I want a great RDA - The Trident, The Omega, The ______?

[SkoOtz.DC]

Hmm, the madvapes clone has the grand vapor stamp on it. Would the one from kidneypuncher be of an equivalent quality? or would i be gambling on a different device and manufacturing quality entirely?

I love clones and support them entirely, but I am uncomfortable buying a clone with a fake stamp. I in no way judge someone purchasing a stamped clone (esp if they have no intention of reselling it). I personally wont buy a clone with a fake stamp only because i don't know if i plan to keep it. Being even an unknowing party in someones defrauding is just not something i want to risk.

 

[KurrptSenate]

If you want the best flavor I'd go with the Atomic RDA all the way

 

[SkoOtz.DC]

You buy Kodak film and Nikon Cameras, not the other way around.
Same goes for vaping.

I love you. Truly, a deep love to last the ages. I would have quoted your entire post but i thought we would be back to back and why annoy people. Thank you for taking the time to write all that. You are absolutely right, i dont understand everything you said. But I will. And soon, before i buy. Viscous Ant Valkyrie wasnt on my radar. But im am going to strongly look into it. If it doesnt work out im screwed because you talked me out of everything else.

Im willing to learn. I have confidence in myself, i dont need the device to make it easy. I need it to function as it was intended every time for a long time. I can learn everything else. What i dont want is something breaking or malfunctioning adding another variable in an equation that has enough to begin with. In a perfect world, i want a RDA that the only error will be an operator error.

edit: the Atomic and a few others are still on my ever shrinking list. Thank you all

 

[ZeroOhms]

Wait, is this going to be your first RDA? If so, get IGO-L or W. These are very similar to more expensive one like Nimbus and plenty room to try out different configurations. Get your coil preference setup first (cotton/silica, gauge/flat..etc). Also, you can drill the air hole larger yourself without worrying about ruining $100 atty. Buying Trident or Helio as your first RDA is like buying sports car while learning how to drive manual shift.
You can put the cash towards getting a good VV/VW. So you don't screw up your expensive mech mod when you have shorts. (and you will have shorts.)

 

[SkoOtz.DC]

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[SkoOtz.DC]

Wait, is this going to be your first RDA? You can put the cash towards getting a good VV/VW. So you don't screw up your expensive mech mod when you have shorts. (and you will have shorts.)

Yes it will be my first RDA But i do have a RSST and a Kayfun 3.1. Limited experience building coils, but no real difficulties to date. I have always been able to easily determine the mistakes i made and fix them in the next evolution. I already have a Provari, but i haven't grabbed any super expensive mech mods. I picked up a Smoktech Natural but im not fully comfortable with it yet. Mainly because i feel there are holes in my knowledge of battery safety and why take the risk?

But i have built micro-coils before and enjoyed the experience greatly. What i dont like in any walks of life is being limited by the device. Whether it be a guitar, a car on something unspecified. I want the only limits to my experience to be my own knowledge. While I understand there are risks associated with this mentality, I have approached them cautiously. I always doing the math and operate within sensible ranges. So, please don't hold back. It may be a smaller deck to work on, or have a greater complexity, but i have the patience and am willing to learn. What should i buy that wont hold me back, ever.

 

[ZeroOhms]

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Oh! totally misunderstood where you were coming from. Scratch what I said before and go for the big gun!
If you want something looking cool with your PV, how about eBaron? Haven't use it personally, but look damn good on PV.

 

[Pegasus1337]

Get and Igo-W4 for now.

These days NO ONE TAKES OFF THE DRIP TIP AND DRIPS. Everyone takes off the tap cap, Drips, then vapes. That's the truth.
Why? because dripping is back when we used carto sticks and we dripped into a metal straw. These days with all the different builds.
Dragon coil, Tinman Coil, Micro Coil, Nanocoil, Soaker Build, Roller Coaster Build. We don't drip as much as we are more like Priming the wick and coil with juice directly.

Therefore. The Igo-W4 is REALLY CHEAP, Dirt Cheap, so if you ruin it you won't care because it will be your beater item.
The Cap is also shaped in a way where its really easy to remove and replace non-stop constantly.

Lastly The cap isn't thick or made out of any material that is difficult to modify or drill.

