I tried, good luck to all you vaporers :)
- Thread starter ED-209
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Ditto on the atomic cinnacide. You could also try the teaberry, it is quite strong and tasty. Peppermint and cherry mixed together is pretty strong too. However if you are doing good being off anything, why fix what "ain't broke". Rootin' for ya !
Thanks so much everyone for the advice. I think I am going to give it another try with a higher volt mod but not sure which is the best or what I should start with, the Prodigy, the Silver Bullet, the GG something, the Chuck?
Puresmoker has a clearance on the 5V Prodigy V2, would that be the best and most inexpensive place to start as the reviews seem very good about this device?
I was a pack a day smoker using Marlboro Lights, what Mg would be best to use?
Thanks again everyone, I can't begin to thank everyone for the help...
Puresmoker has a clearance on the 5V Prodigy V2, would that be the best and most inexpensive place to start as the reviews seem very good about this device?
I was a pack a day smoker using Marlboro Lights, what Mg would be best to use?
Thanks again everyone, I can't begin to thank everyone for the help...
I was a pack a day smoker too. I did not quit before starting to vape but I can tell you that it takes 24 mg juice to take the craving for nicotine away.
I had quite a journey trying to find juice that tasted like my cigs did and I found the best so far at the link below. My son smoked Matlboro Lights and he is smoking the 18 mg Marlboro juice from the same place that I get my juice. He said it is very much like the Matlboros. Good Vapor and throat hit too and very fast shipping.
I have heard that the ego is the latest and greatest and Puresmoker has them for $49.99. I am using my KR808-D and loving it. I did get the extra long manual batteries from Vapor4Life and they really are more powerful and stay charged longer giving lots more vapor. V4L is having a 22% off sale right now with code BeatTheHeat if you are interested.
Here is where I get my nicotine flavored juice
Tobacco Flavors
Good luck and please let us know how you make out.
I had quite a journey trying to find juice that tasted like my cigs did and I found the best so far at the link below. My son smoked Matlboro Lights and he is smoking the 18 mg Marlboro juice from the same place that I get my juice. He said it is very much like the Matlboros. Good Vapor and throat hit too and very fast shipping.
I have heard that the ego is the latest and greatest and Puresmoker has them for $49.99. I am using my KR808-D and loving it. I did get the extra long manual batteries from Vapor4Life and they really are more powerful and stay charged longer giving lots more vapor. V4L is having a 22% off sale right now with code BeatTheHeat if you are interested.
Here is where I get my nicotine flavored juice
Tobacco Flavors
Good luck and please let us know how you make out.
Don't give up!!!!
sorry this kind of grew....
I was also a pack a day Marlborough Light smoker.... for over 30 years…
I had been using standard 510s for several months and was on and off.. they just didn't do it for me and after a few days i kept going back to analogs. I picked up an eGo from puresmoker and it made a big difference- especially once I switched to LR attys (which aren't recommended with standard 510 batteries).
You should know that eGo/Tornado runs at an effective voltage of about 3.1V which nets out a noticeable power difference from the true 3.7V mods.
The same time I got my eGo, I also picked up a Prodigy V3 that I run with an HV atty at 6v and an LR atty at 3.7V.. The 6v setup with a standard atty seems to burn up most of the flavors i normally use, but it does work well with the few tobacco flavored juices I have. Some folks swear by 6V with a standard atty...
By the sounds of it, you need to jack up your power some and while the eGo with an LR atty may do the trick for you it barely qualifys as an HV setup (with an LR atty) .... something like a Prodigy V3 has more flexibility and at 6v with a standard atty, it will knock your socks off ....
IMO, Having both the eGo and the Prodigy V3, if portability isn't your primary concern, I'd say go with the Prodigy (or similar mod) over the eGo and pick up a few attys to cover LR, standard, and HR at different voltages... You will want different batteries (which need different chargers) to cover 3.7 and 6v... be aware it's a hefty chunk of metal compared to the eGo. That said, you're looking at about $175 before you're done... don't get me wrong, the eGo is great and I switch back and forth between it and the Prodigy, but the eGo is nowhere near as powerful or flexible.
