I think I'm finally ready to quit! (long)

[tanzmitpalmer]

I wonder how many people actually read that. I see an awful lot of people trying to suggest expensive gear to someone who has a limited income

Although I do wonder... klutziness and all... have you tried a lanyard? It's hard to drop something when it's wrapped 'round your neck. I don't know why I'm suggesting that, since it's probably already been addressed before, but... thinking aloud...

 

[grandmato5]

Unfortunately vaping isn't for everyone. It is a different experience then smoking and will never be the same thing.

Looks to me like you did a lot of research but you missed a few important points.

Not yet finding an ADV is normal. Yes, some people will get lucky but for most people finding an ADV doesnt happen for a long time and for quite a few people it never happens. Its not just about finding a flavor you love BUT your taste buds are still far from repaired from your years of smoking. Have you gone through vaper's tongue yet? Nothings going to taste good when that happens and for many people that happens more then once. Many find that they find a flavor they love for a few weeks and suddenly they no longer like it. I lost count a long time ago but I've easily tried 300 different vendor juices and out of all of those I've only ever ordered maybe 20 of them a second time. Some I didnt care for at all and others were ok just not what I'd want to spend more money on. When I stopped looking for that ADV the juice part of vaping got a lot easier.

Clumsy is Clumsy. Some people are just that way. If that is you then you are going to have to accept you are going to break things much more often then someone that rarely drops anything. Lanyards to hold your ecigs can be helpful and glass probably is a bad idea for you.

You're complaint of a "burnt taste and smell" and "not enough power to enable me to vape at a speed I would find acceptable to want to continue" indicate to me you are trying to vape the same way you smoked. vaping requires you to slow down and inhale differently. If you try to chain vape and take long draws constantly without giving your wick time to wick you will burn whatever juice delivery you are using and you will get your burnt taste and smell often.

I like the suggestion of going to a local vape meet to get some in person help and advice. Hope you can find one near you. Good Luck

 

[bfrie]

Not everyone enjoys the flavor of unflavored nic. And how will a Reo battery compartment fix any atomizer annoyances?



For a clearo that is made... where?

Also in China of course. What I was referring to is the fact that a good clearo does not taste burnt all the time It's either a) bad clearo b) bad liquid c) your doing it wrong or d) a combination of the aforementioned.

He mentioned ordering straight from china and waiting a month for new clearos to show up being a problem. My automatic assumption is he is ordering terrible clearos or is doing something horribly wrong. Both would be solved by marching over to that store and asking for help. I mean honestly there's a knowledge bank across the street and he chooses to remain ignorant just to spend $2-3 less to get it NOW.

Get either a kanger protank, evod, t3s, iclear30, or a box of boge cartos, walk over to that store and tell them you have no clue what your doing.

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[Lombaowski]

I tried a GreenSmoke three years ago and just quit 70 days ago. It's a process.

Get a good Carto tank as others have already said, here are some under $10 in many cases. The Artemas is a $9 tank that is just awesome with some good cartos

Basically $20 for the tank and the cartos which should last you maybe a month or more. There is a bit of a learning curve with fill but if you follow bad Attitude's blog post, it works great! 5ml of juice at a time, pretty inexpensive and a consistent vape (big clouds, TH, flavor, etc).

 

[bfrie]

I tried a GreenSmoke three years ago and just quit 70 days ago. It's a process.

Get a good Carto tank as others have already said, here are some under $10 in many cases. The Artemas is a $9 tank that is just awesome with some good cartos

Basically $20 for the tank and the cartos which should last you maybe a month or more. There is a bit of a learning curve with fill but if you follow bad Attitude's blog post, it works great! 5ml of juice at a time, pretty inexpensive and a consistent vape (big clouds, TH, flavor, etc).

To bad the artemas affects airflow

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[dirtbikemom]

I have only quit analogs for a month now but for how frustrati g vaping maybe sometimes its much better than killing myself at $10 a day!

 

[Lombaowski]

To bad the artemas affects airflow

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It does what now?

