IBtanked or Ehpro Kafun 3.1? Decisions Decisions...

[Keeferes]

I'm sure one day, I will be able to get some hands on time with a reo. For right now, it's just not on my radar for purchase.

Your right about the 33.3. It does get annoying at times. I can notice it in my kanger heads. Lovely post insulator grommet design there. Lol. That's one reason of looking to step to something else. Not as pronounced in a dual coil clearo like my nautilus, or an iClear 30 S. That's why I was leaning to the kayfun. I couldn't agree more about the simplicity of a carto though. Cost doesn't matter to me for replacing them.

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[serenity21899]

I have both, and I prefer my IBTanks because they are less fussy to me. At the price, get both and see what you prefer.

Since it was already suggested, the Sophia is a rebuildable tank atomizer that will fit in an IBTanked 22mm XL carto tank. That might be an item for later. It is a bit more complicated than the Kayfun because you have non-resistance and resistance wire to deal with. That is actually my favorite right now.

 

[Keeferes]

I have both, and I prefer my IBTanks because they are less fussy to me. At the price, get both and see what you prefer.

Since it was already suggested, the Sophia is a rebuildable tank atomizer that will fit in an IBTanked 22mm XL carto tank. That might be an item for later. It is a bit more complicated than the Kayfun because you have non-resistance and resistance wire to deal with. That is actually my favorite right now.

I put it in the que for research, but I don't feel I'm ready or r-nr just yet.

I will end up with both IBtanked and Kayfun, just deciding which one first. I set my budget at a strict 50$ for March. Bike weeks coming, so saving for that.

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[Jarbs]

I put it in the que for research, but I don't feel I'm ready or r-nr just yet.

I will end up with both IBtanked and Kayfun, just deciding which one first. I set my budget at a strict 50$ for March. Bike weeks coming, so saving for that.

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Being fiscally responsible is not a part of vaping, sir.

 

[beckdg]

if you rebuild your protanks and hate that grommet, you can look into some silicone tubing for real cheap. see if that helps any. if not, really nothing lost. i was able to learn to keep the grommets from burning most of the time, but sometimes that insulator would block off air flow. i found i was able to avoid that with the silicone tubing there. may work for you, may not. other folks seemed to have used it because the taste isn't as pronounced as the rubber when it burns. here's the thread that got me interested... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/490677-possible-stinky-grommet-replacement.html

understand. reo and provari put me off for a while, too. really only wanted the provari for the clumsy wife. surprised she hasn't run the mvp over with the truck yet. turns out, it's a pretty nice mod and doesn't drive me nuts with the carto tanks. who knew... (don't have to answer that, lol)

yeah, my dad's still on his first carto in his tank. 3 long haul trips in the big rig and a month later, it's still going strong. price of cartos is nothing compared to cigs. cotton may be cheaper, but carto price is far from a deal breaker.

you'll enjoy the kayfun. i have the "black edition" from ebay and love it. it gives new life to my beloved vamo when i revisit it. probably would reside elsewhere, except i put the wrong juice in it to visit more often. until that tank's spent, that's where she'll be.

cheers, keferes. here's one on me.

 

[rith]

since your vamo, SVD and VTR are all 33 Hz PWM (i'm pretty sure), i'd suggest going with the kayfun. you can build it with thicker wire that resists the instant temperature change that produces the rattle snake effect. it was my carto tanks that (while performance and ease of use was out of this world) made me sick of my beloved vamo. i just couldn't take the constant pulsating hiss and the fact my tank tasted better on my wifes MVP 2.

though, i do love my ibtanked tanks. i have something like 9 of them. they're fantastic, functional works of simplicity in engineering and stand for untainted quality and performance.

forget the elitist snobism. don't let yourself lose out on a fantastic vaping experience. don't worry about safety too much. it's something that worried me profoundly considering my prior experience with lipo batteries through my RC hobby. dripping is a fantastic experience. it's completely able to be tailored to your preference. bottom feeding just makes dripping all day in any setting a reality that's not more effort than it's worth. when your battery is getting low, your vape changes and you'll likely just want a fresh cell. i recently made myself a battery checker and it turns out i swap my batteries on the reo at around 3.9 volts. that's just by taste and performance.

from how you describe yourself, you're a perfect candidate for a reo. i'm not saying GO GET ONE NOW - YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT - UR A NOOOOOBBBBB!!!! i'm saying don't let a bunch of tight wads ruin it for you by taking away something i think you'll greatly enjoy.

pace yourself. enjoy new gear and trying new things. get what tickles your fancy and what does it for you. i'll save you a seat at the table. but don't expect any beer to be waiting if you take too long. i'm patient, but i'm going to need something to drink from time to time and reserves are getting low.

