I think I'm done with e-cigarettes/One born every minute
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I moved from a 901 to and SD to the Janty Stick. (My wife form a 901 to a 510) All 3 have been a very positive experience. All of my equipment work great. I recently resold all of my 901 stuff, all of which was in excellent working condition.
I have been rigorous when it comes to maint and cleaning. I would say that each week I spend probably a total of 1-2 hours doing ecig "stuff" (cleaning, mixing my juice for the week, etc..... doing my wife's as well).
You get out of this what you put into it...................
I have been rigorous when it comes to maint and cleaning. I would say that each week I spend probably a total of 1-2 hours doing ecig "stuff" (cleaning, mixing my juice for the week, etc..... doing my wife's as well).
You get out of this what you put into it...................
doris's experience is why i only order from USA suppliers after a similar experience with my first e-cig. I have never been so insulted in my adult life as I was by the recommended (rave reviews) chinese manufacturer. I don't care to go into the gory details, but i did have to tell them I was having surgery for cancer and was not going to play games with their bull****.
They apologized after I threatened to expose them on the forum. Their tune changed real fast after that and they suddenly offered replacements for the defective parts and a couple freebies. BFD - in my book I was SO frickin done with them and their crap product.
They told me 'please don't tell anyone else about the freebies' and then they .....ed about how shipping costs them more than they charge. Eff'n whiners. I just shook my head in disbelief. First they manufacturer crap and then accuse you of all kinds of crap to get them to honor THEIR warranty.
These chinese suppliers must think we're all thieves which is more than insulting. If they were smart, they'd look at all their comebacks for defects and get their little chinese butts out to their production room to see what the problem is.
Now I only buy from american dealers and have had one return that was seamless. MUCH easier to mail back defect parts in the USA. Funny thing is I offered to mail it back - it wasn't requested, by the usa supplier.
You get what you pay for, and in the case of shoddy equipment, I'd much rather not deal with the chinese, customs, blah blah.
I don't blame you one bit doris. Try to keep going off analogs. You've come this far. My plan is to get off the e-cig and be done with it. I don't care to make a career out of vaping.
They apologized after I threatened to expose them on the forum. Their tune changed real fast after that and they suddenly offered replacements for the defective parts and a couple freebies. BFD - in my book I was SO frickin done with them and their crap product.
They told me 'please don't tell anyone else about the freebies' and then they .....ed about how shipping costs them more than they charge. Eff'n whiners. I just shook my head in disbelief. First they manufacturer crap and then accuse you of all kinds of crap to get them to honor THEIR warranty.
These chinese suppliers must think we're all thieves which is more than insulting. If they were smart, they'd look at all their comebacks for defects and get their little chinese butts out to their production room to see what the problem is.
Now I only buy from american dealers and have had one return that was seamless. MUCH easier to mail back defect parts in the USA. Funny thing is I offered to mail it back - it wasn't requested, by the usa supplier.
You get what you pay for, and in the case of shoddy equipment, I'd much rather not deal with the chinese, customs, blah blah.
I don't blame you one bit doris. Try to keep going off analogs. You've come this far. My plan is to get off the e-cig and be done with it. I don't care to make a career out of vaping.
Been there, done it also. I had enough, and purchased a Screw Driver about 6 weeks ago. I still have issues with performance sometimes. The SD is awesome, it is a flawless source of power. The only troubles I have are with the atomizer's themselves. I am a heavy user, and I get an average use of 1-1 1/2 weeks use from an atomizer. Yes it does suck dropping 10-12 bucks a pop for one. I can justify that, considering my old cigarette habit would cost me $250.00 per month. I am very close to "figuring out" all of the scenarios on getting the best performance out of 901/4075 attys. It sometimes seems like an uphill battle.
As many on this forum will agree, "There is no perfect e cigarette".
As many on this forum will agree, "There is no perfect e cigarette".
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I didn't read all the posts so some one may have offered something similar. I smoked 2 packs a day. Almost $11.00 every day and it was most definitely going to kill me (if it hasn't already and I just don't know it yet) I've only been vaping for about a month. I got suckered by smoke 51 to the tune of $100 start up and $45 worth of catomizers trying to make due. Then bought a 510 for my wife (awesome so far)..........Well there is alot more to the story and I will spare you the agony of reading it but one month in I've got $300 give or take invested in learning the art of vaping. I would have spent at least that much on analogs anyway...and again on analogs the month after that...and so on. Once settled in on a 510 or a Jantystick it will take a lot of failure to = the $300 I would have spent on the "killers".
