I wish they would switch...

[mylose64]

My girlfriend and my brother smoke cigarettes. I Quit cigs about 3 months ago and I always hint to them about e-cigs. I never realized how bad they were until I quit. I feel a million, trillion times better.

Each time I see them smoke my insides turn. I smell the smoke and it stings my nose. I don't say "you should quit smoking" because I know, from personal experience, that doesn't work.

I've tried to help them switch and gave them a e-cig, but for some reason it only lasts a day or two.

any suggestions?

I know some people just won't switch, but I can't help thinking about their health and habit. I feel like since I started vaping, I crave nicotine less. I can go a day or two without even thinking about nicotine. But with cigarette smokers, each drag counts.

I don't mean to come off arrogant or I'm somehow better, I just really want them to stop coughing in the morning or rushing to the store when they have only one cig left.

 

[robert shohet]

yeah my wifes the same way i notice the more i pressure her the more concerned for her health she gets which in turn stresses her out so she would smoke more lol i just got her a setup and showed her a few benefits (stealth vape at work) once she gets used to it she will switch i hope if not well then more juice for me but ill always hope but pushing it on her doesnt help in my case people switch when they are truly ready it seems

 

[jj2]

I got a few friends like that. They even keep saying they want to quit. The only thing I can say is they just aren't ready to give up the analog. Even the one that coughs every time she lights up.

 

[proax9]

It can be frustrating..... BUT
everything I know now about smoking, I knew 5, 10,15 years ago, but that didn't stop me from smoking.

I fell in love with vaping with my first crappy PV I bought (I have since upgraded).... sometime it clicks with a person, sometimes it doesn't.
All you can do is try, but don't get crazy, I know that someone bugging me while I smoked for 30+ years never helped. Something has to click inside a person,

 

[Arthur Hucksake]

I wish I knew about this vaping lark ten years ago.

Need to prove to them it's an upgrade on their habit, an improvement. Give them a go on a good mod with 3.7v upward, strong tobacco type flavour and PG for throat hit.

Handing over a tame flavoured small battery device probably won't have the right effect.

 

[Nomoreash]

I've been working on my mom for almost a year and nothing has worked. She seemed receptive to it at first but now when she sees me coming toward her with a PV I get the middle finger and maybe a 1/2 heart attempt at trying it again for 1 draw then the finger again.

All I can do is wish you more luck than I've had with her. I've introduced many to vaping since I've started and most of those are off cigs completely now but I guess some will never change.

 

[NicLiq]

We went round and round with a neighbor. She watched several of us vape and announced she was going on Chantix for the second time. Six weeks later, she said it was doing damage to her brain so she had to quit. Then she said she was trying patches (didn't work), next was gum, then she said that if that didn't work, she would ask us about vaping. This whole thing was a WTF to me, so I asked her what flavors she liked and I loaded up a Riva and handed it to her with a 10 ml bottle of juice and told her to keep it for a few days just to see what it's like. The next day I helped her order a kit.

So, anyway, the only thing I've found that works is to put a PV in their hands with a flavor they like. I keep a spare new Riva kit in my house for people who want it right that very minute, then I re-order to replace it.

My biggest regret is that we didn't start doing this earlier so I didn't have to watch my other neighbor die of lung cancer that has now metastasized to his kidneys, brain and liver.

 

[robert shohet]

also be careful phillip morris is gonna come kick all our a....... if we convert to many

 

[Nomoreash]

also be careful phillip morris is gonna come kick all our a....... if we convert to many

No money in that. They'll try to over take the industry and tax us to death.

 

[Cronus6]

No money in that. They'll try to over take the industry and tax us to death.

Actually "big tobacco" isn't any more fond of the taxes placed on their products than smokers are.
They make no revenue from the taxes, and it just drives their customers away.

BUT I can see them trying to get into the business at some point, after all they already have a shrinking market even without vaping. They have their shareholders to consider.

Which could be good, they could make some amazing products. But somehow I think they will just continue down the same path of shady business they always have been on. (Marketing to children, not giving a damn about customers health etc.)

 

[Dee74]

So, anyway, the only thing I've found that works is to put a PV in their hands with a flavor they like. I keep a spare new Riva kit in my house for people who want it right that very minute, then I re-order to replace it.

This is how I now do it too and keep some samples bottles filled too.

 

[mylose64]

We went round and round with a neighbor. She watched several of us vape and announced she was going on Chantix for the second time. Six weeks later, she said it was doing damage to her brain so she had to quit. Then she said she was trying patches (didn't work), next was gum, then she said that if that didn't work, she would ask us about vaping. This whole thing was a WTF to me, so I asked her what flavors she liked and I loaded up a Riva and handed it to her with a 10 ml bottle of juice and told her to keep it for a few days just to see what it's like. The next day I helped her order a kit.

So, anyway, the only thing I've found that works is to put a PV in their hands with a flavor they like. I keep a spare new Riva kit in my house for people who want it right that very minute, then I re-order to replace it.