 

[Train2]

Well, I hope you don't give up - it sounds to me like it's HARDWARE TROUBLE.
MANY of us have gone through a fairly lengthy and expensive process of trying a lot of different equipment, and experiencing frustration when things don't work the way we hoped.
That explains why a lot of folks say things like "just get a Provari" - they're trying to be helpful, because they tried a dozen OTHER things before they were finally satisfied with a $200 setup - and they're trying to save you the in-between steps.
Me, I've got some other stuff, but I'm also still happy with a $12 knockoff EGO battery and a $6 (real) Kanger EVOD and $0.18/ml chinese juice (that's the extreme - I also buy Halo juice). And I know 1 of 4 coils for the EVOD will be hinky, and honestly I wouldn't buy more of those batteries, cause they were like 50/50. There's a quality problem at the low end for sure.

SO - if you CAN, and you WANT to - just change your mindset and timeframe and put yourself on a quest to find gear that you like!
You may have to save up and try something new when you can...
Just wanted you to know - the frustration with equipment is TOTALLY NORMAL - almost everyone here has been through it - and then FOUND something they liked!!

 

[kdubbie]

I'll share my experience ... Within my first month of vaping, I was going through a similar experience (although, probably not as bad) ... My equipment seemed to stop working, had some bad luck with buying juice online, and I was getting a lot of burnt tastes, I was like ...??. What a pain in the ... this all is. Really, the only thing that was keeping me from smoking was the fact that I was desperate to quit and realized that if I can find a way to make vaping easy, I will be happy.

So after trying a number of different setups, I decided, all this maintenance isn't worth it to me, I just need to keep it really simple. Do you know the term KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)? That helps me when I feel like things are getting confusing.

So basically I decided that all I am going to use is one glass carto tank and two glass clearomizers that both use protank heads. This makes buying replacements very easy. 5 pack of cartos are $7.50, and 5 pack of protank replacement coils are $7.50. I only use glass because I vape a lot of citrus flavors.

Personally, I have no desire to try every new device that comes out, nor do I want to get into rebuilding anything. I'm just too lazy. I believe that every device should work out of the box and want vaping to be as low maintenance as possible and much much cheaper than cigarettes. So Kanger protanks and Carto tanks are great for me because one protank had can last up to 2-4 weeks and one carto lasts me at least two weeks. As far as juice, I'm lucky to have a local B&M that sells great tasting juice at good prices.

My first month, I spent around $210 on vape gear, second month was around $115 and third month, so far only $50 dollars. I realized that as I became more experienced, the better things worked. Experience goes a long way.

Also, just an FYI on protank heads, they are very inconsistent, some of them are great and some of them are duds right out of the package. Just make sure that you prime them with e-liquid real good before starting to vape, if they still burn after that, I usually check the wicks and coil to see if there is anything out of the ordinary going on. If I can't fix the issue with a little bit of tinkering, I just throw it away. usually the next one works fine.

Thanks, hope you don't give it up. You'll get the hang of it ... If I can, you can

 

[stevegmu]

I wonder how many people actually read that. I see an awful lot of people trying to suggest expensive gear to someone who has a limited income

Although I do wonder... klutziness and all... have you tried a lanyard? It's hard to drop something when it's wrapped 'round your neck. I don't know why I'm suggesting that, since it's probably already been addressed before, but... thinking aloud...

I actually quit smoking with a Halo starter kit. Loved it and still use Halo gear 90% of the time. I actually think it is the best beginner kit on the market. Batteries charge fast, last a long time, clearo-tanks don't leak and are easy to fill and their juices taste great. They are also their own ecosystem, so one doesn't wonder what will go with what. For a limited budget, or for any vaper who wants an easy to use, hassle free setup, I'd recommend Halo Triton then.

I've also dropped my gear so many times the paint/coating is chipping on some of the batteries, so I know it is durable, as they still work.

 

[ScottP]

Unfortunately other than a lanyard or duct taping your device to your hand there is no cure for clumsiness. That said, there are devices out there than can take a beating. While, I don't have mine yet, I have heard the iTaste SVD can possibly be used as a hammer so it's durable and can be had from Fasttech for $37.21 including shipping ($67.21 if you need batteries and a charger, ask me and I can give you a list of what I ordered). If you like the vape of a Pro Tank but are worried about the glass breaking you can get a Tatroe tank. These things are 100% stainless steel. I don't know that you could get a more durable combination for any price. Maybe if you had something custom made out of oil drilling pipe or something. There are other all stainless steel toppers out there too.

