i think i know why people sub ohm now.

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I think it's just a matter of how fast you can get the metal hot. I just got into building clapton coils, and the first one I built used a 22AWG core wire and ended up at .33 Ohms. The newer coil I used a 24AWG for the core wire, and it ended up at .39 Ohms.....but the flavor actually increased, and the vapor production is about equal if not more because there's just plain less metal to heat up. Right now I have a fully charged battery waiting to go....I've only tested this with one that's at about 3.5 volts. One more session and that one's going on the charger, then I'll really get to test this build with 4.2 Volts.
 

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Watts are watts, and the amount of watts you get from your battery is determined by the amount of current (Amps) drawn times the voltage. The amount of current drawn is impacted by the resistance (Ohms) to the current. So less resistance, e.g. lower Ohms, will let more current flow and give more watts for a specific voltage. If you use a mech mod, your voltage is limited to 4.2V (fully charged battery) to about 3.3V (fully drained battery). So reducing your Ohm resistance is the best way to increase your wattage for bigger clouds and richer flavor, since you can't increase your voltage. That's why people sub Ohm. Of course there are safety issues if you reduce resistance too low and over stress your battery by draining it beyond it current output limit - e.g 20Amp or 35Amps as listed on the battery.

The beauty of regulated devices is that they allow you to adjust your voltage to give you your desired wattage output regardless of your resistance. So you'll get the same 32 watt output with a .5 Ohm build at 4 volts and you will with a 2 Ohm build at 8 volts. Plus regulated devices have software to prevent you from exceeding the current drain limits of your battery.

If you use both mechs and regulated mods, then I can see building subohm for flexibility when switching between regulated and unregulated voltage power sources. But if you use regulated devices exclusively, then don't worry about the Ohms. Just build the best combination of wire thickness and wraps to fit your RDA/RBA design and produce optimal flavor. Some people say that more wire (e.g. more wraps) gives more surface area for the wire to vaporize liquid off your wick and thus gives better flavor. Some also say that thinner wire heats up faster and gives a stronger "hit." More wraps and thinner wire means more resistance (higher Ohms) since the current has a longer and thinner "hose" to travel through. But your regulated mod lets you boost the current (by boosting the voltage) going through the wire to produce your desired wattage.
 

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If you use both mechs and regulated mods, then I can see building subohm for flexibility when switching between regulated and unregulated voltage power sources. But if you use regulated devices exclusively, then don't worry about the Ohms. Just build the best combination of wire thickness and wraps to fit your RDA/RBA design and produce optimal flavor.

this is what i been saying to people, subohm only came out because of mech mods. with vv/vw now there is no need for those crazy super subohms, i dont understand the 100watt+150watt vv/vw devices :confused:
 

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I think modders are going to figure out a way to drip juice directly into the head of a stun gun and use a littlle computer fan to blow the hot electrically charged vapor right into their pie hole.

If that becomes a thing... it is now officially trademarked by 40,000 volt pie hole fan vapes .inc <------ my new start up company

I have been trying to tell you people for a YEAR... I am simply brilliant... as usual nobody is listening... sad face...
 

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taste is more intense. even from .5 to .3, i can taste the difference. going back to .5, flavor is muted. i'm sure there are juices that doesn't work at low resistance. but i like that warm full flavor now.

I hear ya bullet08, but it's really all about the watts. If you're using mechanical mods, the only way too get that higher wattage is by lowering atty resistance. If you're using regulated mods it's all about the watts you set :)

Vape on my friend :thumb:
 

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I think modders are going to figure out a way to drip juice directly into the head of a stun gun and use a littlle computer fan to blow the hot electrically charged vapor right into their pie hole.

If that becomes a thing... it is now officially trademarked by 40,000 volt pie hole fan vapes .inc <------ my new start up company

I have been trying to tell you people for a YEAR... I am simply brilliant... as usual nobody is listening... sad face...
 

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I ordered a sigeil 100w box mod off the classies so i could try it out. I was reading and it says to get the full 100w out of it you gotta build a .3-.5 ohm coil. Oh well, at least I can try out the 1+ ohm builds on it and try it out. It was rusirius' post that led me to get a regulated mod that could put out some power, cause right now the only regulated stuff I have are a provari, and a zmax.

But yeah, I can confirm. .25-.35 ohm, dual-coil, 3.5mm ID is my sweet spot on both cloud chasing and flavor chasing RDA's. I'm still learning the ropes though, so that is guaranteed to change. Still waiting on some more wire sizes to come in the mail so I can play with clapton coils.
 
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