I said noob because don't say you hate a product unless you tryed it. He was a punk for that. Ived used provari and reo and they are both very nice. Reo is a great dripper on the go so I suggested that. My post gets deleted but when he say he hates reo it doesn't ok that's op


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[Keeferes]

Being fiscally responsible is not a part of vaping, sir.

This I am very aware of. Lol. That's why I had to set my budget. Too many new things too fast.

if you rebuild your protanks and hate that grommet, you can look into some silicone tubing for real cheap. see if that helps any. if not, really nothing lost. i was able to learn to keep the grommets from burning most of the time, but sometimes that insulator would block off air flow. i found i was able to avoid that with the silicone tubing there. may work for you, may not. other folks seemed to have used it because the taste isn't as pronounced as the rubber when it burns. here's the thread that got me interested... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/clearomizers/490677-possible-stinky-grommet-replacement.html

understand. reo and provari put me off for a while, too. really only wanted the provari for the clumsy wife. surprised she hasn't run the mvp over with the truck yet. turns out, it's a pretty nice mod and doesn't drive me nuts with the carto tanks. who knew... (don't have to answer that, lol)

yeah, my dad's still on his first carto in his tank. 3 long haul trips in the big rig and a month later, it's still going strong. price of cartos is nothing compared to cigs. cotton may be cheaper, but carto price is far from a deal breaker.

you'll enjoy the kayfun. i have the "black edition" from ebay and love it. it gives new life to my beloved vamo when i revisit it. probably would reside elsewhere, except i put the wrong juice in it to visit more often. until that tank's spent, that's where she'll be.

cheers, keferes. here's one on me.

I rebuild the newer style with the silicone rather then the rubber. It is better, but still notice it from time to time. I would try either, reo or Provari, but it just drives me nuts they always jump in every thread recommending it. I even specifically said I wanted nothing to do with a mech at this point. I know they do have vv reo's, but again, I won't be using my own cash to support them.

I said noob because don't say you hate a product unless you tryed it. He was a punk for that. Ived used provari and reo and they are both very nice. Reo is a great dripper on the go so I suggested that. My post gets deleted but when he say he hates reo it doesn't ok that's op

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I am entitled to dislike anything I so choose. Now I am a "punk" for having an opinion different from yours? Seems you only proved my hypothesis on general fanboys for the product. Additionally, I didn't ask for other suggestions, aside from the two TOPPERS mentioned in the title. REO IS NOT EVEN A TOPPER. Again, thanks for stopping by. As always, your input is such a pleasure to read. Have a great morning.



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[Steamer861]

+1 for the KFL+ they have a big tank excellent flavour and vapour production and if your changing juice flavours a simple new cotton wick and your good to go I have never tried a carto so can't say any thing for them I started with clearos moved up to Kayfuns and I,m happy with them

 

[Rossum]

I've got a small collection of various sized IBTs here. The tanks are great, but I find cartos themselves are as hit or miss as stock clearo heads. Since I got decent at building micro-coils and wicking them with cotton, my IBTs are have fallen into disuse. The three toppers that I actually use every day now are: A Russian 91%, an Aerotank, and a PT2 Mini. They'll run longer, but I've decided that if I simply re-wick them once a week, they're always good to go.

 

[Keeferes]

I've got a small collection of various sized IBTs here. The tanks are great, but I find cartos themselves are as hit or miss as stock clearo heads. Since I got decent at building micro-coils and wicking them with cotton, my IBTs are have fallen into disuse. The three toppers that I actually use every day now are: A Russian 91%, an Aerotank, and a PT2 Mini. They'll run longer, but I've decided that if I simply re-wick them once a week, they're always good to go.

Been looking at the Russian too. The Ehpro Kayfun clone seems hard to get reasonable. Tobeco's, Rockets, and Hcigar's are all over the place. Is there much of a difference between the Russian and the Kayfun? I'm not looking for mini anything. A full size is whats on the radar for the moment.

 

[Rossum]

All of those, including the "Russians" are blatant copies of SvoeMesto's Kayfun design. None of what you're looking at is an original, so please don't call 'em that. You wouldn't call a metric cruiser a "Harley" would you?

