I will never order from LiteCigUSA ever again. They do not know their products and are very unprofessional.

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dragonspirit1185

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Ok so my vaping experience has been a nightmare. I started my journey by ordering this kit here Kr808d-1 starter kit: kr808d-1 cartomizers, kr808d battery and more! Kr808d-1 kit from LiteCigUSA! yet I received a manual kit instead. The description said it comes with 5 blank cartomizers yet I got 5 prefilled Marlboro cartomizers.
I had just quit smoking and was going through some bad things and I figured I could just get my kit and vape but I couldn't. I could not stand the Marlboro cartos one bit. I have anxiety issues and wound up having to vape them anyway.
I called the customer support number and spoke to Wendy and she kinda beat around the bush about it and I felt like I was getting ripped off so I got a bit wound up but they are suppose to be able to handle themselves well no matter what.
So she talked to Shawn and they were going to send me the right kit in 2 days. Shawn sent me an email explaining that these KR808D-1 kits don't come with blanks anymore yet the description said it did indeed come with 5 blank cartos. He said he would send me a box of blank cartos to make up for the mistake. Those cartos happened to be premium vertical coil instead of the horizontal coil regular blanks and I don't like them one bit.
The cartos that came with the replacement automatic kit were blanks though, but have the coil located in the center.
That wasn't the 1st time they did not know their products.
I wound up having to take the cartos with the Marlboro liquid (which were true bottom coil) and clean them and wait for them to fully dry out.

I also got a KR808D-1 case KR808D-1 electronic cigarette Carrying Case and the manual nor automatic batteries fit but Wendy the customer service rep told me hers did but I actually had to cut up my case to even get it to work. I talked to Shawn about this and he wasn't sure (2nd time they did not know their own product) why the batteries did not fit in the case. He said he would check then get back to me. He said he would refund the amount for the case back to my card but refunded me in site credit instead. i still don't know if it ever got refunded to the card I need to go check on that.
Ok like I said during the convo with Wendy I did get all wound up and I was being as polite as I could be and Shawn confronted me in an email about how I was being. That is just something you don't do. You do not confront customers no matter how bad their attitude is. Besides my attitude got bad cause of the rep beating around the bush and I thought I was gonna get ripped off. anyways like I said you do not get onto your customers no matter how they are being. excuse me for having anxiety issues and a was having an anxiety attack cause I just spent all my money and had no money to get some menthol cigarettes until I got the right kit in the mail.
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So that was the first few disappointments and we aren't done....
So I also ordered with kit a bottle of Dekang Cool Menthol Liquid and WOW it is insanely strong. I had to wind up cutting it down to 10% and using 90% VG just so it was tolerable. I made several reviews and the reviews kept getting deleted. Also me being a newcomer to the vaping world I didn't understand that the "Strength" meant the Nicotine content lol. I was a smoker and when we see strength we think of well then it's full flavor so I ordered 24mg. I was clearly wrong So this could have been easily cleared up with that red asterisk they have next to "Strength" I poured over the page to find no explanation. :glare:
Ok so all this finally got sorted out and things were fixed. Yet that asterisk is still on the site but nothing is found on the page to explain why it is there.

