I would appreciate some help with wicking the Recurve properly, i've tried just about everything

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Its been about a month now since I got into RDA's with the Recurve, have been using 3.5mm coils, quad core fused claptons from AVS. Both the coils i've been using clock around .35 and .25 ohms. I've been using Japanese cotton pads, and have tried just about every method I can find. The scottish roll, just tearing off strips that are around twice the diameter of my coils, just pulling the cotton out and threading it through, etc. Sometimes its too big, but when it does fit it just has little to no flavor. I peel off the outside of the pads so that its just the fluff. Not sure what other information I can give, it's just starting to drive me crazy because nothing I am doing is working and it almost feels like i'm getting worse at it the more I practice. Gone through over a third of the bag of pads i'm using, and really just don't know what to do. I've been told it could be the coils position, but I thought it's been positioned pretty well. Where the top of the coil sits flush with the top of the airflow walls.
 
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With mine, I don't have the wick too tight in the coil, just enough so there is some resistance, not much though. I cut the tails so they just touch the deck and thin them out by about 20-30%. I find that too much wick stuffed in the wells doesn't help. When priming the coil with juice I also don't drip over the coil and wicks. Just the coil. Few drops, wait for it to soak in some, few more, then gently pulse the mod to barely fire the coil at very low wattage, keep dripping and pulsing until the juice has wicked down from the coil to the tails. Works every time for me, ensures the wick in the coil is fully loaded and expanded too. Hope it helps.
 

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imo try 3mm instead of 3.5mm, the recurve has a small deck and your coil has to fit between both "half pipes"
and then be centered between them ofc, but general rule i kept for this one height wise, simply keep the coil flush with the top of the posts.

For your wicking, it has to be slightly tight, but not overly tight, and don't overfill the juice well with cotton.
I get tons of flavor on mine with a 3mm coil.
 

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imo try 3mm instead of 3.5mm, the recurve has a small deck and your coil has to fit between both "half pipes"
and then be centered between them ofc, but general rule i kept for this one height wise, simply keep the coil flush with the top of the posts.

For your wicking, it has to be slightly tight, but not overly tight, and don't overfill the juice well with cotton.
I get tons of flavor on mine with a 3mm coil.
Can it really not work with 3.5? I'm using prebuilts from AVS at the moment so they are all 3.5, though I was going to get more soon so I could just get 3.0 then.
 

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Can it really not work with 3.5? I'm using prebuilts from AVS at the moment so they are all 3.5, though I was going to get more soon so I could just get 3.0 then.
I won't say that it won't work, what i do say is that i'm suggesting you use smaller diameter, otherwise you're risking chocking your wicks in that small well on the RDA (i'm using 3mm myself and the wicks barely fit in the well sometimes).

If it fits it works, but bigger is not always better i only use bigger in my drop rda, then again there's alot more space in it for bigger coils and wicks.

What you could do is take a 3mm rod,screwdriver or anything, put your coil through it, hang on and pull one of the leads in order to make it smaller. I've never done it but i've seen it done time and time again.
 

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First off I have no experience with a Recurve RDA. What I can say is with quad core fused claptons you have to use alot of wattage to get those coils to perform.What watts are you running them at? Also if you don't have enough airflow around the coils you won't get performance. If I had that RDA I would use 2.5mm id coils and no bigger than 3.0mm id coils. Wicking should just barely touch the deck. Bigger is not always better. Also big exotic coils are not necessary IN MY OPINION. A good 24g spaced round wire coil would do nice in that RDA. If you are going to have RDAs you should learn how to make coils.
 
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Have you tried rayon yet? I mean, unless you have some aversion to it I might give that a shot. Rayon turned all my hard to wick atomizers into leakproof machines.

I don't have specific experience with your particular atomizer, but if you decide to give it a go, well these fine folks solved all my wicking issues in like two posts and a couple follow up questions.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forums/diy-e-liquid.38/

I'm not saying your problems may not be due to coil diameter or anything else, but since your post pretty much said, "everything I've tried hasn't worked," well it may be worth a shot.

