get at the local department store is ALL made by big multinational corporations who, like BT, use all kinds of synthetic crap in it, and make it in robotic clean rooms and then lie to us an tell is it's safe.
But if you do your homework, you can find vendors (mostly small, local places that sell only locally, or over the internet) who are ACTUALLY making organic, healthy, and non-marmful products that perform well. They still have to meet certain requirements for cleanliness, labeling, and the claims they make about their products, but they ARE available, an many of them are FANTASTIC.
In an ideal world, that's what I'd like to see. Such a scenario gives BT the ability to explode the market through aggressive advertizing, large-scale manufacturing (and the price drops that come from that) and MASSIVE networks for sales and distribution through national retail chains like 7-11, WalMart, Target, and Walgreens. AND it allows the "little guys" to stay in the game, catering to the hobbyists, the niche-market fanatics, and the enthusiasts and aficianados (who BT doesn't care about anyway, and wouldn't get business from under any condition anyway...)
The FDA is, perhaps, the 2nd or 3rd most corrupt, authoritatrian, and tyrannical agency in the US Government (after BATFE and DHS). So expecting the FDA to do ANYTHING that actually benefits consumers, promotes healthy alternatives, or provides for a fair marketplace without a MASSIVE effort on the part of consumers and consumer-rights-activists is delusional.
The FDA WILL try their best to destroy small business in this sector. They WILL try their hardest to keep truly healthy products OFF the market. They WILL give special exemptions to their cronies in BT, and allow them to put all sorts of evil, toxic and highly-addictive chemicals into their products that they would TOTALLY crack down on a small company for using. They will lie about small vendors, fabricate data, manufacture fictional test results and spew negative propaganda against small juice-makers and small PV-builders.
This game is about to get REALLY ugly, people. Within the next 4 years, we will probably see a total clamp-down on the small, entrepreneurial sector of the e-cig market. We're going to see armed FDA agents with fully-automatic weapons and facemasks kicking in doors of mom-and-pop juice vendors. We're going to see DIYers getting no-knock raids for having "industrial stockpiles of controlled substances (nic liquid in any quantity greater than 250ml).
We're going to see a massive black market develop, as dedicated e-cig users, disgusted with the foul-tasting, chemical-laden garbage that Lorillard and RJR are pumping out, resort to independent, underground suppliers. We're going to see tens of thousands of law-abiding people made into criminals in the eyes of the government overnight, because they just want a good vape.
Welcome to the "New American Century", people. It's not just guns, free speech and health care rights that are under attack by the current "puppets-in-charge". It is an entire way of life--the ability of law-abiding citizens to make their own decisions about how they run their own lives--that is hanging in the balance.
And the coming attack on the diversity, entrepreneurial vigor and small-scale vibrance of the e-cig market is just the tip of the iceberg of tyranny that this Great Ship of State is being steered toward...
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Yeh, you are right. The government can't possiby ban the self-manufacturing of devices or compounds that they deem to be "controlled".
That's why there are thousands of people growing their own pot all over the country and the government can't touch them legally.
And that is why there are millions of gun owners out there who are manufacturing their own fully-automatic rifles on their own, and there is nothing the government can do to stop them...
Do you even have the faintest hint of an idea as to how the legal system works in the USA?
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A government unregulated is like a snowball going downhill, out of control that just keeps getting bigger and gaining more power. It won't stop until we the people stop drinking the koolaid.
It's almost like they want to do this just to say they care about their customers. They dont. they're a company that just wants to make more money. At the same time, they do have the potenial to make a cool product.
Yea but they will come out with a diff method and lobby to have the others taken out as BT knows best. My bet is it will be something like a nebulizer. Using compressed gas and a liquid. Then you have to buy new gas cartridges instead reusable batteries.
A lot of people don't realize just how bad the food industry has gotten. Just watch a video like "Food Inc." or "king corn". That will shake you up. What meat is eaten here I chose carefully and I do not buy preground meet. I grind it. Plus I find more substitutes for meat to cut back on all the hormones they put in it. Big food is almost but not quit as bad as BT. Don't even get me started on Big Pharma.
They have not done that much good but it is not their fault. Because changes in their funding (they are funded by the folks the police) LOL. They have a selfish interest in keeping the folks they watch in business. They have problems created by Washington. It was not always that way. It got changed by the puppets in Washington.
The GOV loves that tax money. If they were truly wanting to do away with smoking they would have banned it. Look at Alcohol. The population of the US is about 300 mil. 10% of that are Alcoholics and of them 90% will die before getting help. Of the remaining only about 5% make it. That is a lot of people affected not including violent crime and Drunk driver deaths. They have given mostly lip service to that problem. It's all about the money in vice taxes. If all the bad stuff went away that would be a big dent in revenue for the GOV. They love those taxes. They will tax what ever to the point but not crossing the line where we won't stand for it. They will talk about a ban and then say OK we won't ban it we will tax it. Which is what they want. No money in banning it.
Almost forgot. We had a player here in Dallas arrested for intoxication manslaughter. Killed is best friend and roommate in a car wreck. I bet you don't hear one word about that. These guys pick easy targets and Ecigs could be an easy one. Another alcohol death. Their priorities are all over the map. Bet Bob Costass will not say much about that.
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further, recently diacetly has been linked to Alzheimers. not just popcorn lung either. just eating it. previously we ha dthought that diacetyl gets broken down harmlessly by our digestive tract but perhaps not..
I agree- they all put in so many addictive additives for the nasties that I wd never trust them with our nic juice.
Well said, I second this!!!!! I guess I will be an outlaw afterwards!!!!!!!!!
Already looking into growing my own tobacco and extracting it.
you can buy plants online. there are some tobacco plants that we dont use for smoking, they produce much more nicotine than the variety that we smoke. I'd suggest looking into them if your interested in extracting nicotine. its going to take a lot of research but it isn't hard at all.
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