The wife and I have been using EVOD's on little eGo 650mAH batteries and initially she had some minor leakage issues (I never did). We figured out part of her problem was sucking too hard causing more juice to fill the wicks than was possible to convert to vapor. I fixed this by removing the original flavor wicks on her heads and replacing it with a piece of washed, white, "Peaches & Creme" brand yarn from Wal-Mart. This reduced the juice getting to the coil fixing her problem. It also seemed to enhance the flavor a bit, so I have started doing this with mine as well. So if you are having leaking problems, you can try being more gentle with suction or adding a "flavor wick" to whatever you are using.

As far as juice flavors, it really is trial and error. If you can find a B&M nearby maybe you can go sample some flavors to figure out what you like best. Many sites offer sample packs and my favorite supplier (Mt Baker Vapor) is so cheap you don't mind trying a few flavors at $5 for 15ml. I have found some i like and many I didn't really care for.

I do wish you luck in whatever you decide to do.

 

[Maniacal]

Find a good juice maker- like Halo. Get a ProVari and Tatroe tank with Tatroe base. Everything but the coil-head in that set-up is made in the USA. That set-up is also basically indestructible.

Holy smokes, I had no idea I had the option to buy a Provari tank. I figured it couldn't actually work on an ego, and if they DID make them & I couldn't afford such a thing. I just looked that up ... it's only $35. If someone told me that I could take wretched plastic burnt taste/smell clearos out of the equation, heck even if they told me it would REDUCE my stress ... I might not have even posted this. The other problems are minuscule in comparison. But those little annoyances do add up.

Thanks, mate.

 

[Maniacal]

Vaping can be a pain to some extent, but i think what you need is to find someone with experience to help you out in person. Are there any vape meets in your area?

Actually, yes. I'm probably one of the luckiest vapers here since I live in Chicago. I joined the Windy City Vapors Club before I even got my first kit, I was so excited abt all this. I didn't know at the time that they would be meeting in Roselle IL. Uhmm .. that's NOT Chicago. I of course missed the monthly meet, there's no way I can take a bus out to the suburbs, they don't have bus systems that take you out there. I talked to one of the members who owns the vape store closest to me, and I asked "what's up with that?" She said she also expressed her disapproval abt this location and had actually mentioned having a meet IN Chicago (wow, can u just IMAGINE her making such an outlandish suggestion? lol). If they do, I'd like to attend sometime. Until then I'm the only person I know in this are that vape. There's the really nice owners at the shop but ... they look at me like I'm ignorant (I am, obviously). They've stated "let them know if I have any problems" after I come in to buy something but you can definitely tell they aren't exactly willing to hold MY head above the water. The suggestion, if u can call it that, was made as a polite closing of the sale, a strictly business type of thing probably meaning to let them know if whatever I bought from them is working out.

I'm still looking. I need someones help. Maybe I'll just eat the $100 round trip taxi ride to the next vape meet, I dunno. Not a lot of ppl use cars in Chicago.

 

[bnrkwest]

You may want to keep some disposables around to grab when you want easy I use disposable Flings now to take in my purse so I always something easy to grab when I want. No hassle, just vape it I like their zero menthol, iced berry and vanilla flavor, you can also add more juice to the cartos if you want, I do to make them last longer and add a bit more flavor, the vanilla is a bit light. Good luck to you! bnrk

 

[thinkingaboutit]

I'm still looking. I need someones help. Maybe I'll just eat the $100 round trip taxi ride to the next vape meet, I dunno. Not a lot of ppl use cars in Chicago.

Or, find someone to ride share with? Not the guy with the chainsaw that says "...oh...Vape meet, I mis heard you".

 

[Mr.Mann]

You may want to keep some disposables around to grab when you want easy I use disposable Flings now to take in my purse so I always something easy to grab when I want. No hassle, just vape it I like their zero menthol, iced berry and vanilla flavor, you can also add more juice to the cartos if you want, I do to make them last longer and add a bit more flavor, the vanilla is a bit light. Good luck to you! bnrk

^^^This!!!!^^^

I would recommend, as I alluded to last night, getting some easy gear from Smokeless Image or some place like that (unitl you get on you feet financially and information wise). A couple years ago Smokeless Image saved me, for real!

 

[Maniacal]

Or, find someone to ride share with? Not the guy with the chainsaw that says "...oh...Vape meet, I mis heard you".

