I want to love my Protank 2, but ...

[Pstarsr]

During your coil spacing could you have pushed the wraps down close to the rubber isolator? So when it gets hot it's transferring heat and the rubber is out gasing?

Take a coil, don't touch it ( you said every coil was checked and respaced for hot spots ). And try it? And really I'd like to know if another juice does this too

 

[godowar]

During your coil spacing could you have pushed the wraps down close to the rubber isolator? So when it gets hot it's transferring heat and the rubber is out gasing?

Take a coil, don't touch it ( you said every coil was checked and respaced for hot spots ). And try it? And really I'd like to know if another juice does this too

Pstarsr,

I also had a thought that maybe the 1.5ohm 5x replacement head pack I bought, might have not been a Kanger product, and a knock off clone, or maybe Kanger outsourced them for production. So I said ... Let me try one of the two original heads that came with the Protank 2. Got home dug up the 1.8ohm head from the Kanger box, installed, dripped juice onto the wick edges, tossed into my protank 2, and let it sit upright for about 10min. Then vaped .... WHOA!!!!! Seemed like it might work.... But unfortunately the rubber taste is back after about my 5th vape. Over the course of about 30 minutes ... So nice 6-7sec pulls every 6 minutes @3.6v.

But I must confess it is a fainter rubber taste, but it is still definitely present.

I am vaping Homemade Magic Rypple.
Flavor Apprentice flavors:
18mg/ml strength 60pg/40vg
Double Ry4 16%
Apple Pie 2%
Honey 2%

 

[Scott_Simpson]

I have eight ProTanks, plus several Kanger T3s; here's what I've found:

1. The "rubber" taste is from the bottom grommet (the one that pinches the wires) burning or scorching. This is caused by vaping the PTs (or T3s) at too high a wattage. These are definitely low-wattage devices. I vape mine in the 7-8 Watt range; any higher and the burnt rubber taste starts coming out.

2. Almost all the stock coils are wrapped WAY too tight; chokes the wick and restricts juice flow ... and efforts to improve juice flow by mucking around with the silicon cap that seals the tube only promotes leaks. There is no way to correct this other than learning to rebuild the heads; I rebuild all my PT and T3 heads with cotton cheesecloth and I have ZERO dry hits and ZERO leaking.

3. If you elect to learn to rebuild your heads (and I really recommend it; it's not as hard as people fear, and the results are well worth it!), I also recommend getting a wire welder (I use the Spotty v1; got it from the list on Vapor Wall, and it's excellent) and rebuilding your heads using NR/R/NR wires. This will completely eliminate the "hot legs" issue, which is the biggest contributing factor to the burnt rubber taste. I've also had success with the twisted legs solution, which ameliorates the burnt rubber issue, but the downside of this method is leaking ... the twisted wires are fatter than a single strand of NR wire, and the seal of the bottom grommet (the wire-pinching one) is not as secure as with the single NR wire.

4. As a bonus, re-wicking the ProTanks (and T3s) with cotton instead of silica really improves the flavor! I vape some pretty intense flavors (e.g., Boba's Bounty, Grant's Vanilla Custard, etc.) and I get just as full a flavor from the rebuilt PTs as I do from my high-end attys. Cotton wicks match the flavor of genesis atomizers in my experience ...

5. I wash my ProTanks in hot, soapy water in an ultrasonic cleaner; I use a generous squirt of Dawn dishwashing liquid (the best grease cutter I've found!) and distilled water. Two eight-minute cycles in the USC, and then a rinse in clean distilled water, removes all the flotsam and jetsam from the manufacturing process ... the amount of dirt and metal shavings that come off in the USC is simply amazing. No wonder so many of these taste rotten out of the box!

6. One further hint: if you have an ultrasonic cleaner, drop the heads in a shot glass full of pure grain alcohol (PGA; I use EverClear 190 proof from my local liquor store) and set the shot glass in the USC with warm water up to the level of the alcohol. A couple of cycles, and the heads are good as new! No USC? Just an hour-long soak in the PGA works about as well ...

Aside from my high-end atomizers (Penelopes, Ithakas, Russian 91%s, etc.), the ProTanks are the best toppers I've used after I stopped using the stock coils. As always, YMMV

 

[Pstarsr]

I swear last night when I filled my mini protank I tasted rubber, I was said " nooooo godowar has cursed meeeeee "

But it went away or I didn't notice it again after the 3rd of 4th hit.

I would suggest leaving one head in for awhile, maybe you just need to "season" the head. New heads taste off to me till a tank or so has been run through them

And you keep telling me the juice your using, but it's the same juice. Please read I'm asking you to TRY A DIFFERENT juice to be sure it isn't the juice. Since protanks are known to mute/ change tastes of juice.

 

[godowar]

Pstarsr,

Sorry ... I am also utilizing Black Honey Tobacco same nic and vg/pg ration as the other but at 10% flavoring (This stuff is strong). Still get the Rubber. Black Cherry ejuice = Same, Cinnamon Sugar Cookie = Same.. The only juice that actually HIDES the flavor is my wifes Cinnamon Candy Cane. But, that is my concern is that it is hiding the flavor.