Once you get into that turf you should also consider looking at the GG, the Buzz Varivolt, and the Precious L ( new variable version- I'm looking at one for my next device)... the variable voltages box mods (there are a few) might also be an option for you but they aren't really any cheaper. Since you said you are a gadget guy I think the variable voltage devices might really interest you …..
The key is to dial in a voltage/atty/juice combination that works for you and having a device that has flexible configurations will allow you to do that best...
Regarding juice- I’ve been getting along with 12-18mg juice from nhaler just fine… I’ve been using a lot of nhaler juice and like most of it, but I am now also buying from VaporBomb. There have been lots of write-ups on VaporBomb in the last few weeks- nice thing is they customize your nic and PG/VG ratios for you.. check out their Smoke Shop offerings and CinaBomb. Get the smallest sizes and an assortment of flavors- you might want to stick with zero nic and buy some unfavored nic to dial in your nic level...
Best wishes and let us know how you make out….
-Jim
sorry this kind of grew....
I was also a pack a day Marlborough Light smoker.... for over 30 years…
I had been using standard 510s for several months and was on and off.. they just didn't do it for me and after a few days i kept going back to analogs. I picked up an eGo from puresmoker and it made a big difference- especially once I switched to LR attys (which aren't recommended with standard 510 batteries).
You should know that eGo/Tornado runs at an effective voltage of about 3.1V which nets out a noticeable power difference from the true 3.7V mods.
The same time I got my eGo, I also picked up a Prodigy V3 that I run with an HV atty at 6v and an LR atty at 3.7V.. The 6v setup with a standard atty seems to burn up most of the flavors i normally use, but it does work well with the few tobacco flavored juices I have. Some folks swear by 6V with a standard atty...
By the sounds of it, you need to jack up your power some and while the eGo with an LR atty may do the trick for you it barely qualifys as an HV setup (with an LR atty) .... something like a Prodigy V3 has more flexibility and at 6v with a standard atty, it will knock your socks off ....
IMO, Having both the eGo and the Prodigy V3, if portability isn't your primary concern, I'd say go with the Prodigy (or similar mod) over the eGo and pick up a few attys to cover LR, standard, and HR at different voltages... You will want different batteries (which need different chargers) to cover 3.7 and 6v... be aware it's a hefty chunk of metal compared to the eGo. That said, you're looking at about $175 before you're done... don't get me wrong, the eGo is great and I switch back and forth between it and the Prodigy, but the eGo is nowhere near as powerful or flexible.
Once you get into that turf you should also consider looking at the GG, the Buzz Varivolt, and the Precious L ( new variable version- I'm looking at one for my next device)... the variable voltages box mods (there are a few) might also be an option for you but they aren't really any cheaper. Since you said you are a gadget guy I think the variable voltage devices might really interest you …..
The key is to dial in a voltage/atty/juice combination that works for you and having a device that has flexible configurations will allow you to do that best...
Regarding juice- I’ve been getting along with 12-18mg juice from nhaler just fine… I’ve been using a lot of nhaler juice and like most of it, but I am now also buying from VaporBomb. There have been lots of write-ups on VaporBomb in the last few weeks- nice thing is they customize your nic and PG/VG ratios for you.. check out their Smoke Shop offerings and CinaBomb. Get the smallest sizes and an assortment of flavors- you might want to stick with zero nic and buy some unfavored nic to dial in your nic level...
Best wishes and let us know how you make out….
-Jim
Last edited:
All you need is a HV device!!!Well I finally got my KR808 kit in with my no nic juice from V4L this past Saturday. I got some of the premium, some of the VG only as well as some of the WOW juice as well as some samples they sent for free, thanks V4L.
Just a quick background, I smoked for 17 years and quit 8 weeks ago and that is the reason I didn't want to go back to nicotine but just felt that using a PV would satisfy this itch I have that makes me feel like something is missing. Believe me that I am done with analogs and this was my only desperate chance at feeling like I used to.
Anyhow, like everyone said in the numerous posts I have read, there was no throat itIt felt just like air with all of the different kinds of juices but I was hoping there would be some since it has been almost 2 months since I smoked regular analogs but no luck. I tried both methods which consisted of dragging in my mouth then inhaling as well as direct inhaling and no real TH
from what I can tell and from the descriptions I read
So I just wanted to thank everyone's help on this forum and wish all of you good luck, I was so excited that I might have found something I could really get into that was similar to my previous habit as well as all the flavors and gadgets but I guess it wasn't meant to be.