ROTFFL!! Yesh, yesh, we did need some comic relief around here, thanks for taking on that task. I think when I meet some people that live around me on the south side that may just be an option. I am thinking we might have a lil' more luck getting them to move the meets around the area, to be fair. The lady at the vape shop said she's been mentioning it and that it's definitely a possibility. She's even pushing for next month, which is obviously ideal The way I see it though, I cant really *afford* to miss another one. Second saturday of every month so there's time to figure something out... U know, before I get desperate enough to take a ride with the creepy "vapist" 8-o

 

[supermarket]

Vaping. I am ready to quit vaping. I wanted to spare u guys drama of it all, but I've been holding this in for days now & feel like ... this is probably my last attempt. I just .. dont know wtd at this point.

A few of u have had the pleasure (ha!) of reading abt the many bizarre issues I've gone thru in just this short time. I am trying so hard 2 make it work. All these F'd up experiences keep happening and many are financial. When I decided to do this I read so extensively abt all things vape related that I felt sorry for all the newbs who were posting abt how hard of a time they were having w/whatever it was at that time, such as:"how do u build a MOD? "what size connection is this?" "My throat fell out & I can't vape ..."" or whatever problem. I thought I was so much more prepared than most, and I was really confident & excited abt this whole vaping prospect. After it arrived, the whole sky came crumbling down.

This is probably the issue that infuriates/disgusts me the most .. that BURNT taste/smell!! I mean, it has turned me off SO much that it has pushed me to the point I'm at right now. I've read those threads that have basically EVERY solution to this god awful taste/smell. I have tried almost everything (Not coke, figured what are the odds of that being the only magic solution). Sometimes I get them to work better w/trial and error, but pretty often they're just done. All that time wasted, all that money spent, all the videos/reading only to frustrate me even worse, so I get upset & go through all that stress .. for what? Its still broken, good job Ash! I still haven't found my ADV. Everything was sooo nasty, and ALL of the vendors seemed to use the same or similar ingredient so I was starting to think that I just did not enjoy vaping at all. Thankfully, just as I was abt to throw in the towel I found something that was not disgusting. In fact, there are only TWO liquids that I can tolerate at this point, but at the same time finding that I actually could enjoy this .. it was enough to keep trying.

My voltage on my battery could be higher, abt 90% of the time I'm feeling like its not enough. Of anything. Not enough vapor, not enough flavor, sub-par TH, & not nearly enough power to enable me to vape at a speed that I would find acceptable enough to want to continue this journey(I do know that not all of these issues are completely battery related). I keep losing it. I drop them all the time (one time I was crossin the street& it fell, but I couldn't run out in the street at that moment, so as I was waiting for traffic to die.. a huge semi truck ran over my poor little Spinner. Can u believe it still worked?) I am so clumsy that I've broken 2 batteries & 4 or 5 clearos. In a month! I knew it would be quit a chore to tweak my setup & find the right vendor/liquid, so I bought a ton of various clearos. Its costly in the beginning, I know that, but .. u have no idea how much this unemployed maniac has spent so far, just trying to make it all work & every aspect/every piece of the equation comes together in perfect harmony. As u can imagine, everything but juice is bought from China. So if I break all of my 11 clearos (just murdered the last one just now, woo!) I either have to wait up to a month for replacements or go to the highly priced vape shop nearest me. I watched a plethora of tutorials, and being that I do very well at (and enjoy) tinkering & disecting/re-assembling gadgets, I wasn't intimidated. But mates, lemme tell u, it gets OLD. FAST. I mean, how many solutions are there for each individual problem? I'll tell u, its WAAY too many for me to have to troubleshoot EVERY damn time I want to vape! I can't do this, I'm so tired.

I've been smoking again. I haven't wanted any in so long, but the stress and the EASE of getting my fix the easy/fast way has become appealing. Oddly enough, this post doesn't include that many descriptions/details of my malfunctions, if anyone wants details on what specific problems I'm having jusk ask, message me, however you'd like. Maybe someone can adopt me as their intern and dedicate their entire lives to helping me with my vaping. It would probably take that long, too.

Thanks for reading

Keep it simple. Simple is better.

Ego Twist battery

Then find which delivery device you enjoy the most:

pro tank
evod
carto tank
or cartos

All viable options, all VERY much a part of preference

 

[Maniacal]

There's a LOT to respond to, so I know I've missed things. There are amazing ppl here and as a result, some amazing advice. Thanks guys, the next rounds on me. Just to "put it out there", I woke up to 2 clearos I couldnt get to work had magically rejuvenated themselves. I also was rewarded with my mans X8 tank responding positively to my work from last night so ... these things helped the stress of it all, bring it down a few levels. I'm just going to try to focus here, keep my eye on the prize, so to speak.