I think the biggest difference between the Russians and the Kayfun clones is the finish; the Russians have a media-blasted matte finish while the Kayfun clones tend to be a brighter finish, somewhere between brushed and polished. The genuine Russians have a reputation for being quality pieces (despite being made in China) but of course there are clones of them too. I bought the R91 primarily because I couldn't find a genuine KFL+ anywhere and I refuse to have a forgery; that would be like buying a metric cruiser with Harley badges on it.

 

[Keeferes]

All of those, including the "Russians" are blatant copies of SvoeMesto's Kayfun design. None of what you're looking at is an original, so please don't call 'em that. You wouldn't call a metric cruiser a "Harley" would you?

I think the biggest difference between the Russians and the Kayfun clones is the finish; the Russians have a media-blasted matte finish while the Kayfun clones tend to be a brighter finish, somewhere between brushed and polished. The genuine Russians have a reputation for being quality pieces (despite being made in China) but of course there are clones of them too. I bought the R91 primarily because I couldn't find a genuine KFL+ anywhere and I refuse to have a forgery; that would be like buying a metric cruiser with Harley badges on it.

I agree completely about being clones. I wasn't calling any of it an original. Sorry if that was implied. I am looking at all clones. I can't justify the expense right now, without trying hands on time, for the style of topper. If these seems to work out for me, I would definitely look for an original. I know, no clones will perform at the level of an original, but if I use a clone for a while, I can personally find it's faults, and make a better decision comparing to an original.

The Harley reference though... Did you know better then 80% of any Harley, post 1985, is manufactured in Malaysia, China, Taiwan, and Mexico? They are simply assembled here. Much like the Spire Mod. That's a debate for another thread though.

 

[beckdg]

I rebuild the newer style with the silicone rather then the rubber. It is better, but still notice it from time to time. I would try either, reo or Provari, but it just drives me nuts they always jump in every thread recommending it. I even specifically said I wanted nothing to do with a mech at this point. I know they do have vv reo's, but again, I won't be using my own cash to support them.

that's right, you said you had the aero base. you should be fine with air flow then. i had to look back again to confirm you'd mentioned that. doh!

i hear you, man. just keep in mind, it's not the fanboi base you're supporting. it's your habit and the vendor. the vendors for both products actually seem to be decent folks. REOsmods is actually a one man operation as far as i can tell for example. the guy's name is rob and he goes by redeyedancer on the forums. see how he conducts himself if that's a big part of where you spend your money. it was for me. i mean, what you do is up to you. i'd hate for you to have an opportunity to enjoy your vape that much more and miss out due to fanatics.

i'll tell you what. if you're not interested in anything mech or the "P" word, when you get your ibtanked (OCD is a decent guy on the forum, too)... if you get annoyed by the rattlesnake... the itaste MVP is a fantastic product for the money and will pair up extremely well with carto tanks. it puts out a smooth output. i'm not one for the extra gimmicks, but for the purpose of vaping at typical outputs (which is ideal for carto tanks anyway), it does what it does very well and one charge lasts an incredibly long time. it fits in the hand nicely, too.

 

[Rossum]

I agree completely about being clones. I wasn't calling any of it an original. Sorry if that was implied. I am looking at all clones. I can't justify the expense right now, without trying hands on time, for the style of topper.

Understood. Somehow the your question: "Is there much of a difference between the Russian and the Kayfun?" set me off. I'm touchy about clones (and even worse, forgeries) because I've been dealing with it in my own (not vape-related) business for more than a decade. Not a day goes by that somebody doesn't contact us for some kind of assistance and it turns out that they're using a clone of our product.

I know, no clones will perform at the level of an original

That's not necessarily true. Take the Russian 91%; it was clearly a KFL clone, but with improvements (adjustable airflow). SvoeMesto countered with the KFL+ which then also included adjustable airflow. Still, I believe that those of us who can afford it owe it to the businesses that came up really good innovative designs to buy originals, 'cause if we don't, they will stop innovating.

The Harley reference though... Did you know better then 80% of any Harley, post 1985, is manufactured in Malaysia, China, Taiwan, and Mexico?

Yes, I'm quite familiar with out-sourced parts. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but there's some stuff you just can't get made in the first world anymore, even if you don't care what it costs. Harley does it to try to remain somewhat cost-competitive with the Japanese brands (who of course also have parts made in those places).