Take care and vape on everyone!
Problem solved!!!
From V4L, I found their Dunhall flavor to be pretty good TH, though I'm not sure what it's like at low/no nic level.
I have to say, before you go and buy a chuck or something else that is costly, you may want to try a simple cheap box mod at a higher voltage.
Mad vapes has them or kens box mods.
Voltage is still voltage no matter how you package it.
As for th at no nic and vg , there will not me much no matter how much voltage in my opinion (others vary LOL)
However, what makes you think you are allergic to pg? You do know that it is in your bath soap, shampoo, even food you eat?
The rash you described as like a mesqueto bit , could be just a mesqueto bite even indoors.
I am allergic to almost everything outdoors and some in , including animals. I have had to problem with vg or pg.
That is not to say you couldn't be allergic, but it is rare for someone to be . That is why they even pump pg into the air in some hospitals now. For the purpose of reducing airborn bacteria .
Mad vapes has them or kens box mods.
Voltage is still voltage no matter how you package it.
As for th at no nic and vg , there will not me much no matter how much voltage in my opinion (others vary LOL)
However, what makes you think you are allergic to pg? You do know that it is in your bath soap, shampoo, even food you eat?
The rash you described as like a mesqueto bit , could be just a mesqueto bite even indoors.
I am allergic to almost everything outdoors and some in , including animals. I have had to problem with vg or pg.
That is not to say you couldn't be allergic, but it is rare for someone to be . That is why they even pump pg into the air in some hospitals now. For the purpose of reducing airborn bacteria .
Just my 2 cents.
When I was reading/researching and getting ready to order to get started in vaping, I started getting all concerned about TH, vapor production, flavor, modding carts....all those things that those who have been vaping for awhile developed a taste or concern for.
Once I got my kit, I just slapped the carts on and started using. I was alot more comforting and enjoyable to me not to worry about all the things I had read about and seen discussed.
Made it a pleasant start for a beginner. Another thing is that I was really concerned about vaping being as close to smoking as possible since I was looking at it as a replacement.
Well once I got started, I realized it was better, for me, that it was not completely the same, that it was different. It made it easier for me to transition off and stay off.
Maybe just some things to consider. In the same respect what works one may not work for another.
When I was reading/researching and getting ready to order to get started in vaping, I started getting all concerned about TH, vapor production, flavor, modding carts....all those things that those who have been vaping for awhile developed a taste or concern for.
Once I got my kit, I just slapped the carts on and started using. I was alot more comforting and enjoyable to me not to worry about all the things I had read about and seen discussed.
Made it a pleasant start for a beginner. Another thing is that I was really concerned about vaping being as close to smoking as possible since I was looking at it as a replacement.
Well once I got started, I realized it was better, for me, that it was not completely the same, that it was different. It made it easier for me to transition off and stay off.
Maybe just some things to consider. In the same respect what works one may not work for another.
Ed,
You need a high-voltage mod, don't even think about getting anything less, as you have proved that's what you need. You are looking at 5v or 6 volts.
The quickest / cheapest way to do that is get a Ken's Boxmod, from:
boxmods.net
Box Mod
- choose 5 volt - 510 in the field when ordering. His delivery is quick compared to other custom built mods and it's about the cheapest as well @ $35. Also there is the Bartleby 5 volt, a very similar device.
These are small-format boxmods that use the 510 system and 2 x 14500 batteries. The boxmods come as just that - a box - so you'll also need:
several 510 standard atomizers
several 510 cartridges
2 sets (ie 4 in total) of 14500 protected rechargeables (eg Trustfire TR 14500)
a charger for above
several liquids to try
As far as allergies go, I'd forget about that. Your body takes 6 months to get over tobacco smoking and people exhibit all sorts of symptoms during that time, especially in the first two or three months. If you have a PG allergy then one of the main symptoms is your lungs being very irritated at the top while inhaling PG. In that case go to VG - simple as that.
Then, you must choose your liquid for TH, and there has been much good advice here on that. Just add strong flavors like cinnamon, menthol, caramel. Adding alcohol should only be done after all else fails as it can burn up attys on high voltage. You won't fail though, even with VG-only and zero-nic there are flavors that will hit.