I contacted them recently about getting some of their KR808d-1 Blank Cartomizers and I have no clue who I was speaking to they would not put their name in the email. So anyways I asked if their cartomizers have the coil on the bottom or in the center and the person told me they are bottom coiled and are hard capped. FALSE. I just got them today and they are indeed not bottom coiled and they were soft capped(no complaints there though lol). I called them and Wendy wanted to argue with me and tell me differently(once again they don't know their own products). The pics posted below show the truth.
Btw during this product support email because I was asking so many questions making sure I know what I am getting I was told "I am just going to suggest you purchase them elsewhere as I am not sure you will be happy with ours." Come on, seriously? You say this just cause I am trying to be sure on what I am getting and I am being a bit difficult. You just don't say things like that to customers. If it wasn't for the credits on the account and my reward points trust me I would have went elsewhere. Yet where else was I gonna get cartomizers and a drip tip for only $5.20? no where. in the end you was right anonymous email support person cause I indeed was not happy but only because you told me I would be getting bottom coiled cartomizers but I didn't get bottom coiled cartomizers.
Anyways here is some visual evidence.
I inserted a toothpick into the air tube and gently pushed it down to the coil from the mouth piece on a true bottom coil cartomizer below.
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Then I marked it using a fine tipped sharpie.
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I then pulled it out and did the same with the cartomizer I just got today which I was told was bottom coil.
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as you can clearly see the toothpick does not go down to the line because the coil is located in the center of the cartomizer and not at the bottom. Every other kanger cartomizers I have seen sold by other sites are bottom coil so I'm pretty sure this is not made by Kanger. You only get half the use out of these cartomizers cause once you vape the juice down past the coil there is wicking issues and you have to top off the cartomizer.

I also mentioned to Wendy how the 510/901/KR808d-1 "Super Shorty" Black Delrin Drip Tip was not really black but more of a really dark gray. Even the picture on the site shows it as gray more than anything but I thought that was just dust or residue from the manufacturing.
Wendy then wanted to debate and argue with me again and then said "I don't know what you want us to do but we aren't gonna replace them." I told her I am done doing business with LiteCig and I wanted my money refunded.
Once Wendy heard this she really let her attitude show and said I will be refunded and told me have a good day and I was in the middle of talking and she hung up on me. I was actually being pretty calm today.

So I then sit down at the computer having to order new cartomizers and I went to go write some reviews on their site before doing so and I got to sign in and my account was gone. They had deleted my account within 5 minutes which is unprofessional :-x

My vaping experience has been a nightmare. I have not gotten the full performance out of my kit yet due to their incompetence. I have had this kit since October and I'm still fighting to get things right. Hopefully when I get the right bottom coil catomizers I will get my first true vaping experience.

So not only did these guys not know their products and just said things not knowing for sure, they also messed up on both orders, then want to argue with me and be unprofessional. It has been a nightmare.
They are one out of a few I have ordered from and so far they are the only once acting in such a manor and not fully knowing their products and being very vague with descriptions.


Know your products.
Don't argue with customers and have an attitude with them, no matter how they are being.
Always be professional.


 
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shawnp1

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I am sorry you feel this way, we have had nothing but issues with your attitude and how you talk to us. We mistakenly sent you a manual kit which we then overnighted you the correct kit at our expense, we also refunded you the price of the case you are talking about. At this point we have refunded you every single penny you have spent on our site. We are more then willing to help anyone as you will see all over this forum. I wont however have my employees talked down to and belittled on the phone. Not very kind to make a female customer service rep cry because of your belligerent and belittling attitude. We wish you the best in your vaping ventures. I will no longer reply to this thread, so feel free to close/lock thread.
 
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dragonspirit1185

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I am sorry you feel this way, we have had nothing but issues with your attitude and how you talk to us. We mistakenly sent you a manual kit which we then overnighted you the correct kit at our expense, we also refunded you the price of the case you are talking about. At this point we have refunded you every single penny you have spent on our site. We are more then willing to help anyone as you will see all over this forum. I wont however have my employees talked down to and belittled on the phone. Not very kind to make a female customer service rep cry because of your belligerent and belittling attitude. We wish you the best in your vaping ventures. I will no longer reply to this thread, so feel free to close/lock thread.

This goes to show your attitude.
Here you are focusing on me and how I acted towards your employee and not your company's mistakes and the fact that both times I ordered from you guys things got messed up.
You want to sit there and attack me instead of talking about the issue at hand which is the fact your company has messed things up twice, they don't know their products well, and act unprofessional when under pressure.

I was very calm with Wendy today actually. She got an attitude with me and the attitude didn't come out until she knew who I was after she asked for my info and due to her attitude shift and acting like your company did nothing wrong I said we need to work this out and I'm not going to do business with you guys again. Then her attitude got even worse.