All the other flavors the rubber is present.

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Scott,

I am not going to go through all the effort of NR/R/NR wire on a clearomizer head. I was looking for Hassle Free vape, not hassle filled.
But if I am going to take the time to do NR/R/NR wire setup, I might as well switch to my Terminator C (Odysseus Clone).

But thanks for the suggestions. Guess I will go back to Cartomizer Tanks, and wait for my Russian 91% pre-order to arrive.

 

[look30]

I stopped using the stock coils. As always, YMMV

Agreed , once you build your own coils and TORCH them before use , the taste is almost on par with high end atty's.
Alwaystorch the Silica and then before installing , torch again the silica and coil together.

I do not agree that PT2 is the best , I recently received the Davide and it kicks PT2 ... at anything from build quality, price to taste and vapor production.

 

[Pstarsr]

Pstarsr,

Sorry ... I am also utilizing Black Honey Tobacco same nic and vg/pg ration as the other but at 10% flavoring (This stuff is strong). Still get the Rubber. Black Cherry ejuice = Same, Cinnamon Sugar Cookie = Same.. The only juice that actually HIDES the flavor is my wifes Cinnamon Candy Cane. But, that is my concern is that it is hiding the flavor.

All the other flavors the rubber is present.

Ok fair enough, thanks. Some people say evod coils fit in protanks, are the constructed differently?

I haven't been 100% satisfied with the mini protanks I have, but they work for the most part. This seems to be a constant search many have, the best most consistent delivery device. That's why I think most end up with rba/rda setups and drip. They control the quality by the parts the build it with

But for $20 they aren't rocket science and I don't expect them to be really.

Hopefully they ( kanger ) makes changes to the coil so there isn't as much inconsistency and this rubber taste. Cause I don't want it on any of my coils either

 

[supermarket]

I've heard of the Davide (kanger pro tank clone basically) having the same problem. a real strong rubbery taste.

You can try soaking all the parts in white vinegar. I did that to get rid of the metallic taste from the first pro tank when I first bought it, and it got rid of it completely.

 

[look30]

I've heard of the Davide (kanger pro tank clone basically) having the same problem. a real strong rubbery taste.

You can try soaking all the parts in white vinegar. I did that to get rid of the metallic taste from the first pro tank when I first bought it, and it got rid of it completely.

Sorry to burst your bubble , I have 2 Davide and a PT2 and not even a hint of rubber. Vinegar does nothing to improve the taste , maybe hide it but that's about it.

 

[Pstarsr]

Sorry to burst your bubble , I have 2 Davide and a PT2 and not even a hint of rubber. Vinegar does nothing to improve the taste , maybe hide it but that's about it.

Not exactly sure what your saying. you have no rubber taste, But the vinegar doesn't improve the taste only hides what?

Improve the taste, The metal taste?

Godowar, I hade the rubber taste again when I started using my mini protank today. I think your bad juju found me. But it went away about 10 hits later after my coil and tank heated up. What I mean is the metal glass and juice all warmed up

 

[Trayce]

This may not solve your issue - but it solved mine...
I didn't like the taste off a new ProTank AT ALL, seemed more metallic than rubbery to me - but it was muted flavor with a hint of say WD40. I tried hot water, boiling, and vodka like you with no improvement.
Removing some wicking improved flow, which seemed to improve the "muted" part, but still the flavor wasn't clean.
The next thing I tried made enough of a difference that I bought more ProTanks - SOAP.
Not the coil, but the rest of the ProTank got a wash with SOAP.
I am convinced they have some kind of machine oil coating that is not removed by anything but a soap wash.

Can't hurt...

Thanks for answering me and sorry I lost track of what threads I'd posted in. I just realized ECF puts a little green dealy next to the ones you post in.

I actually DID wash the PT2 in Dawn, and even took a brand new soft toothbrush and "scrubbed" all parts in a hot soapy water container... let them sit, then rinsed them.

Now after nearly a week and putting many tanks of juice through, the metal taste is gone, but am not crazy about the fact I "vaped it away" through my lungs. And am still not using the metal drip tip.

But I do like the PT2 because of it being pyrex and coming completely apart to clean.

 

[Susan W.]

That's it!! WD40!! I forgot to wash my ProTank and had that weird taste and couldn't remember the name of what it tasted like. Was going bonkers trying to remember. I had to wash the tank and all the parts including the head with soapy water and that fixed the WD40 taste problem. I don't taste any rubber or plastic. I did with EVOD's and tried everything to get rid of the plastic taste and couldn't. I got rid of them pronto as I couldn't stand looking at them, mocking me.