I guess I'm saying take a deep breath and now you know what to expect. Jump back in with open eyes and keep extra parts; because even with the failures its still probably cheaper and almost certainly not as unhealthy as the alternative.
I guess I'm saying take a deep breath and now you know what to expect. Jump back in with open eyes and keep extra parts; because even with the failures its still probably cheaper and almost certainly not as unhealthy as the alternative.
e-cigarettes are still a new technology, things will get better with time, ask someone who started vaping over a year ago, they didnt have many choices.
i smoked at least 1 pack analogs per day, 6 bux a pack. my math says i was paying 2200 bux a year on analogs. am i going to spend that much in a year of vaping, i hope not. but even if i did, it would be worth it, i like vaping better than smoking analogs, not so much when having equipment problems , but still. juice problem i keep enough stock that if i got some bad juice, or atomizer, it's only a couple days in the mail. dead battery, well even if they all went dead, i could always plug my pass into the puter. i think its called redundancy, always have a back-up to your back-up.
cigarette, ie; nicotine addiction is every bit as powerful addiction as any drug, herion, ......., alcohol, etc,etc. even though we quit analogs most of us are still nicotine addicts, thus we do what we have to , to get our fix. after watching friends and family die from illness's directly related to analog smoking emphzema, cancer, and copd which i have, also a dbl by-pass last year from analog smoking. i just figure it's worth it for me.
i smoked at least 1 pack analogs per day, 6 bux a pack. my math says i was paying 2200 bux a year on analogs. am i going to spend that much in a year of vaping, i hope not. but even if i did, it would be worth it, i like vaping better than smoking analogs, not so much when having equipment problems , but still. juice problem i keep enough stock that if i got some bad juice, or atomizer, it's only a couple days in the mail. dead battery, well even if they all went dead, i could always plug my pass into the puter. i think its called redundancy, always have a back-up to your back-up.
cigarette, ie; nicotine addiction is every bit as powerful addiction as any drug, herion, ......., alcohol, etc,etc. even though we quit analogs most of us are still nicotine addicts, thus we do what we have to , to get our fix. after watching friends and family die from illness's directly related to analog smoking emphzema, cancer, and copd which i have, also a dbl by-pass last year from analog smoking. i just figure it's worth it for me.
Tobacco companies are BANKING on the fact that nothing is (or will ever be) as easy and satisfying as smoking the cigarettes they sell.
I agree that to go the "e"-road is more difficult and takes more work and sometimes even more money, but there is something to be said about being mindful and deliberate when you are persuing your vice. Maybe it helps keep your consumption in check. Mindless, easy consumption of cigarettes in pursuit of feeding our nicotine addictions is making a lot of people very, very sick.
I agree that to go the "e"-road is more difficult and takes more work and sometimes even more money, but there is something to be said about being mindful and deliberate when you are persuing your vice. Maybe it helps keep your consumption in check. Mindless, easy consumption of cigarettes in pursuit of feeding our nicotine addictions is making a lot of people very, very sick.
yes it's the same size but according to the reviews it has a larger Atomizer and in addition it has holes built into the battery threading so it's not interchangeable with the 801
I believe Doris is calling me a sucker.
I take some offense to that.
Maybe I'll just go outside and have a few drags off my 510 electronic cigarette to make me feel better.
Perhpas I'll ponder how I no longer smoke Camel Lights anymore.
I wish she hadn't told me what a sucker I am.
I take some offense to that.
Maybe I'll just go outside and have a few drags off my 510 electronic cigarette to make me feel better.
Perhpas I'll ponder how I no longer smoke Camel Lights anymore.
I wish she hadn't told me what a sucker I am.
I'm telling people I know that e-cigs work well as a replacement for cigs, but are entirely unreliable...and are NOT LIKELY TO GET BETTER!! No company is going to invest in upgrading these products in a major way as long as a country as big as the US may soon ban them...it looks more that way all the time (and we all think about the possibility, right?) and by the time a factory got everything ready to roll a huge market share may vanish.
My best friend has just done the "quit smoking due to hospital stay" thing and I'd love to get him on ecigs, but he would never in his life have enough patience to play with all this iffy equipment all the time..which is why I can't strongly recommend it to anyone I know right now at all. I've had to build all my own power supplies to feel confident of my equipment...
My best friend has just done the "quit smoking due to hospital stay" thing and I'd love to get him on ecigs, but he would never in his life have enough patience to play with all this iffy equipment all the time..which is why I can't strongly recommend it to anyone I know right now at all. I've had to build all my own power supplies to feel confident of my equipment...
I'm guessing you don't have a 510 with a manual battery, right?