Best of luck

Anna
 

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3.5 works. But somehow my insulator has deformed a bit, so that it's no longer flush with the positive post.
And the post holes are very small as well.

Before that I've struggled to get some really good flavor out of it, so all in all I'm not very impressed with the Recurve.
 

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So far, nobody likes the recurve who is running coils bigger than 3mm. o_O

I agree with @Don29palms, 24ga SS spaced coils perform better than boutique coils in the recurve. I've tried lots of different coils because I like finding what works best for me and it's kinda interesting. Restricted air, small deck.... simple coil.
 

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I've used 3 different cottons as well as rayon in the rda and have no issues with any of them and can discern no difference in the quality of performance or taste. I personally don't believe the wicking itself is the OP's problem. Smaller diameter coil is the fix imo.
 

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I've used 3 different cottons as well as rayon in the rda and have no issues with any of them and can discern no difference in the quality of performance or taste. I personally don't believe the wicking itself is the OP's problem. Smaller diameter coil is the fix imo.

Agree. I've tried dozens of wicking materials and none for me have been different in any noticeable way to the flavour they provide, like I say, that's just me. Where I do find the difference is in their wicking properties, ease of use, longevity and the period of time they take to break in. I pretty much use TFC, Kendo Gold and Team Vape exclusively these days.

What I do find though is that while I really rate the Recurve the flavour is not always great depending on the juice I'm using. I find that some are simply not suited to the highly condensed cap and airflow of attys like the Recurve and the Nudge 22. Just too intense, dialling down the wattage just drops the vape off too much, using a single wire coil helps but a different atty is my preferred solution seeing the coils I prefer to use work well with 90% of the juice I use. It's not down to a juice category either (e.g. desserts or fruits), it's just on a few juices from each type. Couple of the fruits I use taste way too sweet, couple of the dessert / bakery juices way too dry. It's for that reason that the Drop Solo has joined the Recurve in the no. 1 slot given that it has the ability to dial in extra airflow which has been the remedy for all those flavour problems. Had a feeling it would given that I have the original Drop that also fixed it, just too big and airy for me. The Drop Solo was thus the perfect fix for me.

I'd def agree on the max coil size of 3mm, I also use 2.5mm, and while I've used single wire coils in it with success I do prefer frame stapled aliens or fraliens, not so much claptons which I prefer in tanks. I make my own mostly (NiCr 80 or SS316 2*28 + 4*0.1 /0.3 flat wrapped 36-40) but for the first time I actually liked (as opposed to junked) the coils that Wotofo supplied enough to order a couple of tubes of them. As ever, YMMV :)
 
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Even after rebuilding it a few times, I can say, that the Recurve isn't my cup of tea.
Although I like the looks and the smoothness of the draw, flavorwise it just isn't up there with the likes of the Entheon (clone) or the Gokon for example.
The nonexistent juicewell is another bummer, because it's way too easy to overdrip/-squonk for my tastes. Granted, it doesn't leak, when it happens, but then it's nevertheless like drinking liquid through a straw.
 

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I tried nearly everything I have in my arsenal to get it to perform the way I like.
Seems the Recurve and I just don't match.

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Sadly black and silver is sold out nearly everywhere.
Airflow could be a bit smoother, although
it's not on the whistly side.
Aside from that it offers all that the Recurve advertises.
It's one of those few underhyped gems, that's worth every penny imo.

The Entheon is married with one of my squonkers. A bit more restricted draw, but wonderful flavor. For 8$ an absolute steal as well.
 

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The Dpro looks promising. Another one for my wishlist.:thumb:
I'm liking the dpro quite a bit with the solid 510. Wasn't a fan of any of the included dts but that's par for the course. It's a good warm dense vape. Dead easy to build but you do have to wipe out the inside of the cap occasionally. AF hits my sweet spot nicely as well.
 
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