 

[SkoOtz.DC]

If you want the best flavor I'd go with the Atomic RDA all the way

For me it is a mix of flavor and vapor quantity. Neither is capable of satisfying me on its own. I need strong vapor and strong flavor. I realize this cuts me off from either extreme, IE: intense intense flavor, or huge clouds. For me its a middle ground, i want to be able to get deep flavor and nice clouds. Do i want to fog up a room? No, maybe when i was younger.

 

[SkoOtz.DC]

Oh! totally misunderstood where you were coming from.

haha, cheers. Its easy to do, im very new. In fact I'm tentative myself with how fast i want to move, one of the reasons the mech is on the back burner. Only been here a week. Trying to do it safely, but i love to play with stuff, so its hard to hold back.
I have a tab for the eBaron opened up as im writing this and will check it out. Thanks for taking the time

Oh and sorry for messing with your quote, i was trying to quote you at the time as it turns out and it wouldnt let me so i had to move my comment.

 

[SkoOtz.DC]

Get and Igo-W4 for now.

These days NO ONE TAKES OFF THE DRIP TIP AND DRIPS. Everyone takes off the tap cap, Drips, then vapes.

Thank you. The three posts is nice. Thats important to me. I like the idea of an entry level device that i can treat as a bit of a banger. But i want to be able to experiment with different coils. Thats the key, i want to be able to build the majority of coils i see on youtube to experiment.

Would you recommend the igo-w4 over a decent Trident clone? I still like the idea of a Valkyrie but for a starting point this might make more sense.

 

[Pegasus1337]

the igo-w4 will last longer and more sturdy than the trident clone.

I own both. I've been through three tridents.

 

[Joka]

I have an igo-l and it has holes in the post...therefor I love mine to death and would recommend it...but without the holes I wouldn't, wrapping the wire around the screws really was annoying to me, everytime.
I remember seeing a 3D rda, are they worthy of a purchase? Any one tried one and have a mini review im thinking of grabbing one

 

[sludgeheart]

I want the only limits to my experience to be my own knowledge. While I understand there are risks associated with this mentality, I have approached them cautiously.

More in commiseration than advice cause I'm new at this too. Reading the whole thread I find Pegasus's advice most applicable to the situation at hand (yours and mine), because she/he provides a very good picture of how imperfect the wares being sold are and how fluid their evolution is.
Like you I'm just beginning to experiment which, as you've already hinted, means I am learning as much as I can about battery safety. That world too is quickly evolving, so don't go sub-ohm without first appreciating why so many prefer Sony batteries.
The note on safety over, I move to what I've learned so far about the goods out there.
Clones are the brainchildren of mechanical imbeciles and marketing geniuses created for the sole purpose of separating suckers like me (I include no one else in the category) and their money. The comment you most hear about most clones is 'for that amount of money you can't complain'. Well I do. If you want to avoid intrinsic, and often intelligence insulting, limitations in what you buy, then avoid clones. They are by definition defective goods masquerading as superior ones. For example, I have a Trident clone with the famous slotted posts that supposedly make rebuilding so much easier which I bought from a reputable retailer in US. Thanks but give me the eye straining pinholes any day. In comparison to the positive, the negative posts on my Trident are so low that for my coil to sit properly I not only find the slots useless but a pain to work with. You get what you pay for.
I also have an IGO-W. Good atomizer for the price, which means I had to widen one hole and drill an extra one as I began building lower resistance, not necessarily sub-ohm, coils. It functions well enough for coils above 1.2 ohms, but the walls are just too thin for sub-ohm coils and the atomizer becomes uncomfortably hot. The solution is of course to widen the existing holes. But isn't that another limitation piggybacked on the back of a first?
Today I sprung for an Atomic. I'm sure it too will have its limitations, I just hope these are not so big as to make me feel like a sucker for buying the damn thing.

 

[rastapete69]

I went backwards.
Started with a Trident clone that frustrated me with the post coming loose, probably due to my clumsy attempts to build as a newbie to RDA's.
Next, I couldn't get the center pin right and ended up shelving it.
Finally, I got an Igo W and took a titanium drill bit, a few drops of oil, and nervously attempted to drill out the air holes and shook my head when I was done in 30 seconds of low speed, light pressure drilling.
After admiring my work, I twisted dual micro coils and easily mounted them in the sturdy posts with easy to reach holes.
When I fired up the .5 ohm build and tasted the flavor and enjoyed the warm vape, I was glad I didn't give up.

I see another Trident in my future but am a big fan of my Igo W on my Sigelei at the moment