Is it my fault your people messed up so many times and you had to fix the things that were wrong and thereby refunding me or compensating me in some way?...um no it isn't. so don't complain about refunds you had to make due to your company's errors. The only thing that was really my fault was not knowing what that the strength meant nicotine not flavor.
Here lately things have gotten messed up with a couple orders from other places and things got fixed and I don't see them complaining publicly cause it was not my fault. It was their fault and they made things right.
It happens and it is up to you and your team to remain professional no matter how irate the customer is and take care of the issue and fix it.
Like I said I know I was being a bit rude but Wendy being a female has nothing to do with it, now you're implying I am being sexist.
I highly doubt I made her cry. She was asking me to calm down and never showed any sadness or any signs I was upsetting her when I called.

People this guy is just flat out lying. I did go off but not enough to make anyone cry.
I went off about the products I didn't go off on her personally. Why would I?....it's not her fault.
Here he is trash talking customer and now lying. This is absurd.
If I was really that bad he would have told me not to bother doing business with them anymore.
I've never acted like this towards John of Wizard Labs or anyone else cause they do their jobs very well and make sure things are right and when things aren't right they don't make a fuss about it and they just fix it.

I really can't believe you are going as far as lying saying I was belittling her when I was just talking about the products and how things were messed up.
Do you even know what belittle means? cause I wasn't belittling Wendy. Belittling her is telling her she can't do her job, she is worthless, etc. She actually handled the first call pretty well but this time she had and attitude once she figured out who I was.

belittlingpresent participle of be·lit·tle
Verb: Make (someone or something) seem unimportant: "this is not to belittle his role".

It was your teams fault things got messed up so if anyone is responsible it is your team for making me feel angry. If anyone was belittled during this is me cause your company made me feel unimportant as a customer.
I was just upset I got the wrong stuff. It wasn't Wendy's fault and I never made it seem that way but she was the one who answered the phone so she was the one who heard how upset and angry I was.
I never cussed her or attacked her personally. Why would I? It's not her fault.
Ff anyone made her feel unimportant it is you and your team cause due to you messing up the orders it made me angry and she got the backlash.
I was having a really bad day, anything and everything is going wrong for me.
I'm being kicked out on my birthday and having to move 5 1/2 hours away from my daughter, missing her 2nd bday, and me putting my last bit of money into an ecig kit then it all going wrong was the last straw for me.
That wasn't my best day and I was excited to finally have something work out for me but it didn't.
Customer service reps shouldn't expect everyone to be all kind and courteous all the time.
I have had customers cussing me out, throwing merchandise at me, and all kinds of stuff and I never lost my professionalism and still maintained great customer service skills.
Once again it had nothing to do with her being a female and she was taking it pretty well and even trying to help me calm down. You are just flat out lying.

I was told I would be refunded for this last order due to the fact a person told me they were bottom coiled and they are not.
Here(screenshot below) I was told they are bottom coiled and the pictures tell the truth and once my camera batteries charge I will upload and super macro pic showing down into the cartomizer and how the coil is in the center, not the bottom.
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What was said:
Me: "this needs to be fixed then after this I'm not doing anymore business with LiteCig"
Wendy "we will not replace the order."
Me: "then I want to be refunded for my purchase, because I was told I would get one thing but I got something different."
Wendy "Ok you will be refunded for this last order and that is it. We can't do anything else for you anymore"
Me "Ok thank you and after my refund I will part ways from this company and do my business elsewhere."
So I hope you will honor this.

The thread is for all to see and reply to it doesn't have to be closed because you don't want to converse with me anymore.
If people want to swing buy and put in their input then let them.
 
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I'm closing this thread because the supplier has nothing else to say. You were refunded the full amount so all that remains of this thread is bashing. Take your money and call it a lesson learned, I'm sure the supplier feels the same way.

I am also removing the screenshot of the email since it is against ECF terms of service.
 
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