This may not solve your issue - but it solved mine...
I didn't like the taste off a new ProTank AT ALL, seemed more metallic than rubbery to me - but it was muted flavor with a hint of say WD40. I tried hot water, boiling, and vodka like you with no improvement.
Removing some wicking improved flow, which seemed to improve the "muted" part, but still the flavor wasn't clean.
The next thing I tried made enough of a difference that I bought more ProTanks - SOAP.
Not the coil, but the rest of the ProTank got a wash with SOAP.
I am convinced they have some kind of machine oil coating that is not removed by anything but a soap wash.

Can't hurt...

 

[vaptronic]

My PT2 got really rusty on the inside... I don't know how but it did


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[look30]

That's it!! WD40!! I forgot to wash my ProTank and had that weird taste and couldn't remember the name of what it tasted like. Was going bonkers trying to remember. I had to wash the tank and all the parts including the head with soapy water and that fixed the WD40 taste problem. I don't taste any rubber or plastic. I did with EVOD's and tried everything to get rid of the plastic taste and couldn't. I got rid of them pronto as I couldn't stand looking at them, mocking me.

Everybody should buy an Ultrasonic cleaner, I y se mine all the time and never had any issues like WD40 taste or even my plastic atty's getting smelly or cross taste when changing juices.
You can also use it to speed steeping your tobacco based juice.

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[Pstarsr]

I just did by bi monthly atomizer cleaning, and noticed something I wanted to share with the op.

My girl chokes up her wicks, cooks the things. So I have to sometimes physically chip away crud. One coil had crud under it so I thought now woud be a great time to disassemble one, lift the coil out and get the crud off.

As I did this I noticed the rubber isolator was burnt under the coil, not soot but burnt. Not melted though. But definitely burnt.

She cranks her mini protank down when tightening and her isolator is always smashed when I look at them. Usually it's about 1/8 thick near the positive post, hers are half that. I wonder if tightening too far compresses the isolator flange in turn pushing the rubber up into the coil.

Just something I'm tossing out there, I only tighten till I feel contact. Maybe that helps. Not sure if the bigger protank has a similar atomizer carrier

 

[peterforpats]

Guys/Gals,

I WANT to love my Protank 2, but I can not get rid of the damnable rubber taste. I have gone through numerous heads, and tried multiple things. I gave my Protank 1's to my wife as I hated the airy draw. The Protank 2's have a perfect draw for me, and I want to switch over from Smoktech DC Cartomizer's in a tank system as they tend to clog easier than the Protanks. Head cost is about the same, but I can rebuild the heads on the Protanks if/when I ever get a wire joiner.

All heads have 1 of the two flavor wicks removed due to persistent dry hits, and manipulated the coils to make sure they were evenly spaced and no hotspots were present. All heads are 1.5 - 1.8ohm

Head 1: Fresh out of sealed package. Quick rinse with Microwaved hot filtered water. (Rubber Taste) @ 3.6v
Head 2: Tossed into a glass dish and soaked in white vinegar for 1 hour, then rinsed with filtered water. (Rubber Taste) @3.5v
Head 3: Tossed into a glass dish and soaked in Vodka for 1 hour, and rinsed with filtered water. (Rubber Taste) @ 3.4v
Head 4: Got on my knees, prayed, Vinegar for 1 hour + rinse, vodka for 1 hour + rinse, sacrificed a few hornets with raid out back to appease the vape gods, Nuked to (almost boiling) water, and soaked for an hour. (STILL RUBBER TASTE) AGHHH!!!!!!! @ 3.4v
Head 5: Did all of the above, and totally removed the stem rubber gasket at the wicks (STILL RUBBER). @ 3.4v

So I Kicked the empty Kanger Protank 2 box I was saving for no reason, and told my wife that the gods hate me, went into a dark closet with my blanky, sucked my thumb and cried to sleep after vaping on my carto.

I would prefer to vape the 1.5ohm'ish heads at 3.6v as that is how I vape my 1.5ohm Carts ... But this Rubber taste is frigging killing me!!!!!

Please oh Kanger Protank 2 experts, please help!

GoW

if you like the protank1 but didn't like the airy draw get a tatroe bottom and have the best of both worids-perfect draw with minimal parts to worry about... or get a dbox puritank and get all that plus more capacity.... or get a davide glassomizer and well, you know.....

 

[peterforpats]

That's it!! WD40!! I forgot to wash my ProTank and had that weird taste and couldn't remember the name of what it tasted like. Was going bonkers trying to remember. I had to wash the tank and all the parts including the head with soapy water and that fixed the WD40 taste problem. I don't taste any rubber or plastic. I did with EVOD's and tried everything to get rid of the plastic taste and couldn't. I got rid of them pronto as I couldn't stand looking at them, mocking me.

no offense, but if it tasted like wd40 that means you know what wd40 tastes like and why are you tasting wd40? you know its not a garnish, right?

 

[vaptronic]

no offense, but if it tasted like wd40 that means you know what wd40 tastes like and why are you tasting wd40? you know its not a garnish, right?

I find that WD40 is exquisite when paired with spaghetti and a big bowl of ceasar salad...


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