Get a Ken's Boxmod 5v or a Bartleby 5v - job done. If you can spend more then do so - but it's not strictly necessary.
You need a high-voltage mod, don't even think about getting anything less, as you have proved that's what you need. You are looking at 5v or 6 volts.
The quickest / cheapest way to do that is get a Ken's Boxmod, from:
boxmods.net
Box Mod
- choose 5 volt - 510 in the field when ordering. His delivery is quick compared to other custom built mods and it's about the cheapest as well @ $35. Also there is the Bartleby 5 volt, a very similar device.
These are small-format boxmods that use the 510 system and 2 x 14500 batteries. The boxmods come as just that - a box - so you'll also need:
several 510 standard atomizers
several 510 cartridges
2 sets (ie 4 in total) of 14500 protected rechargeables (eg Trustfire TR 14500)
a charger for above
several liquids to try
As far as allergies go, I'd forget about that. Your body takes 6 months to get over tobacco smoking and people exhibit all sorts of symptoms during that time, especially in the first two or three months. If you have a PG allergy then one of the main symptoms is your lungs being very irritated at the top while inhaling PG. In that case go to VG - simple as that.
Then, you must choose your liquid for TH, and there has been much good advice here on that. Just add strong flavors like cinnamon, menthol, caramel. Adding alcohol should only be done after all else fails as it can burn up attys on high voltage. You won't fail though, even with VG-only and zero-nic there are flavors that will hit.
Get a Ken's Boxmod 5v or a Bartleby 5v - job done. If you can spend more then do so - but it's not strictly necessary.
if your guru is Allan Carr you are a believer, not a pseudoscience ecig enthusiast, and as Tropical Bob once said "NRT is a way back to smoking" and ecig is an unrecognized version of NRT with "hand to mouth" compensation included, and NRT has proven to not be very effective, it is only still around because Mega Corporations are making billions from it.
In effect, if ecigs or other NRT systems work for an individual then they could have quit cigarettes by just gradually cutting down on their cigarettes..
I would advise you to stay with Allan Carr and avoid this crowd like the plague!
Me? I am not much of a believer and i love these unproven science fiction gadgets a lot so i buy this stuff with a hope that i will break even while having fun with them. BTW i am bipolar and a little crazy some people say, and i have cut my cigarette consumption down from 40 a day to about 5 a day so my lungs thank me
Good Luck
James
====================
July 20 smoked 00 cigs, 40 less than my usual 40 cigs a day 2723 cigarettes not smoked in 78 days by using Stonewall, Joye 510, Hello 016, Ken's BoxMod, MadVapes 2xAA Box Mod, WetBox Vaporizer (ecig) and 19 bottles of ejuice partially used , $0.28 per cig X 2723 Cigs = $762.44 diverted from cigarettes to Vaporizer (ecig). OMG I have spent over $1671.51 in 74 days on this stuff but bare in mind that my old cigarette cost was $330 a month and i have $790 in supplies so $880 in hardware and consumed ejuice
In effect, if ecigs or other NRT systems work for an individual then they could have quit cigarettes by just gradually cutting down on their cigarettes..
I would advise you to stay with Allan Carr and avoid this crowd like the plague!
Me? I am not much of a believer and i love these unproven science fiction gadgets a lot so i buy this stuff with a hope that i will break even while having fun with them. BTW i am bipolar and a little crazy some people say, and i have cut my cigarette consumption down from 40 a day to about 5 a day so my lungs thank me
Good Luck
James
====================
July 20 smoked 00 cigs, 40 less than my usual 40 cigs a day 2723 cigarettes not smoked in 78 days by using Stonewall, Joye 510, Hello 016, Ken's BoxMod, MadVapes 2xAA Box Mod, WetBox Vaporizer (ecig) and 19 bottles of ejuice partially used , $0.28 per cig X 2723 Cigs = $762.44 diverted from cigarettes to Vaporizer (ecig). OMG I have spent over $1671.51 in 74 days on this stuff but bare in mind that my old cigarette cost was $330 a month and i have $790 in supplies so $880 in hardware and consumed ejuice
Well thanks again everyone for the advice.