901..interestingly, I run 2 atty's with 2 flavors and clean them weekly, and I have not yet lost one...8 weeks now on the pair. However, I have a loverly pile of batteries piled up dead, and lost a pass-thru in two days as well..died as fast as the others..all due to the switches. Manual batts are out there now, I know, but another charger to buy as well..nope. I've made my own usb passes and flashlite mods, and I'm not investing any more...
True that the current customers may be guinea pigs for an immature product, but in the same way you are actively a part of developing better products! By buying early models from these companies, everyone helps fund development of new and hopefully more reliable product to market. This seems like it might be a concept worth sticking with, as the life saving potential is great. So maybe keep voting with that cash if you believe in it...
On the other hand one has to be careful of knock off companies utilizing a new market to quickly sell a cheap krap and take the money and run. Who are the more reputable developers, with dedication and potential?
On the other hand one has to be careful of knock off companies utilizing a new market to quickly sell a cheap krap and take the money and run. Who are the more reputable developers, with dedication and potential?
I would have given up and gone back to analogues if I hadn't made myself a mod, the batteries last for 2/3 days before they need recharging and they are standard cheap off the shelf 1.2 volt Nimah AA rechargeable's, so they won't be expensive to replace when I finally need to buy some new one's....... so the only thing left that gives me trouble now are the atomizers but thankfully I seem to have found out how to keep them lasting for a reasonable amount of time as well. Oh yes the cart filling and topping off is still a pain but I can live with that.
I think any e-cig the size of an analogue will always be far too much trouble because those little batteries just can't handle the kind of power drain required to heat up a coil hundreds of times a day.
I think any e-cig the size of an analogue will always be far too much trouble because those little batteries just can't handle the kind of power drain required to heat up a coil hundreds of times a day.
I feel your pain Doris. Like most of the e-cig vets have already told you, it does take some getting use to. No pain no gain... It takes some patients and this new tech is not for everyone. Many people have unrealistic expectation that the vaping is equal to analog. I am pretty sure that many have realized that vaping certainly is not same as analog.
Like you, I spent close to a grand in an attempt to master the art of vaping. I started with NPRO from Costco to DSE103, 084, 097, 801, 901, SMOORE M401~3, M201, JOYE tech 306, 306A, 302, and 510. WOW...
I've settled with 510 and slowed down on purchasing newer models until I am convinced that it will out perform 510. I am now looking into modified version such as screw driver or prodigy v1.
I get frustrated like you daily. I've realize that it will take some time to replace my 20+ years of daily pack a day habbit. I don't expect to suceed right away. Maybe mix it around with analog or two. It's gotta be better than analog alone. I still burn 1 or 2 analog a week when I get frustrated with my PV equipment. And of course I regret everytime I light it up due to it's bad smell, taste, and lack of vapor production... Good luck
Like you, I spent close to a grand in an attempt to master the art of vaping. I started with NPRO from Costco to DSE103, 084, 097, 801, 901, SMOORE M401~3, M201, JOYE tech 306, 306A, 302, and 510. WOW...
I've settled with 510 and slowed down on purchasing newer models until I am convinced that it will out perform 510. I am now looking into modified version such as screw driver or prodigy v1.
I get frustrated like you daily. I've realize that it will take some time to replace my 20+ years of daily pack a day habbit. I don't expect to suceed right away. Maybe mix it around with analog or two. It's gotta be better than analog alone. I still burn 1 or 2 analog a week when I get frustrated with my PV equipment. And of course I regret everytime I light it up due to it's bad smell, taste, and lack of vapor production... Good luck
I think a sense of proportion is needed here.
I get through about 15ml of juice a week - lets say £10 (UK money sorry)
I ws spending around £45-£50 per week on cigs. That leaves me £35-£40 week to buy batteries and atomisers before I'm even out of pocket. Even in my worse nightmares I can't believe I could get through more than one of each a week.
Nowadays I use an SD about 90% of the time, so batteries are much less of a cost (not had one go yet in nearly 3 months and they are £5 for 4).
My combined failures in 5+ months of 901 and SD use are 1 901 battery and 4 901/SD attys. (About £22 worth)
I get through about 15ml of juice a week - lets say £10 (UK money sorry)
I ws spending around £45-£50 per week on cigs. That leaves me £35-£40 week to buy batteries and atomisers before I'm even out of pocket. Even in my worse nightmares I can't believe I could get through more than one of each a week.
Nowadays I use an SD about 90% of the time, so batteries are much less of a cost (not had one go yet in nearly 3 months and they are £5 for 4).
My combined failures in 5+ months of 901 and SD use are 1 901 battery and 4 901/SD attys. (About £22 worth)
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