..i think what you need is to find someone with experience to help you out in person. Are there any vape meets in your area?

Sure are, but right now they hold them in the suburbs where I can't get to since their transit system doesn't connect with Chicago proper. We're working on moving it around so as to be fair to all the members. It is the *Windy City*vapors club, afterall!

Get a ProVari and Tatroe tank with Tatroe base. Everything but the coil-head in that set-up is made in the USA. That set-up is also basically indestructible.

Indestructable is precisely what I need! I didn't think I could find anything of quality that I couldn't destroy without it costing a fortune. I'll check it out!

...people seem reluctant to spend money on vaping gear, always looking for the cheapest route and the best bargain, never weighing in the cost versus performance aspect. sure its expensive to get good gear. but you only buy it once, and it works yet in many case the most frugal vapors are the ones who had no problem buying 2 packs of smokes a day.

Not so much "reluctant" but .. broke? lol! Part of the reason I have no time these days is the excessive amount of time I spend researching products, figuring out what I need, if I can afford it, and if so whose got the best price. I do this bcuz .. well, I'm broke. I cant afford to make THAT big of a mistake. I'm in a delicate position. And as odd as this might sound, money wasn't really much of a factor in this decision. I made my own smokes, it only cost me $42 a week to keep that up.

So... is this a rage quit? A soft quit? Is this a cry for help? You get out of vaping what you

put into it. If it's not for you, it's not for you. Sorry you've come to this conclusion.

What this is .. is me looking for help/advice/support at a crucial time. If I got out of it what I put into it then I should be ELATED from all the wonderful things that vaping has given to me due to all of my blood sweat & tears. I have no life these days & I'm not exaggurating either. I spend most, if not all of my free time doing things vape related; research(that ones a killer), browsing, organizing, learning, practicing, watching tutorials, tinkering, etc. I'm sure in the long run it'll be rewarding but until then.. yep. And I never said I came to any "conclusion", tho I *did* say that I was giving it one last shot (or something like that, cant remember how I worded it)

I don't know anything about it but I googled and found the Windy City Vapors Club...
...Are you using high VG juice? Also, have you tried a dripping atty?

You are incredibly sweet for taking time looking that up for me. Although I am a member. The problem is the meets are too far & there's no way to get there at this time. I hope to meet some ppl soon to share a ride with. Some members have mentioned moving the meets around so as to be fair to everyone. The highest VG% in any of my juices was 50/50. I dripped when I first started but the atty didn't make it a day b4 it started w/the burnt smell, & believe me, I tried & tried to suck it all out, salvage my only atty. I enjoyed it. I'd like to learn more abt them so I don't murder them on the first date, LOL!

So you buy your clearos from china and wonder why they are broken/burnt tasting? Why don't you go to that store across the street, spend a few extra dollars for a good clearo, have them show you how to make it work, then have a sigh of relief as you take a vape. The fact of the matter is if it tastes burnt your doing something wrong. Period.

Eh, not exactly. The only thing I'm wondering abt is why so many people advised me to go to fasttech if their products are sub-par. Of course I know abt cheap knockoffs. My logic is sound; MANY veteran vapers (that know a thing or two & have proven it agn & agn) warn me abt cheap stuffs yet mention not all chinese stuffs are bad, then recommend fasttech. Almost everyone here goes to Fasttech! I'll tell u the reason I dont go down to the shop to buy legit stuffs .. its overpriced like u wouldn't believe! If I was doing everything right I wouldnt be posting this, I'm looking for where I went wrong & started here for suggestions. Period.

.. a simple Boge cartomizer can at least get you up and running--it may not be the best thing, but it's far from the worst!

Hmm ...I have heard of this .. "Boge" u speak of. Good things. I'm definitely picking up what you're puttin' down, mate.

I wonder how many people actually read that. I see an awful lot of people trying to suggest expensive gear to someone who has a limited income
...have you tried a lanyard?

I honestly appreciate that u actually read all of that. I knew it would be lengthy & most ppl wouldnt wanna bother, which is why I put "(long)" in the thread title so that ppl who dont like to really get into that kinda stuff are forewarned. You're right, I have tried a lanyard, & despite how certain I was that I needed one it didnt work out in the slightest bit, lol! Remember that story I told abt the semi? Yeah, u guessed it .. it came out of the lanyard. I dont know why the leather pouch-like types are sooo darn awkward! The length is waaay off, all of them tilt almost entirely horizontal & it just slides right out w/ease. I opted for this type thinking the other type (with the metal ring) wouldnt be secure enough. Funny how that worked, huh?