I think I finally discovered what the issue was and it was the nicotine. There was a local shop around here that was actually selling PV kits and on top of that they were selling the Riva. It was a little more than online but I had to see if that was the case and it was.
Yes I know I should have stayed away but ever since stopping analogs I just haven't been right, even with using other methods. After further looking into effects of nicotine it makes sense why I wasn't the same due to its stimulating effects. I could be wrong but I do believe there are a lot more ingredients at play when it comes to regular analogs and the reason I say this is that when I took some vapes I had the TH and it did remind me of my old analog days but it was weird as afterwords or about an hour or two later it wasn't like it was when I smoked as I wasn't like ok I have to smoke now or something but it was more like I have something now that is healthier that gives me that feeling of normalcy.
I know it sounds like I am making excuses and such but I can assure you I will not go back to analogs ever, as I just don't like anything about them, ie smoke, smell, stains, etc.
Thanks again everyone, I think I will now try maybe a different flavor and maybe a low resist atty to mimic the high volts to see what all the fuss is about before I even think about buying one of those goliaths.
Take care and happy vaping,
I think I finally discovered what the issue was and it was the nicotine. There was a local shop around here that was actually selling PV kits and on top of that they were selling the Riva. It was a little more than online but I had to see if that was the case and it was.
Yes I know I should have stayed away but ever since stopping analogs I just haven't been right, even with using other methods. After further looking into effects of nicotine it makes sense why I wasn't the same due to its stimulating effects. I could be wrong but I do believe there are a lot more ingredients at play when it comes to regular analogs and the reason I say this is that when I took some vapes I had the TH and it did remind me of my old analog days but it was weird as afterwords or about an hour or two later it wasn't like it was when I smoked as I wasn't like ok I have to smoke now or something but it was more like I have something now that is healthier that gives me that feeling of normalcy.
I know it sounds like I am making excuses and such but I can assure you I will not go back to analogs ever, as I just don't like anything about them, ie smoke, smell, stains, etc.
Thanks again everyone, I think I will now try maybe a different flavor and maybe a low resist atty to mimic the high volts to see what all the fuss is about before I even think about buying one of those goliaths.
Take care and happy vaping,
I didn't read the whole thread, but if no one has mentioned it, there's a guy on here who swears by SNUS .. because he (or his body) misses "a certain something" about cigarettes..
nicotine, by itself in appropriate amounts, is not that bad- and may even have some positives. Attention, concentration, etc etc. That said, you may be able to wean down and go to 0mg over time. Many do. And, I tend to support whatever works to help all of us avoid the hazards of inhaling smoke.
If you have the stomach for it, extra menthol adds throat sensation too. And making menthol drops is easy and cheap. I echo what many have already said - "high voltage" ups the ante. Especially if you like menthol. If you have a Riva you should be able to safely rock a low res atty for a similar experience. Downside is that low res attys seem to have a lower life span. *MUCH* lower in some cases.
If you're so inclined, local vapers meet-ups are one of the best ways to try out a variety of high-volt options without spending any cash. (Welcome to the Florida Vapers Club)
Also, if you're allergic to PG, I was able to try out some of VaporRenu's double menthol juice at the Dayton Ohio meet-up. They can offer 100% VG blends and have a throat hit option independent of nic (I presume it's added with alcohol). It's a great value priced juice. Maybe a good option?
Jack
If you're so inclined, local vapers meet-ups are one of the best ways to try out a variety of high-volt options without spending any cash. (Welcome to the Florida Vapers Club)
Also, if you're allergic to PG, I was able to try out some of VaporRenu's double menthol juice at the Dayton Ohio meet-up. They can offer 100% VG blends and have a throat hit option independent of nic (I presume it's added with alcohol). It's a great value priced juice. Maybe a good option?
Jack
I vape menthol juice and get one heck of a TH from my KR808. I have tried other flavors and they did not give anywhere near the TH that my menthol does.
ED-209, your first and last post really moved me. I have gotta be some kinda lucky getting ample TH within a coupla days for my shot-in-the-dark kit purchase, and well, The Forum.
"smell, stains, etc." indeed. (on analogs)
Valencia/Menthol in my cart
"smell, stains, etc." indeed. (on analogs)
Valencia/Menthol in my cart
- Status
Similar threads