My biggest regret is that we didn't start doing this earlier so I didn't have to watch my other neighbor die of lung cancer that has now metastasized to his kidneys, brain and liver.

Nicotine gum is so stupid. I was at a CVS yesterday. They sold CVS BRAND nicotine gum for 39.95. It came with 40 pieces. It said it was reccommended that you chewed nine pieces a day "for best results".

I thought to myself wow, 39.95 for gum that's going to last 5 days? AND you need to do it for so many weeks for "best results".

That money could go to something that would ACTUALLY work, of course if the user stuck with it!

And yeah, I really don't want to outlive my g/f due to something caused by smoking, that's what hurts the most.

My girlfriend did have a flavor she like, but she kept saying "it's not the same" and I responded "exactly! It's better!"

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Cigarettes and nicotine are just like any other drug and we are the addicts. You aren't going to change the addict because the addict has to want to change. I know...I'm preaching to the choir. It's hard to sit back and watch a loved one kill themselves, even if it's just due to smoking. You have found a better, safer way of getting your nicotine. Count yourself among the lucky ones and just hope that one day your loved ones will one day seriously want to quit.

Your girlfriend is right; vaping isn't the same. That scares some people. I know it scared me at first. Smoking had been a friend for a long, long time and I honestly didn't think that vaping was going to make me quit completely. There's just something comforting about holding a pack of cigarettes, taking one out of the pack and lighting it. We even learn to communicate while holding one between our fingers and we can't do this with most PV's. Well, I can't with mine, but I use a couple of tube mods. LOL!

Maybe getting her a starter kit that looks like a cigarette will help. Look at a couple of kits with her, involve her in the process but let it be her decision. If she knows that you'll be there through the entire transition that might help out a lot. It might take a while or it might not happen at all. I hope it does happen for both of you.

 

[Puffadder]

You can lead a horse to water......

But everyone else is right you cannot try to push the issue or it may turn them off from the idea of switching permanently. I think patience is the key. I have made a few weak attempts to get my fiance to try it and was strongly rebuffed, so I have let it go. I figure when she is ready she will come to me and in the meantime all I can do is lead by example.

I don't even have many of the arguments in my favor. Analogs are not heavily taxed in Belize (yet) so there is really no cost savings. We both work out of our home most of the time so no help there. She used to have to go to NJ for meetings in Jan. / Feb. which was my best chance (being forced to smoke outside in the freezing cold) but I now have the short stick and her trips are in June and Sept.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I don't even have many of the arguments in my favor. Analogs are not heavily taxed in Belize (yet) so there is really no cost savings.

Adding years to your life is PRICELESS! There's the "savings" right there.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

You can get your e-juice in nice flavours, you can head off smoker's cough and kissing is better. Good luck with it.

 

[lolady]

..I don't say "you should quit smoking" because I know, from personal experience, that doesn't work...

Have you ever said, "Whoa! This is amazing! - Here, taste it!" ?

(insert machiavellian grin icon here)

 

[NicLiq]

And yeah, I really don't want to outlive my g/f due to something caused by smoking, that's what hurts the most.

My girlfriend did have a flavor she like, but she kept saying "it's not the same" and I responded "exactly! It's better!"

I think she's probably thinking about it. The "better" comment is the right way to go - make vaping more desirable, and not only for the right reasons - talk about it like it's a cooler thing to do (it is!). Peer pressure works - if you and others are vaping, the smokers want in, so start working on everyone else that smokes and spend time with them.

I don't know what age range you and your gf and friends are, but it's so much easier to bring people over in my age group (mid-40's and beyond) because we are starting to get physically sick from smoking, and we've watched our freedom to smoke dwindle down to nothing. When I had my first two kids (in 1987 and 1991), I was allowed to smoke in my hospital room with the baby in the room, I could sit at my desk at work and smoke all I wanted. By the time I had my last child, there was no smoking on hospital grounds and my employer refused to hire anyone that smoked, so the freedom angle also works for my age group. I've noticed that younger people don't get that part as much as they've been dealing with being an outcast from the start.

 

[mylose64]

Ha ha. oh yes, I make it desireable. I'm also like "wow this strawberry is so good taste it". Everytime I go out with my girlfriend people are like "what's that?" or "is that an electric cigarette? that's awesome!".

I know too well that the person wants to do it for themselves. I know A LOT about addiction. I went to probably 100 AA meetings with a friend who had a really rough time quitting drinking. I learned a lot.

I think what it comes down to is, she's being stubborn, and my brother thinks it's too much of a hassle.

I'd like to get a starter kit that Looks like a cigarette, but.... *looks around* I have like 15 different e-cigs lying around.

BTW where in our 20's, and before I quit I was physically sick. I always spit up crap in the morning and would take that last drag even though I had horrible heartburn which I learned was directly related to smoking. I hated having heartburn, I think not having it anymore is the best thing I got from quitting!

 

[mylose64]

I know this topic might not get me anywhere. I know too well of all the suggestions you are giving me. I really appreciate the suggestions.

I guess I just wanted to share my experience as a "vaper" who lives with two smokers...