... Have you gone through vaper's tongue yet? ...You're complaint of a "burnt taste and smell" and "not enough power to enable me to vape at a speed I would find acceptable to want to continue" indicate to me you are trying to vape the same way you smoked

I'm not sure how it feels or tastes or ... what exactly goes on when ppl experience "vapers tongue". So I'm thinking I might not? I know now that u cant vape as quickly as u smoked, at least not w/my gear. This is a huge problem for me right now, I try as hard as I can but I guess I cant deny it any longer .. I think I wouldnt be satisfied under these circumstances. At least not right NOW, during the hardest part where I reeeally need this to satisfy my cravings if I'm going to quit smoking. I was hoping there would be some advice to conquer this issue. Aside from the obvious "why dont u use several batteries?" I do, of course. If thats the only solution then I can work with that, but arent u able to take faster draws when u use higher quality gadgets and such?

...He mentioned ordering straight from china and waiting a month

for new clearos to show up being a problem. My automatic

assumption is he is ordering terrible clearos or is doing

something horribly wrong. Both would be solved by marching ++

over to that store and asking for help. I mean honestly

there's a knowledge bank across the street and he chooses to

remain ignorant just to spend $2-3 less to get it NOW.

Get either a kanger protank, evod, t3s, iclear30, or a box of

boge cartos, walk over to that store and tell them you have no

clue what your doing.

*She, dear I am a she. C'mon now
Well, u were off by more than just that. I am certainly not going to "march" into anywhere, thats not cool. You've made some assumptions here and thats not exactly fair to me. How do you know I haven't gone in there to ask for help? "Ignorance" is not the proper term for someone who is trying to *learn*.What am I doing here, trying not to? If searching for answers to gain knowledge is the definition of ignorance then I hate to break it to ya but u are the opposite of correct. That dig really wasn't called for. Did u know how much of a price difference there was between what I got overseas & the little vape shop before u implied that I was being "cheap" by trying to "save 2 or 3 bucks"? Then perhaps I should clarify; I paid $1.65 per clearo versus $8 a pop. I bought 11, so that alone makes it $88 versus $18.15, a difference of $69.85. Thats not being "cheap" thats being responsible. Lastly, why would I tell the vape shop that I have no idea whats going on? You didn't read very carefully (maybe not at all?) , not that u would have to search very hard.

... Get a good Carto tank as others have already said,
... ... 5ml of juice at a time, pretty inexpensive and a

consistent vape (big clouds, TH, flavor, etc).

That sounds really nice, thanks for the links

I'll share my experience ... ...So basically I decided that all I am going to use is one glass carto tank and two glass clearomizers that both use protank heads. This makes buying replacements very easy. 5 pack of cartos are $7.50, and 5 pack of protank replacement coils are $7.50 ...

Thank you for sharing your story, it does sound strangely familiar, haha. Thats one of the best reasons to be here is that u feel like a lot of ppl understand what you're going thru and it feels comforting.
I haven't done a lot of research on cartos because I didnt think that would be the best choice at that time. You've kind of just nudged me to refresh my carto facts & what not.

... there are devices out there than can take a beating. While, I don't have mine yet, I have heard the iTaste SVD can possibly be used as a hammer so it's durable and can be had from Fasttech for $37.21 including shipping ... ... The wife and I have been using EVOD's on little eGo 650mAH ...

The iTaste was one of my first few contenders, so I think thats probably the closest I can get to what I need that is affordable.
Ohhh, yes, yes .. the Evod The only gadget, equipment, etc, that I have now that I bought when I started is my precious 'ol reliable. And now I have these 5 other ... imposters! Its probably some competing company that put out these replicas, trying to smear their name. Hehehe

 

[bfrie]

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to come off offensive in saying this, it's clearly constructive criticism, but if you're getting a horrid burnt taste it's either because you are buying terrible clearos (ce4's, anything on fasttech) or you are doing something wrong. I mentioned going to the shop because by spending 8 bucks on What is most likely a far superior clearo to a fasttech one vs buying 11 bunk fasttech ones is a no brainer, plus the bonus of hands on teaching on setting it up. Who knows, maybe you truly are doing something terribly wrong and you don't even know it. Sorry about the he thing

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